Tom Welling as Superman

[AgentPat]

Adam Brody is actually a pretty decent actor, but he always seems a bit.. scrawny to me. I just don't see him as Superhero material at all.

I put some thought to these new casting choices last night. I think either Brody or Long could do a fine job as Flash. In fact, Brody's potential casting would make me laugh a little IF Welling ends up as Supes because he too has a history with WB, he's been on SV previously, he's vaguely similarity to SV's Flash (physique and acting style) and like Welling, Brody is extremely popular with teenage audiences. So if it happens, I will not be surprised in the slightest. That said, I'm having a hard time envisioning Brody becoming the new Flash in solo feature films - which is the whole point of doing JL first, right? They want to launch the individual franchises. So Adam Brody? Flash? Umm... I think I'd rather see Kyle Gallner LOL.

Casting Long also makes sense from a younger, teen appeal POV, and I could see him carrying the Flash franchise out of JL. I enjoyed watching him in the last Die Hard film. He's a good actor with an affable look. So if he ends up as Flash, I could get behind that. How funny his casting would be though considering his appearances in the Mac/PC ads and the hysterical Marvel/DC parodies they inspired.

But where does all this leave Ryan Reynolds? Because if the plan was to give fans what they've been asking for, and Warners turns around and casts somebody else, I'll really be confused. If there's ONE actor everybody seems to be in agreement on, it's Ryan Reynolds for Flash.

Regarding the candidates for GL, I only know Tyrese Gibson because of his role in Transformers. I never even heard of the other guys (T.I. Harris and "Common?"), so... whatever on that. I don't have an opinion either way. *shrugs*

You know with all the negativity about Tom playing Supes, particularly after Al's latest verbal spewage, I can't help but wonder why the scoopers aren't having an easier time just ruling Tom out from being involved with this film at all. You'd think that at least one of the "sources" out there would just say we won't tell you who's in, but we will tell you that Welling is out.

They tried that already. But then the rumors started he was back in talks LOL. So either THAT is the false information Sanchez heard was being leaked, or it's true and Welling could very much be it - they just don't want it scooped yet.

Perhaps I'm just grasping at straws here, but it seems a very easy thing to rule any actor out, as opposed to confirming one. The fact that it's not happening is making me hang on to a very thin thread of hope.

I'd rather hope and be disappointed than give up.

I'm with ya, but it's not for a lack of trying. There have been very vehement denials made by Gough. Problem is, nobody wants to believe Mr. Sunshine because of all of the other rumors implicated him as being the gunk in the works. I personally don't trust Gough as far as I can throw him.

There ARE two things that I still find oddly suspicious. First is Welling's reps saying "no comment." If he's not involved, why not just say he's not involved like they did initially? Second is the complete lack of any other rumored candidates for Superman. Even Batman has had a few names run through the rumor mill. Given their popularity and recognition, Superman and Batman are the big draws, so the other franchises are somewhat dependent on Warners getting two actors that audiences will want to see. Which brings us back to the whole point of why they'd want to cast Welling. But then there's the Ryan Reynolds situation...

I'm sooooo confused. LOL

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know if they can not get Tom Welling for Justice League then maybe Dean Cain should put on the tights again. At least with Dean Cain for the most part they would not have to worry to much with him looking to different as he ages.

 

[Prison Mike]

I could see Brody as Flash. He was funny in OC and had good drama in Land of Women. I did want Reynolds as Flash but if they can't get him, then Brody would be ok.

 

[triplet]

Nope. I appreciate the human form. Try again.

How about this?

 

[AgentPat]

You know if they can not get Tom Welling for Justice League then maybe Dean Cain should put on the tights again. At least with Dean Cain for the most part they would not have to worry to much with him looking to different as he ages.

Huh?

And jeezes no. NO to Dean Cain as Superman in JL.

 

[Prison Mike]

You know if they can not get Tom Welling for Justice League then maybe Dean Cain should put on the tights again. At least with Dean Cain for the most part they would not have to worry to much with him looking to different as he ages.

Dean Cain was horrible as Superman. I would not be happy. Either Welling or Routh, IMO. If not Welling, then I will be voting for Routh over Cain any day.

 

[AgentPat]

How about this?

ROFLMFAO!!! Perfect.

 

[triplet]

ROFLMFAO!!! Perfect.

I had it laying around... Made it a few years ago and I never use it. It'd be a shame to let it go to waste....



