Tom Welling as Superman

[avidreader]

I would be so excited to see Tom play Superman In JLA. I can't think of anyone else I'd rather see in this role. :heart:

At the same time, I really want to see him do different things. Getting typecast is a valid consideration. Maybe if they offered him an option to also do a couple of other non-Superman related movies it would sweeten the deal. I think that once the mainstream movie-going public discovers him he will be very successful. He has everything it takes, especially that unique "it" factor that is so hard to describe but when you have it, you just have it. When he is on screen its hard to take your eyes off him. He just draws you in.

I just wish we would hear something definite.

I couldnt have said it better myself Twistim.

Ya know, the other thing to consider is, that originally when this rumour first started making the rounds it was thought that the movie was going to be shot in Vancouver, but I just dont see how its physically possible for Tom to keep working on Smallville up until April, and start shooting a movie in Australia that begins in February. It really could all be a matter of logistics.

 

[Kalleo]

Me for one I am ready to get off this roller coaster of Tom playing Superman. I am so tired of getting my hopes up for two seconds later someone bringing me down. I mean I would love to just hear the truth behind this. Like Tom say I am flattered but never had any intention whatsoever of playing Superman. Or have the studio fess up for screwing Tom out of the role. Me I just may stop watching Smallville over this and at this point have no desire to see JLA. I feel like a cat toy right now. How about a little truth WB give the fans a break and let us in the know. With the invention of Al Gores internet the days of fans just waiting around till a movie hits the theater is over we want to know now the info, and one way or another we will know. So wake up WB and clue us in.

 

[triplet]

Okay,

So I have been away most of the weekend, whats the newest info on this crazy situation, seems IESB isnt posting S**** on it and it seems Robert over there went into hiding or something. Oh the pics of welling a few pages back how come no one went to ask him about the movie if they were taken by someone here?

Those weren't taken by anyone here, they were from earlier in the year, like May something, and were paparazzi images...

I couldnt have said it better myself Twistim.

Ya know, the other thing to consider is, that originally when this rumour first started making the rounds it was thought that the movie was going to be shot in Vancouver, but I just dont see how its physically possible for Tom to keep working on Smallville up until April, and start shooting a movie in Australia that begins in February. It really could all be a matter of logistics.

Well, they could still work it out if they film all the non-Superman stuff before Tom goes down, they could push all his stuff toward the end of the shoot.

It might be tricky, but probably not impossible to do.

I guess we'll see...

Me for one I am ready to get off this roller coaster of Tom playing Superman. I am so tired of getting my hopes up for two seconds later someone bringing me down. I mean I would love to just hear the truth behind this. Like Tom say I am flattered but never had any intention whatsoever of playing Superman. Or have the studio fess up for screwing Tom out of the role. Me I just may stop watching Smallville over this and at this point have no desire to see JLA. I feel like a cat toy right now. How about a little truth WB give the fans a break and let us in the know. With the invention of Al Gores internet the days of fans just waiting around till a movie hits the theater is over we want to know now the info, and one way or another we will know. So wake up WB and clue us in.

Don't stop watching Smallville.

They're not playing with us on purpose, I'm sure there's some reason there hasn't been news.

We'll learn what's going on eventually, even if we never learn the details.

 

[COMPO]

maybe, Tom is conflicted on whether to do the role and they're waiting for him.

 

[Kalleo]

I wonder if he knows how many fans he has out there that want to see him in the suit? I wonder if he knows how many kids look up to him already seeing him as Superman? My two kids do and they can not wait till thursdays roll around to see him on Smallville. I mean it just kills me that WB cant see what a win all around it would be to have Tom as Superman.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

This girl that tested for Wonder Woman just throws the argument out the window that Tom "was" left out because of age and Miller wants weathered heroes that seen so many battles. Please.

You know what is my opinion on this ? I think there are so many people worldwide wishing for this to happen that sooner or later it WILL happen. In some shape or form. Just take Pierce Brosnan for example and how destiny came into play.
His wife was a Bond girl in 007 - For Your Eyes Only with Roger Moore. While visiting his wife on the set, the producers namely Cubby Broccolli took notice of Pierce (who already wished he could be James Bond someday) and thought that he could be a good sucessor to Moore.
After Roger left the franchise, they came to Pierce to do 007- The Living Daylights, Pierce wanted to do the movie but was stuck because of his contract to the tv show Remington Steele (sounds familiar ?), so Timothy Dalton took the role.
He was fine but never really made the character his own like Roger or Sean did, so after his second Bond was considered a disapointment, the franchise went into hiatus, until 8 years after first being asked to give his take on 007, Pierce Brosnan finally got the role he was born to play (and that his wife so wanted him to have - before she died of cancer she told him to go after the role and get it) and the rest is history.
While 007 - Casino Royale is the biggest box-office hit for a Bond movie ever, Pierce Brosnan's Bond movies are still the highest grossing of the franchise.
That's why I say, it may take years but Tom Welling and us won't be denied. It may be a theatrical Superman, JLA movie, or a tv or direct to dvd movie but it will happen.
Let them make the same mistake twice, they will again pay dearly for it and will have to come to their senses, and after a year or two Tom won't be the property of Gough, Millar and CW and there won't be any more escuses.
I still pray that Warner will learn from their mistake or take a lesson from this Pierce Brosnan story...

