Tom Welling as Superman

[LL2K2]

Singer's abortion of a franchise is dead. We've had countless indicators of that. From his writers getting booted...

Wrong. They left on their own free will to pursue other projects. Here's a story from Variety, October 2007 (please read carefully):

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974449.html?categoryId=13&cs=1

Every current succesful superhero franchise has birthed or at least started production on a sequel within a 2 year time span.

When did the first Hellboy come out?

2004. And unlike Superman, Hellboy WAS a flop.

There's no writers, no script, no greenlight, not even any believable rumors for a Singerman sequel. Let's all move on.

Please...that term is so 2006.

And what about the Wrath of Khan approach? That's the last we've heard from Singer; since then, he's still doing post-production for Valkyrie.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

He is doing post production on Valkyrie while his writers are writing Man of Steel and to add to that the casting call thing was real so the sequel is moving forward. The real question is even though Singer is getting a sequel will he get a third movie.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

As for a Superman movie based off of SV it would not work. It may have worked during season 4 & 5 but now it wouldn't and as said before it would just split the fan base even more. Because there is just as many people who do not like SV and would not want to see it be made into a movie as there are people who did not care for SR. If the WB was not going to do a sequel their best bet would be to start fresh away from SV and Donner/Singers Superman.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Wrong. They left on their own free will to pursue other projects. Here's a story from Variety, October 2007 (please read carefully):

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974449.html?categoryId=13&cs=1

Sure they did. And about a month before that at the Saturn Awards, and to that guy on BlueTights in D.C. they all stated they had begun working on the sequel. Guess those other projects must've slipped their minds then, huh?

2004. And unlike Superman, Hellboy WAS a flop.

Hellboy had an ROI of about 30x that of Singer's mess

Please...that term is so 2006.

I guess it expired along with Superman's relevancy as a big screen movie franchise

And what about the Wrath of Khan approach? That's the last we've heard from Singer; since then, he's still doing post-production for Valkyrie.

Another movie he's wasted a ton of time and money on. Singer's development deal for a sequel has him in limbo as WB looks to head in another direction. If the numerous signs of that dont make it crystal clear by now, you're missing the painfully obvious.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

He is doing post production on Valkyrie while his writers are writing Man of Steel and to add to that the casting call thing was real so the sequel is moving forward. The real question is even though Singer is getting a sequel will he get a third movie.

LOL I'm sure they've begun casting extras on an unwritten film on Craigslist. This thread wreaks from desperation.

 

[RickO'Connell]

Yea.. It's amazing to me when I see so many SMV fans calling G&M bad writers who have no idea they wrote Spider-Man 2.

Um I knew that & they did NOT WRITE THE ENTIRE MOVIE if you must know & in my opinion just because they had a part withone good superhero movie does not mean that everything else that they do will be good

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yea.. It's amazing to me when I see so many SMV fans calling G&M bad writers who have no idea they wrote Spider-Man 2.

You know they didn't write all of Spider-Man 2 right? They did a portion of the movie.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

LOL I'm sure they've begun casting extras on an unwritten film on Craigslist. This thread wreaks from desperation.

Casting for Returns was done the same way might I remind you.

 

[RickO'Connell]

You know they didn't write all of Spider-Man 2 right? They did a portion of the movie.

Shhhhhhhhhhh don't break their hearts

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

And really all they did was rewrites

 

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

superhero pinning over a girl he could have if he would just be honest with her, what a stretch it must of been for them t:t:

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Casting for Returns was done the same way might I remind you.

They cast the extras before the film was greenlit much less written? Singer's production was more half-assed than I thought

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

They cast the extras before the film was greenlit much less written? Singer's production was more half-assed than I thought

No they used Craigslist or a site much like it for casting extras the last time and from what I understand this is a script being written.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

superhero pinning over a girl he could have if he would just be honest with her, what a stretch it must of been for them t:t:

wait havens to thought you are not implying that they are writing Smallville as if he were Spider-Man are you.

 

[Webhead2006]

actually its been on lots of sites reported MOS doesnt have any writers attached to it and no one has been hired to write the film. Yes singer has been working on ideas but he has no writers, there is no script and it is in no way ready to be happening and doesnt have a green light from WB. And really we have no clue what wb wants to do will they want to continue with singer, will they do a reboot, its a waiting game to see what happens. Wb just doesnt know what to do with their dc propertities and hopefully with the summit talks going on they can finally get a group of the right people in charge and behind films so they can actually happen. But i dont really want to get in this whole debate again like i was with people in the dc comics films and the jla boards.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

No they used Craigslist or a site much like it for casting extras the last time and from what I understand this is a script being written.