It has a nice Christmassy flavor to it, maybe I'll put it up for Christmas time which, you know, could start anytime now especially since Walmart is already selling Christimas stuff.

 

[AgentPat]

Oooo... check out what Maze found this morning:
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/exclusive-wolverine-and-justice-league-updates.php

Here's the part pertinent to JL:

Meanwhile, over on George Miller’s Justice League, we can report that the bulk of filming will take place at Fox Studios in Sydney and will involve extensive green screen work.

As for crew members, Miller has added another Oscar winner to his team in the form of director of photography Dean Semler. Art direction comes from Hugh Bateup and Damien Drew, both veterans of The Matrix franchise and Superman Returns.

P.J. Voeten, who has worked with Miller on Happy Feet and Babe will join the production as first assistant director when he finishes work on The Mummy 3 in Canada.

Now for something that’s sure to get fanboys salivating - WETA will be designing the costumes for the Justice League heroes! They may even be handling visual effects as well, though that news isn’t confirmed yet.

It’s worth noting that films on this scale will often take on several effects houses to manage the workload, so WETA are likely to be involved in some form.

My word, everything about this movie is starting to sound amazing. Now only if they can get the casting right.....

 

[RakuMon]

I put some thought to these new casting choices last night. I think either Brody or Long could do a fine job as Flash. In fact, Brody's potential casting would make me laugh a little IF Welling ends up as Supes because he too has a history with WB, he's been on SV previously, he's vaguely similarity to SV's Flash (physique and acting style) and like Welling, Brody is extremely popular with teenage audiences. So if it happens, I will not be surprised in the slightest. That said, I'm having a hard time envisioning Brody becoming the new Flash in solo feature films - which is the whole point of doing JL first, right? They want to launch the individual franchises. So Adam Brody? Flash? Umm... I think I'd rather see Kyle Gallner LOL.

Casting Long also makes sense from a younger, teen appeal POV, and I could see him carrying the Flash franchise out of JL. I enjoyed watching him in the last Die Hard film. He's a good actor with an affable look. So if he ends up as Flash, I could get behind that. How funny his casting would be though considering his appearances in the Mac/PC ads and the hysterical Marvel/DC parodies they inspired.

But where does all this leave Ryan Reynolds? Because if the plan was to give fans what they've been asking for, and Warners turns around and casts somebody else, I'll really be confused. If there's ONE actor everybody seems to be in agreement on, it's Ryan Reynolds for Flash.

Regarding the candidates for GL, I only know Tyrese Gibson because of his role in Transformers. I never even heard of the other guys (T.I. Harris and "Common?"), so... whatever on that. I don't have an opinion either way. *shrugs*

They tried that already. But then the rumors started he was back in talks LOL. So either THAT is the false information Sanchez heard was being leaked, or it's true and Welling could very much be it - they just don't want it scooped yet.

I'm with ya, but it's not for a lack of trying. There have been very vehement denials made by Gough. Problem is, nobody wants to believe Mr. Sunshine because of all of the other rumors implicated him as being the gunk in the works. I personally don't trust Gough as far as I can throw him.

There ARE two things that I still find oddly suspicious. First is Welling's reps saying "no comment." If he's not involved, why not just say he's not involved like they did initially? Second is the complete lack of any other rumored candidates for Superman. Even Batman has had a few names run through the rumor mill. Given their popularity and recognition, Superman and Batman are the big draws, so the other franchises are somewhat dependent on Warners getting two actors that audiences will want to see. Which brings us back to the whole point of why they'd want to cast Welling. But then there's the Ryan Reynolds situation...

I'm sooooo confused. LOL

I'm with you on the confusion about going away from Reynolds. But I'm not feeling Adam Brody or Justin Long though. I remember Brody was rumored for Jimmy Olsen when McG was doing Superman. I think he's more suited for that. I can't see him as either Barry Allen or Wally West.

As for Green Lantern, I don't have a problem with Tyrese Gibson. Though I hope they go more for the JLU interpretation for Stewart (the mature, cool military vet). If not Tyrese, I don't hate Common (ne Rashid Lynn) for the role since he's one of my favorite artists ever. He's pretty good in the few acting roles he's been in too (Smokin' Aces -- in which he co-starred with Ryan Reynolds, though they didn't have any scenes together & TV's Girlfriends), plus he's got significant roles in the upcoming American Gangster with Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe and Wanted with Angelina Jolie and Morgan Freeman.