 

[Kalleo]

What gets me is there are so many posting they are in the know about who is being considered and cast for this and that role. Well they should let us know how to contact them and that way we could persuade them that Tom is our Superman and cast him for the role.

 

[RakuMon]

This girl that tested for Wonder Woman just throws the argument out the window that Tom "was" left out because of age and Miller wants weathered heroes that seen so many battles. Please.

You know what is my opinion on this ? I think there are so many people worldwide wishing for this to happen that sooner or later it WILL happen. In some shape or form. Just take Pierce Brosnan for example and how destiny came into play.
His wife was a Bond girl in 007 - For Your Eyes Only with Roger Moore. While visiting his wife on the set, the producers namely Cubby Broccolli took notice of Pierce (who already wished he could be James Bond someday) and thought that he could be a good sucessor to Moore.
After Roger left the franchise, they came to Pierce to do 007- The Living Daylights, Pierce wanted to do the movie but was stuck because of his contract to the tv show Remington Steele (sounds familiar ?), so Timothy Dalton took the role.
He was fine but never really made the character his own like Roger or Sean did, so after his second Bond was considered a disapointment, the franchise went into hiatus, until 8 years after first being asked to give his take on 007, Pierce Brosnan finally got the role he was born to play (and that his wife so wanted him to have - before she died of cancer she told him to go after the role and get it) and the rest is history.
While 007 - Casino Royale is the biggest box-office hit for a Bond movie ever, Pierce Brosnan's Bond movies are still the highest grossing of the franchise.
That's why I say, it may take years but Tom Welling and us won't be denied. It may be a theatrical Superman, JLA movie, or a tv or direct to dvd movie but it will happen.
Let them make the same mistake twice, they will again pay dearly for it and will have to come to their senses, and after a year or two Tom won't be the property of Gough, Millar and CW and there won't be any more escuses.
I still pray that Warner will learn from their mistake or take a lesson from this Pierce Brosnan story...

That's a nice analogy, but an awfully optimistic one. I feel that if WB once again passes on Tom Welling as Superman, then that ship has sailed. I doubt they'd go to the well a third time. And even if they did, I wouldn't blame Welling for turning them down that third time.

You see, unlike the Pierce Brosnan as 007 situation, I don't think Welling is desperate to play Superman' unlike, say, another actor who's tackled the role. If a movie role came his way, I'm sure he'd be up for it, but after getting dicked around by the studio twice (allegedly) I can't see him setting himself up again like that. If the features department doesn't want him as Superman, there's nothing he can do about that. It's becoming increasingly clearer that his seven (or eight) years on Smallville will be his only contribution to the live action legacy of Superman.

 

[Kalleo]

I would just like to know how we as a whole (Tom Welling for Superman) can get WB and Miller to wake up and cast Tom as Superman. I mean there has to be something we can do? Once again I bring up the Jericho guys that did a bang up job and got it back on the air. If enough of us ban together we can cause enough stir they have to take notice.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Smallville's production wraps up in mid April 2008 in Vancouver.

According to the casting call information about JL's filming; its 3-4 months ending in mid to late May 2008 in Australia.


It doesnt work out. Theres no way.

Though I dont believe scheduling was the only reason Welling wasnt selected to be Superman.

It's done.

 

[triplet]

I would just like to know how we as a whole (Tom Welling for Superman) can get WB and Miller to wake up and cast Tom as Superman. I mean there has to be something we can do? Once again I bring up the Jericho guys that did a bang up job and got it back on the air. If enough of us ban together we can cause enough stir they have to take notice.

The thing is I'm not sure it'd be as easy to sway TPTB for JLA and Warner's to put a particular person into the role...

I don't think Jericho costs 150 million dollars, JLA's stated budget is far more serious amount of money than it costs for a season of episodes.