OK you're completely missing the point. Criaglist isnt the big issue, although it does seem somewhat odd. The big thing is that casting extras is one of the very last things they do in pre-production. Singerman II: Electric Stalker Tool has no script, no budget, no green-light, no location scouting, and no sets have been built (other than any carry over from the 1st one) why on Earth would they have a casting call out for extras at this point???

 

[Webhead2006]

yea that is the point casting extras is something that is done at the very end of pre production and shortly before or during filming of a film. And like i and others have pointed out there is no writers signed onboard, no script, no budget, no green light, etc..... and no official announcement from WB stating the film is a go and is starting filming soon. The thing is they have no clue what they want to do and if they even want to continue with singer after he gave them a less then steller film they were hoping for a bigger hit. Then we have the whole thing with wb not knowing what to do/how to handle the dc characters besides batman(which we were very luckly there and when you look at it how did bb/tdk ever happen???). Then right now with wb/dc doing there summit talks on what they want to do with their characters and how to best use them untill that is all settled we are likely not going to hear any news about any more developments for films or to move films like jla, green lantern, flash, ww, green arrow out of of developmental hell and actually filming and in theaters.

 

[LL2K2]

Sure they did. And about a month before that at the Saturn Awards, and to that guy on BlueTights in D.C. they all stated they had begun working on the sequel. Guess those other projects must've slipped their minds then, huh?

Things happen. *cough* writer's strike *cough* Lawsuit *cough* *hack* problems with Valkyrie *cough*

Hellboy had an ROI of about 30x that of Singer's mess

Depends on which figures you use. Hellboy's ROI was -9.7%.

SR's ROI based on BOM's $270M budget quote was -25.9%.

SR's ROI based on the official WB-released budget of $209M was -4.3%.

I guess it expired along with Superman's relevancy as a big screen movie franchise

In your opinion. In case you forgot, despite the supposedly tepid box office from SR, the Superman movie franchise is still a three-quarters-of-a-billion-dollar money maker. Add in L&C, Smallville, and the older live-action and animated series...enough said.

Another movie he's wasted a ton of time and money on. Singer's development deal for a sequel has him in limbo as WB looks to head in another direction. If the numerous signs of that dont make it crystal clear by now, you're missing the painfully obvious.

He did the same thing with SR.

And until you can come up with something that convinces me there will not be a sequel, we're done.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Things happen. *cough* writer's strike *cough* Lawsuit *cough* *hack* problems with Valkyrie *cough*

Take a lozenge..All lame excuses as the writers strike prevents them from writing any movie. The lawsuit if anything would expedite the sequel process since the rights were to revert in a few years. As for Valkyrie, that has nothing to do with Harris & Dougherty or them penning a script for another Superman film.

Depends on which figures you use. Hellboy's ROI was -9.7%.

SR's ROI based on BOM's $270M budget quote was -25.9%.

SR's ROI based on the official WB-released budget of $209M was -4.3%.

Nice try but ROI is calculated using more than just production cost and box office receipts. You've got to take into account the % of actual gross revenue the studio actually receives. And then take into account all of the marketing and ancillary costs into account and then add in the additional revenue streams like cable, video, merchandising, etc. SR gets killed even further because it's ancillaries and marketing were so damn high. The 2006 and 2007 annual reports for WB shareholders, of which I am one, do not paint a pretty picture for the film and hme video divisions.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aviNvS7tmRoQ&refer=home

In your opinion. In case you forgot, despite the supposedly tepid box office from SR, the Superman movie franchise is still a three-quarters-of-a-billion-dollar money maker. Add in L&C, Smallville, and the older live-action and animated series...enough said.

History is history. The character is still a lucrative one and has always been. But you've got one scared studio at the moment who has no idea what to do with the property now, whereas had Singer not completely screwed the pooch, next summer we'd be feeling like the Bat fans will feel tomorrow.

He did the same thing with SR.

And until you can come up with something that convinces me there will not be a sequel, we're done.

like my grandfather always said, some people cant see the train until it hits them....

 

[AgentPat]

It's.... it's... my GOD, it's like I never left.

Cya'll in two months...

 

[triplet]

*sigh*

 

[RickO'Connell]

It's.... it's... my GOD, it's like I never left.

Cya'll in two months...

I blame the CW. Since we dont have any new stuff to talk about old stuff is back

 

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

wait havens to thought you are not implying that they are writing Smallville as if he were Spider-Man are you.

who me ........... now why would i do that

 

[MAN O STEEL]

 

[Prison Mike]

^ I like it!