 

[TWistim]

There ARE two things that I still find oddly suspicious. First is Welling's reps saying "no comment." If he's not involved, why not just say he's not involved like they did initially? Second is the complete lack of any other rumored candidates for Superman. Even Batman has had a few names run through the rumor mill. Given their popularity and recognition, Superman and Batman are the big draws, so the other franchises are somewhat dependent on Warners getting two actors that audiences will want to see. Which brings us back to the whole point of why they'd want to cast Welling. But then there's the Ryan Reynolds situation...

I'm sooooo confused. LOL

The third thing that keeps hope alive for me is the fact that Tom was in LA that weekend when so much was rumored to be happening with negotiations. I know he has a home there but from what I understand about him, he and Jamie don't like the Hollywood scene and are more the stay at home family types. So why would they spend their extended weekend in LA unless there was a reason to be there.

The fourth thing is, wow, did everything just dry up all at once! If Welling is the new Superman that is a particularly big deal, given all the history behind it, and they are most definitely going to want to be the ones to break the "BIG NEWS."

I also think the decision to announce the whole cast at the same time is a smart idea on their part. Whichever way this all goes down there will be some who are not satisfied so if they are disappointed in one member of the cast maybe they will be appeased in another and that will lessen the fallout.

 

[Prison Mike]

Does anyone know if supporting characters will be in the movie like Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Alfred or other characters from DC?

 

[triplet]

Does anyone know if supporting characters will be in the movie like Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Alfred or other characters from DC?

I don't there's any talk of supporting characters like them.

If they're doing the OMAC storyline, Lois was in that hardly at all which is surprising given her husband was in mortal danger, but I have a feeling she doesn't really make many appearances in Justice League stories anyway.

The same with Perry and Alfred.

Maybe it's not surprising since the JLA stories tend to be prominently about the costumed part of the superheroes' lives and not the secret identity/private life parts...

 

[KBX]

Does anyone know if supporting characters will be in the movie like Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Alfred or other characters from DC?

so far we have heard none..... Once I heard Talia was in it, but haven't heard about her since.... I don't think you will see many supporting characters because you have 8 potential lead roles......

 

[Prison Mike]

with so many in the league, I wonder how they will do every character justice.

 

[AgentPat]

I'm with you on the confusion about going away from Reynolds. But I'm not feeling Adam Brody or Justin Long though. I remember Brody was rumored for Jimmy Olsen when McG was doing Superman. I think he's more suited for that. I can't see him as either Barry Allen or Wally West.

I guess it's easier for me to see Brody in the role because I can think "Bart." He would work in an ensemble cast of beefy guys and a "don't-bleep-with-me" Wonder Woman. But on his own? In his own franchise? Nah. Can't see it. J. Long I could see because I think he has feature film star power behind him. He also looks like he's got the genetics to put on muscle. I could be wrong, I dunno. I'd still rather see Ryan Reynolds though.

The third thing that keeps hope alive for me is the fact that Tom was in LA that weekend when so much was rumored to be happening with negotiations.

It's suspicious, but I'm gonna write that one off as just coincidence. All of the cast members were in LA that weekend, and despite claims of photos showing Welling at Warners, none have been posted. So that detail is pretty iffy in my mind.

So why would they spend their extended weekend in LA unless there was a reason to be there.

Who knows? Maybe there was a different reason for being there? I'm playing Devil's Advocate because I'd rather have some proof his appearance in LA was more than just circumstantial evidence of his being in town to sign a contract. Besides, would he even *need* to be there? I mean, wouldn't his agent have power of attorney for those purposes?

"You sure about this, Tom?"
"Yeah, g'head. Make it happen."
"Okay dude. Photocopies will be FedEx'd tomorrow. Have fun at the gym tonight..."

LOL

The fourth thing is, wow, did everything just dry up all at once!

Yeah, good point. If we wrote off *everything* we've heard about Welling in the role, there'd be no Superman casting rumors at all. Bizarre. I'll wretch if I find out Routh was it all along. Sorry. I don't like him as Superman and don't want to see him cast, but who else is there that would immediately be "accepted" in the role by the GP? Nobody. I may be biased, but I think that conclusion is a no brainer. Logic says it'll be one or the other, 'cause casting a third Superman is MORONIC.

If Welling is the new Superman that is a particularly big deal, given all the history behind it, and they are most definitely going to want to be the ones to break the "BIG NEWS."

And big news it would be, so lets hope it goes in that direction.