 

[Kalleo]

You know I have nothing against Routh at all but I see him the same way I see the guy who played Elvis Presley in that tv show about a young Elvis. Damn the guy looked just like Elvis but years later I will be damned if I can remember the guys name. I feel Routh got the the Superman job because he looked and sounded so much like Chris Reeve. Its a shame for Routh and a slap in the face of Chris at the same time. A shambe because Routh wasnt able to be his own Supes and a slap in the face because Chris was being knocked off by an imitation. I am not really wording myself properly here hopefully you guys understand what I am saying. I am not trying to slam Routh dont get me wrong I just think he was convenient to pick to continue the Donner Films. But for me Tom is who I see as my Superman even though he hasnt put the suit on he still has had more origin story for me that when or if he ever does put the suit on I will already know him and where he came from. Let me say this too no matter if they were to use the Smallville origin or not he has shown me the compassion, honor and dignity that Superman is.

 

[musclesforsupes]

I still have a few questions.


1. Seems Robert Sanchez has been gone for the past few days from IESB since the welling thing started last week.

2. This lady over at Countingdown.com still thinks we have a shot with welling.


One thing that will give me hope is I remember when Troy's director was attached for Bats Vs Supes and that fell apart hopefully this does the same.


Plus is it just me or does Tom live in like a cave and never comes out, cause no one on the street seems to never see him. Hell if I saw him, I would go up to him and say JLA yes or no? Ever put the suit on?

 

[Kalleo]

The thing is I'm not sure it'd be as easy to sway TPTB for JLA and Warner's to put a particular person into the role...

I don't think Jericho costs 150 million dollars, JLA's stated budget is far more serious amount of money than it costs for a season of episodes.

I feel if there is a will there is a way. I mean damn we already have a Kara on the show why couldnt Tom be out of a few epy's and say he is off with GA and gang fighting 33.1 facilities. I mean yeah the show is about him but he could be out Kara run the farm and set things up for a Supergirl spin off. I mean damn it could be the perfect gage to see if a Supergirl spin would work or not just watch the ratings. I mean damn if there is a will there is a way. I just think the cross promotion of Tom being in both would pay for itself in advertising.

 

[Justice Bringer]

You know I have nothing against Routh at all but I see him the same way I see the guy who played Elvis Presley in that tv show about a young Elvis. Damn the guy looked just like Elvis but years later I will be damned if I can remember the guys name. I feel Routh got the the Superman job because he looked and sounded so much like Chris Reeve. Its a shame for Routh and a slap in the face of Chris at the same time. A shambe because Routh wasnt able to be his own Supes and a slap in the face because Chris was being knocked off by an imitation. I am not really wording myself properly here hopefully you guys understand what I am saying. I am not trying to slam Routh dont get me wrong I just think he was convenient to pick to continue the Donner Films. But for me Tom is who I see as my Superman even though he hasnt put the suit on he still has had more origin story for me that when or if he ever does put the suit on I will already know him and where he came from. Let me say this too no matter if they were to use the Smallville origin or not he has shown me the compassion, honor and dignity that Superman is.

I dont agree on the dignity part for Welling; they've made a fool out of his character with the weak writing at often times but I can agree with some of the rest of that.

Though I really dont have a problem with him not being Superman and sticking with the young Clark character; it suits him more; it suits his acting style more.

The Superman in the JL script doesnt even come off like his Smallville character so it was probably for the best anyway.

 

[Justice Bringer]

2. This lady over at Countingdown.com still thinks we have a shot with welling.

I can answer that.

Shes full of crap.

That rumor she started about Tom being excluded since they wanted older, weathered heroes is pure lies.

The casting call asked for Males; 18-35 and females 20-32 for all the lead roles.

The thing she said about them deciding to use Mo-cap to make Welling appear older is nonsense too.

 

[COMPO]

I don't really think he's bothered about being Superman.

 

[Kalleo]

I dont agree on the dignity part for Welling; they've made a fool out of his character with the weak writing at often times but I can agree with some of the rest of that.

Though I really dont have a problem with him not being Superman and sticking with the young Clark character; it suits him more; it suits his acting style more.

The Superman in the JL script doesnt even come off like his Smallville character so it was probably for the best anyway.

I dont know Justice Bringer there has been plenty of episodes that brought tears to my eyes. Tom has done an amazing job as a young Clark Kent. Now this is coming from a guy who didnt watch the first two seasons of Smallville because I thought they were going to mess up my memories of the Chris Reeves movies. I never watched Lois and Clark for the same reason. But I caught the pilot episode on ABC family and have been hooked on it ever since. Me I like the way they updated the mythos to more modern times. It all works for me, and Toms acting has grown leaps and bounds. Not to mention he can do the physical stuff too.

