To Believe or Not To Believe? (SHOW RESPECT, OR RISK A BAN) - Part 2

[ShadowBoxer]

It almost sounds like we've moved on from antiquated morals and outdated beliefs!

Your comment proves my point. Christians that believe differently that society, instantly gets mocked, labeled, vilified, by someone trying to insult their intelligence and beliefs. But if I were to say God isn't real, I am all about evolution, sleeping with multiple people Is awesome and marriage isnt needed, knowing getting drunk every day/weekend is also cool. Most would be fine with it because that's what society says is okay. But I will say that it takes courage to take a stand for whatever your beliefs are religious or not. Though I will say religious people have it harder simply because how the world is now.

 

[Greens]

But if I were to say God isn't real

You would still meet opposition. Remember, most people in the US still believe in God or some other higher power.

I am all about evolution

True, this is commonly accepted, although some polls have pointed out that a shocking number of Americans still deny evolution.

sleeping with multiple people Is awesome

I'm not so sure about this. If you had said "sleeping with multiple people is okay", maybe, but sleeping with a lot of people "just because" is still frowned upon in many circles.

and marriage isnt needed

Again, this is an unpopular opinion in many circles.

knowing getting drunk every day/weekend is also cool.

If you're talking about a college crowd, sure. Adults who get drunk every weekend are seen as losers.

America is more conservative than you think.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Manny Pacquiao talks about what it means to be a REAL Christian and how he encountered God. Awesome stuff and I am rooting for him in the fight with Floyd this weekend. Nothing against Floyd BTW ha.


http://youtu.be/BtwYghq5rMg


http://youtu.be/7Vmzwu5XZuQ

 

[Human Torch]

Yes. It is almost invalidating all the other religions which have the same basis of "evidence" for believing. What should make a Christian faith any more of an absolute truth than a Muslim or Buddhist for example? Insanity.

The Bible,pretty much speaks for itself in terms of it's veracity.

Judaism doesn't except Jesus as the Messiah,despite the numerous evidences of His fulfillment of prophecy. When you compile the vast preponderance of evidence of Jesus fulfillment of Messianic prophecy,there is no doubt that He was the only One who could have been the Messiah.

In Islam they don't adhere to the Trinity,which is clearly taught by Jesus in the Bible. They furthermore re-wrote the scripture to better adhere to the Muslim world view,such as Christ's Atonement. They deny Christ's death on the cross,since in their view His death by crucifixion would be seen as "defeat". When in reality, quite the opposite is true.

 

[Human Torch]

Manny Pacquiao Talks about what it means to be a REAL Christian and how he encountered God. Awesome stuff and I am rooting for him in the fight with Floyd this weekend. Nothing against Floyd BTW ha.


http://youtu.be/BtwYghq5rMg


http://youtu.be/7Vmzwu5XZuQ

Wow. That's great! I've always been a fan of Manny. He always seemed like a class guy.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Not all Christian faiths believe in the trinity.

 

[Human Torch]

Not all Christian faiths believe in the trinity.

Any "Christians" that deny a fundamental tenant of the faith like the Trinity,have no business calling themselves Christians.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Wow. That's great! I've always been a fan of Manny. He always seemed like a class guy.

Yea same here. The fight between him and Floyd suppose to be epic.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Also some people that claim to be christians only have religion and not a real relationship with God. Going to church, simply acknowledging God exist, owning a bible, knowing the words to praise and worship song's doesn't grant you salvation. Without that relationship all you have is religion. It's about having a personal relationship with Christ. You can't be lukewarm for God. Either you believe God exist and Jesus died for your sins or you don't. Simple as that.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Quick question to all the Christians out there, what do you make of dinosaurs?
This is not a trick question, bare that in mind.
My question is because i recently found an article that said

Conspiracy theorist and former paleontology student Michael Forsell caused a storm yesterday (2010) when, during a Radio interview with leading paleontologist Jack Horner, he called in and blasted Horner for being a total fraud, fabricating evidence and perpetuating the myth of dinosaurs.
(...)
Dinosaurs never existed, the whole shebang is a freak show, they just grab a couple of old bones and form them into their latest Frankenstein's monster like exhibit. If dinosaurs existed they would be mentioned in the Bible.

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/1...sted-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Quick question to all the Christians out there, what do you make of dinosaurs?
This is not a trick question, bare that in mind.
My question is because i recently found an article that said



http://loveforlife.com.au/content/1...sted-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

I started a discussion on this in the thread not too long ago. If I can find it on search will post for you.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I started a discussion on this in the thread not too long ago. If I can find it on search will post for you.

I didn't knew that...thanks in advance.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=496321&page=10

Some Christians state that the mention of monsters in the bible was to describe dinosaurs. Many things get stretched to fit a narrative in the face of logic

 

[Black Narcissus]

Your comment proves my point. Christians that believe differently that society, instantly gets mocked, labeled, vilified, by someone trying to insult their intelligence and beliefs. But if I were to say God isn't real, I am all about evolution, sleeping with multiple people Is awesome and marriage isnt needed, knowing getting drunk every day/weekend is also cool. Most would be fine with it because that's what society says is okay. But I will say that it takes courage to take a stand for whatever your beliefs are religious or not. Though I will say religious people have it harder simply because how the world is now.