I also think the decision to announce the whole cast at the same time is a smart idea on their part. Whichever way this all goes down there will be some who are not satisfied so if they are disappointed in one member of the cast maybe they will be appeased in another and that will lessen the fallout.

Interesting theory. Sounds very plausible.

Does anyone know if supporting characters will be in the movie like Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Alfred or other characters from DC?

Sanchez said JL was focused on the heroes, so characters like Lois Lane wouldn't be included. Probably a good thing since there's seven protagonists, and each have quite an extensive cadre of supporting characters in their respective histories. The film could get overly complicated by adding too many more characters.

 

[triplet]

I guess it's easier for me to see Brody in the role because I can think "Bart." He would work in an ensemble cast of beefy guys and a "don't-bleep-with-me" Wonder Woman. But on his own? In his own franchise? Nah. Can't see it. J. Long I could see because I think he has feature film star power behind him. He also looks like he's got the genetics to put on muscle. I could be wrong, I dunno. I'd still rather see Ryan Reynolds though.

It's suspicious, but I'm gonna write that one off as just coincidence. All of the cast members were in LA that weekend, and despite claims of photos showing Welling at Warners, none have been posted. So that detail is pretty iffy in my mind.

Who knows? Maybe there was a different reason for being there? I'm playing Devil's Advocate because I'd rather have some proof his appearance in LA was more than just circumstantial evidence of his being in town to sign a contract. Besides, would he even *need* to be there? I mean, wouldn't his agent have power of attorney for those purposes?

"You sure about this, Tom?"
"Yeah, g'head. Make it happen."
"Okay dude. Photocopies will be FedEx'd tomorrow. Have fun at the gym tonight..."

LOL

I dunno 'bout that, I'm no lawyer (you'd have to ask Boom or Hulk to be sure) but I think in Hollywood the act of signing an important isn't something that is always left to FEDEX and to lawyers with power of attorney.

I know I've had to sign contracts before when I was out of town, and the TPTB didn't have problems sending me crap in FEDEX envelopes but then it wasn't for a million dollar/multi-picture deal either.

I had read somewhere that signing something like this is a big deal and the power players like to have the talent come to them. If there were contracts he needed to sign, I can very well see them expecting him to do it in person.

Hollywood is still a people business and they'd want to shake his hand and meet him...

Yeah, good point. If we wrote off *everything* we've heard about Welling in the role, there'd be no Superman casting rumors at all. Bizarre. I'll wretch if I find out Routh was it all along. Sorry. I don't like him as Superman and don't want to see him cast, but who else is there that would immediately be "accepted" in the role by the GP? Nobody. I may be biased, but I think that conclusion is a no brainer. Logic says it'll be one or the other, 'cause casting a third Superman is MORONIC.

And big news it would be, so lets hope it goes in that direction.

Interesting theory. Sounds very plausible.

Sanchez said JL was focused on the heroes, so characters like Lois Lane wouldn't be included. Probably a good thing since there's seven protagonists, and each have quite an extensive cadre of supporting characters in their respective histories. The film could get overly complicated by adding too many more characters.

I'm hoping that no news is good news in this department, so I'm still clinging to hope but I'm also realistic.

It could very well not be Tom, I'll try to be not as disappointed this time but I think now it's actually is looking better for him than it did last time so here's hoping...

*crosses fingers"

 

[AgentPat]

I dunno 'bout that, I'm no lawyer (you'd have to ask Boom or Hulk to be sure) but I think in Hollywood the act of signing an important isn't something that is always left to FEDEX and to lawyers with power of attorney.

You can grant power of attorney to whomever you want, and it can be conditional to something specific. For example, you can grant power of attorney for somebody to sign a mortgage agreement, but the person wouldn't necessarily be legally allowed to sign your name on a personal check in order to withdraw two bucks from your bank account. It's very conditional. It's one of the things Personal Managers often do for clients who often find themselves out of town. Foreign correspondents, military personnel, etc. They all have to have somebody legally granted power of attorney for various matters. But I'm just speculating about Welling.

I know I've had to sign contracts before when I was out of town, and the TPTB didn't have problems sending me crap in FEDEX envelopes but then it wasn't for a million dollar/multi-picture deal either.

I was joking about FedX, but I was referring to the *photocopied* documents of agreements signed by Welling's reps. I've mailed letters with *my* signature to people I was signing for. It's something that's done out of courtesy but not necessarily required. You want your clients to have a record of the things you sign their names to, even if it's just a secretary's letter. But again, I'm just speculating.