 

[triplet]

Smallville's production wraps up in mid April 2008 in Vancouver.

According to the casting call information about JL's filming; its 3-4 months ending in mid to late May 2008 in Australia.


It doesnt work out. Theres no way.

Though I dont believe scheduling was the only reason Welling wasnt selected to be Superman.

It's done.

You're assuming a lot based on the stated production dates from casting notices.

You don't know it's done, no one does. That's the whole reason people are still takling about it.

Just because filming of Smallville ends a month before JLA filming doesn't mean that Tom is out, in and of itself.

This is an ensemble movie and superman's part may not take more than 4 or 6 weeks (mid-April to mid- or end of May) to film...

It still might be do-able. Don't let the schedule convince you it isn't possible.

A creative Production Manager could probably work it so that Superman's scenes are all filmed at the end of the shoot...

If they want Tom bad enough, they will make it work.

 

[Kalleo]

I don't really think he's bothered about being Superman.

Well see that to me would clear everything up. Does Tom want the job? If he does then thats one thing if he doesnt well thats another. Not to mention we dont even know if he was even up for the role. Just knowing those two things would say volumes.

1. Does he want the job?

2. Was he considered for the role?

 

[Justice Bringer]

You're assuming a lot based on the stated production dates from casting notices.

You don't know it's done, no one does. That's the whole reason people are still takling about it.

Just because filming of Smallville ends a month before JLA filming doesn't mean that Tom is out, in and of itself.

This is an ensemble movie and superman's part may not take more than 4 or 6 weeks (mid-April to mid- or end of May) to film...

It still might be do-able. Don't let the schedule convince you it isn't possible.

A creative Production Manager could probably work it so that Superman's scenes are all filmed at the end of the shoot....

Its an ensemble film but Superman gets the second most screentime in that script; next to Batman (whos essentially the main character).

Its unrealistic to believe they could film all of Superman's scenes and action sequences within such a short period...in a month; especially when most of his scenes involve the other characters.

And the period announced in the casting call is accurate. Fox studios in Australia is doing Wolverine before JLA and is booked to do another picture right after. Its tight scheduling.

If they want Tom bad enough, they will make it work

Clearly they don't. I'm starting to have doubts they ever did. Sanchez never got around to explaining what went wrong; coincidently he was the only credible site running with this story.....mistakes may have been made.

Though his biggest mistake was jumping the gun and announcing this on TV.

 

[Serene]

I would be so excited to see Tom play Superman In JLA. I can't think of anyone else I'd rather see in this role. :heart:

Me either. I'm doubting how open I'm going to be to seeing another actor in the role on the big screen again. I honestly don't know.

At the same time, I really want to see him do different things. Getting typecast is a valid consideration. Maybe if they offered him an option to also do a couple of other non-Superman related movies it would sweeten the deal. I think that once the mainstream movie-going public discovers him he will be very successful. He has everything it takes, especially that unique "it" factor that is so hard to describe but when you have it, you just have it. When he is on screen its hard to take your eyes off him. He just draws you in.

Coudn't agree more. But...I do think it would be a bad decision career-wise for Tom to pass on this if it was ever offered to him. Sure, he's got amazing on-screen charisma, but getting good breaks in ollywood, (i.e. decent scripts) is a very hard thing, and maybe even harder for a guy who's spent the last 6 years in a genre based TV show. I'd love for Tom to WANT to continue his portrayal of the MOS, and to play it for all it's worth.

If he doesn't *want* it though, that's a whole 'nother story. I'll still support him no matter what he does, but until we know otherwise, I won't stop hoping for him to get this role in this movie.

I just wish we would hear something definite.

Can I get an "Aaaamen!"

 

[Justice Bringer]

2. Was he considered for the role?

That's the big one I'm starting to question.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

with the casting call ages out. I think Tom is still in the running. I have no facts other tthan the fact Smallville starts this weekend.

 

[TWistim]

It's becoming increasingly clearer that his seven (or eight) years on Smallville will be his only contribution to the live action legacy of Superman.

And what a contribution that has been!!! He has won his place in Superman history already in my book.

As unlikely as it may seem to some, I don't think that Tom is out of the running. There is too much speculation and rumor and not enough solid info to know anything for sure. I'm not gonna give up hope until I see someone else announced.

And I agree with you, Serene. I think this movie could put Tom on the radar screen of those in a position to offer him the types of roles that those of us who really believe in him want to see him get a chance to do.