The world now is still very religious. When did the none believers take over? I wasn't apart of it. Most none religious folks are primarly vocal online because being a none believer is very much a taboo here in the US. Hell ( no pun intended), good luck trying to marry with a nice christian gal if you are a none believer.

 

[Calvin]

Last I checked atheists are still a tiny percentage of the populace. You just see a higher percentage online because people that have regular internet access tend to be more informed and less isolated which makes it easier to come to a more personal/logical conclusion about religion. Cultural isolation tends to breed more religion due to less exposure to modern ideas and worldly viewpoints.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=496321&page=10

Some Christians state that the mention of monsters in the bible was to describe dinosaurs. Many things get stretched to fit a narrative in the face of logic

Thanks once again.

I found a good post there that i would really like to ask the person that wrote it

Yes, if you have a real relationship with God. He does speak to you through prayer. It's hard to explain but it's pretty incredible. He can also speak through other people. For example, I was praying about a situation no one else knew I was going through, not even my parents or close family and friends. Then one day on day my pastor just stoped and while preaching and starting to talking about my situation and seemed to be talking to me personally in a church full of hundreds. He spoke life and I was amazed and knew that God was using him to talk to me directly. Again, I told no one about what I was dealing with. He said God told him someone needed to hear that and continued on. Those are moments are no illusion or just a random luck encounter as the pastors sermon was on a totally different topic.

Explain one thing for me dude, how do you think it worked, how do you picture it in your head?
The church was full of people, it's a totally valid assumption that there was more people with problems there, it's a totally valid assumption that more people there prayed for guidance...but God just pointed to you and said "that guy, i want to help that guy, to hell with the rest, that guy is my homie"

What happened was you took the words from the pastor and projected into yourself, into your own problem.
It's like when people watch a movie and have an epiphany, like the movie was tailored to them.
It happens more than you realize.
There is nothing inherently wrong with thinking it was God's doing, as long as it helped you and you feel good about; what is really important is the effect it had on you, but...just be logical about it, God did not chose you to be the "guided one" in detriment of others.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

The world now is still very religious.

Exactly.
It falls into what i said a few posts ago about society's indoctrination.
Society is build upon religion, it's part of culture.

 

[spiderman2]

Manny Pacquiao talks about what it means to be a REAL Christian and how he encountered God. Awesome stuff and I am rooting for him in the fight with Floyd this weekend. Nothing against Floyd BTW ha.


http://youtu.be/BtwYghq5rMg


http://youtu.be/7Vmzwu5XZuQ

I didn't know that he was a Christian.

 

[spiderman2]

Quick question to all the Christians out there, what do you make of dinosaurs?
This is not a trick question, bare that in mind.
My question is because i recently found an article that said



http://loveforlife.com.au/content/1...sted-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

I don't like to read much and that is long lol but I don't think them not being in the bible is a big deal. I don't think we have to have ever animal in the bible.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

The world may still be religious but honestly not that many people aren't actually living a life that reflects that. And considering how the media reacts when some says that stand by the bible in terms of marriage then all sorts of labels and vilification come out about Christians. Like I said before, a lot of people that say their Christian are just practicing religion and nothing more. For some you wouldn't even know their a Christian because they never talk about it and live their live like a non believer would. Not I am not trying to bash or judge anyone because I don't know their hearts, but that's what it seems like to me. Some just simply acknowledge God exist and then do whatever they want during the week. Maybe go to church on Sunday and never think about God again until the next time they might go to church. But this my personal thoughts on the matter. There are many people who are Christian who genuinely love God, have a relationship with him and stand firm in what they believe.

 

[Human Torch]

I think most Christians generally accept the possibility of Dinosaurs. Only that they must've existed at the same time as man.

I've always been a bit dubious on the whole thing though. I mean,these bones don't come with an instruction manual. You could think you're recreating something and still be way off. Look at the brontosaurus for example.

Also,the word "Dinosaur" would obviously not be in the bible. But some suggest the terms "Behemoth" and "Leviathan" which are found in the Bible,may be references to a type of Dinosaur.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

The idea that God would create dinosaurs, then cause an extinction level event... then create humans after? Seems silly.

 

[Human Torch]

That's why I said Man must've existed at the same time as the dinosaur.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

That's why I said Man must've existed at the same time as the dinosaur.

Or an intervening God doesn't exist. If any type of man existed it was likely a more primitive form than modern man, thus further proving evolution. The oldest fossil of a dinosaur is like 245 million years old. The oldest fossil of a man within modern human range is about 160,000 years old. The primitive human form that came before this that you would say may have co-existed with dinosaurs was not like that of today's human form.

 

[Human Torch]

The fact that human fossils don't date as far back as dinosaur fossils isn't compelling proof. There are possible reasons for this. One of which could've been the Flood described in Genesis.