I'm hoping that no news is good news in this department, so I'm still clinging to hope but I'm also realistic.

It could very well not be Tom, I'll try to be not as disappointed this time but I think now it's actually is looking better for him than it did last time so here's hoping...

*crosses fingers"

I've got all digits crossed with ya babe. The waiting game sux.

 

[Serene]

How about this?

Oooh, I love that one.

I've got one that would curl some toes around here.

I'll be good though.

 

[AgentPat]

Oooh, I love that one.

I've got one that would curl some toes around here.

I'll be good though.

Awwww! Post it! Is it... "clean?" I'd luv to see some toes get curled around here. LOL

 

[Serene]

Awwww! Post it! Is it... "clean?" I'd luv to see some toes get curled around here. LOL

Not really postable without permission of the artist, who I doubt would grant it.

 

[triplet]

Yikes....

Multiple posting.

 

[triplet]

ooops...

 

[triplet]

You can grant power of attorney to whomever you want, and it can be conditional to something specific. For example, you can grant power of attorney for somebody to sign a mortgage agreement, but the person wouldn't necessarily be legally allowed to sign your name on a personal check in order to withdraw two bucks from your bank account. It's very conditional. It's one of the things Personal Managers often do for clients who often find themselves out of town. Foreign correspondents, military personnel, etc. They all have to have somebody legally granted power of attorney for various matters. But I'm just speculating about Welling.

I was joking about FedX, but I was referring to the *photocopied* documents of agreements signed by Welling's reps. I've mailed letters with *my* signature to people I was signing for. It's something that's done out of courtesy but not necessarily required. You want your clients to have a record of the things you sign their names to, even if it's just a secretary's letter. But again, I'm just speculating.

Yeah, I understand legally there's no reason he would have sign something in person. I know that.

What I was getting at is that it's usually done in person anyway, or so I read.

The reasoning given that I read was that the wheeler-dealers/mover-shakers in Hollywood like to be the lords of their domains. They don't go to the talent, not even on paper (FEDEX envelopes carrying the contracts to and fro).

They have the talent come to them and most deals are actually completed in person.

It's a sign of their power....

So, I think Tom being in LA might very well mean something when it comes to the rumors that were flying last weekend.

Then again, it could all be a coincidence.

It could be that he was in town for some other reason even though he's never in town for the weekend (unlike Rosendork) but I guess I'm a little like Lex: I don't believe in coincidences.



I'm thinking it meant something but I guess we'll see.

I've got all digits crossed with ya babe. The waiting game sux.

Yep.

True enough.

Oooh, I love that one.

I've got one that would curl some toes around here.

I'll be good though.

I would love to see it.

I could use this one instead...

 

[AgentPat]

^ Gotcha! Hey, I'm more than happy to lean towards the belief there was something to Welling being in LA that weekend. I just wish we had some other confirmation.


What's up with the boards today? Is it just me, or is the server wonky?



Okay, new theory. Cause I love coming up with new theories. LOL

What if Warners is pissed about the casting leak because they wanted to keep it from CW?

Now wait, before you guys shoot me out of the sky like a clay pigeon, hear me out. How motivated would CW be to renew SV for an eighth season if they *knew* the star of the show would only be making guest appearances at best? Or worse - not be back at all?

G&M needs to know by November if CW is renewing for S8. What if there's a set date for that commitment? Like a few days before November 18? *cough* Gough's vehement denials might not have been to throw fans off the scent but a couched reassurance to CW that all is well! We've all been wondering why in tarnation GOUGH - of all people - keeps making statements when Warner Bros. is staying mum, and Welling's own reps are declining comment. Hmmm...

So here we are: SV's ratings are great (for CW). Superskirt looks promising. G&M have jawed publicly about having enough material to go eight seasons for months. Welling is SIGNED for S8, along with Durance and Glover, and it's likely G&M would be able to get Rosenbaum back for at least a partial season as a guest star. Everything is peachy keen. Given the rest of CW's piss poor line-up (with the exceptions of ANTM, Reaper and SN), there'd be no reason to doubt SV couldn't pull in the same ratings next year, right? Nothing's changed, right?

Bzzzzzt! Wrong. If SV was renewed for next season, but Welling's deal with Warner Bros. let him out of having to return for S8, I personally would have NO desire to watch the show anymore. And I'm guessing, so would a lot of other people. SV without TW is a deal breaker. I'd wave bye at that point and not look back.

Just throwing it out there FWIW.