Tom Welling as Superman

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And thats where you got to understand where people are coming from with Welling. It doesn't matter if he has put on the suit or not the history of SV has rubbed a lot of people (fanboys) the wrong way. But it is silly to laugh at a certian group for not wanting to see the movie if their Superman is not in it while some of you will not see the movie if Welling does not become Superman at the end of Smallville or some of you will not see it if Routh is still Superman. I however think all actors Welling, Routh, Cavill, etc could pull it off either way and no matter who is in the tights I will still see it because it is a Superman movie.

It can be argued that Routh turned off a lot more people than Welling ever has. By its nature, Superman Returns was a humungoid film that was released on tens of thousands of screens around the world. It wasn't just Superman fans Routh disappointed, SR disappointed loads of movie fans in general.

Now, with Welling, because Smallville is an overall smaller entity than Superman Returns, the number of eyeballs it has recieved is, by definition, smaller. Also, the number of viewers it has "rubbed the wrong way" is minuscule in comparison. Mainstream awareness of Smallville is much lower than mainstream awareness of Superman Returns (if I recall correctly, it wasn't Tom's face on underoos and cereal boxes).

The point is Routh had his shot and the audience rejected him. Welling hasn't had the opportunity on the same scale to draw an accurate comparison. (The last time Welling and Smallville received a marketing push that is any way comparable to what a major h-wood blockbuster gets might have been back in 2001, and from what I can tell, Smallville didn't do half bad back then.)
 
So let me get this straight. Say if Tom Welling is not Superman but they keep Brandon Routh as Superman (as some sites have stated) you guys would still see this movie even if it is a reboot? And this is a question to all SV and Welling fans. Because I have seen many say they wont see this movie with out him for a reboot or if Routh is still Superman.

No offense to all who loved the film, but Superman Returns is one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and extremely disappointing for me, because I've been a Superman fan a lot longer than I've been a Tom Welling fan and I never want Superman to fail, and that movie failed for me, a large part to the utter vapidness of the person playing Superman. I didn't buy it and I definitely wouldn't see another Superman film with him in the role. I don't care of Welling is in the role or not, I highly doubt he will be, but i'd like someone with the presence to do the role justice and Routh didn't have that for me, and I don't think he ever will.
 
No offense to all who loved the film, but Superman Returns is one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and extremely disappointing for me, because I've been a Superman fan a lot longer than I've been a Tom Welling fan and I never want Superman to fail, and that movie failed for me, a large part to the utter vapidness of the person playing Superman. I didn't buy it and I definitely wouldn't see another Superman film with him in the role. I don't care of Welling is in the role or not, I highly doubt he will be, but i'd like someone with the presence to do the role justice and Routh didn't have that for me, and I don't think he ever will.

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It can be argued that Routh turned off a lot more people than Welling ever has. By its nature, Superman Returns was a humungoid film that was released on tens of thousands of screens around the world. It wasn't just Superman fans Routh disappointed, SR disappointed loads of movie fans in general.

Now, with Welling, because Smallville is an overall smaller entity than Superman Returns, the number of eyeballs it has recieved is, by definition, smaller. Also, the number of viewers it has "rubbed the wrong way" is minuscule in comparison. Mainstream awareness of Smallville is much lower than mainstream awareness of Superman Returns (if I recall correctly, it wasn't Tom's face on underoos and cereal boxes).

The point is Routh had his shot and the audience rejected him. Welling hasn't had the opportunity on the same scale to draw an accurate comparison. (The last time Welling and Smallville received a marketing push that is any way comparable to what a major h-wood blockbuster gets might have been back in 2001, and from what I can tell, Smallville didn't do half bad back then.)
See this is where I would disagree. I think people were turned off to Singer's story then Routh's Superman as you would see by most people over the web. I think the same can be said for Welling in Smallville where people are more turned off of what Smallville has done then the actor himself. Thats why I think either one of them could work. However IMO I feel the WB should go with someone new because then he won't be connected to Smallville of Superman Returns and then we could just start fresh but at the end of the day you can't please everyone. So be it Routh, Welling, Cavill, Bomer, etc someone will always be upset, be it a sequel, reboot, SV the movie, etc everyone is not going to enjoy it. As I said before I think a reboot with Routh or Welling could work be it that Welling was apart of Smallville or Routh was apart of SR. Remember they were going to do the same thing with Reeve before he got hurt with Brainic.
 
No offense to all who loved the film, but Superman Returns is one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and extremely disappointing for me, because I've been a Superman fan a lot longer than I've been a Tom Welling fan and I never want Superman to fail, and that movie failed for me, a large part to the utter vapidness of the person playing Superman. I didn't buy it and I definitely wouldn't see another Superman film with him in the role. I don't care of Welling is in the role or not, I highly doubt he will be, but i'd like someone with the presence to do the role justice and Routh didn't have that for me, and I don't think he ever will.
And I respect that but what I am trying to get at it is silly to say you won't see a movie because said actor is playing the role. I mean if that was the case I would have never seen the two new James Bond movies. How you guys feel about Routh is how some feel about Welling which is why I am saying both have got to play the role (somewhat) and both have left the fan boys split pretty much. And I am not trying to make a case for Routh because even though I liked him in SR. I think for a reboot someone new would be better like Cavill but I also think the two (Routh or Welling) could work as well.
 
And thats where you got to understand where people are coming from with Welling.

Reversing the juxstapositon I'm pointing out doesnt prove your point, it only enforces mine that the same people who ***** and moan about Welling bringing Smallville's "baggage" to the film franchise are ironically the same ones who would take Routh back even though his bags were far more visible and weigh much more.

It doesn't matter if he has put on the suit or not the history of SV has rubbed a lot of people (fanboys) the wrong way. But it is silly to laugh at a certian group for not wanting to see the movie if their Superman is not in it while some of you will not see the movie if Welling does not become Superman at the end of Smallville or some of you will not see it if Routh is still Superman.

Your continued attempts to try and quantify subjective matter would be funny if they werent so sad. And I havent seen ONE single person in this forum who said they wouldnt see a new film if Welling wasnt in it so I' dont know where you're getting that from? I've only seen people say they wouldnt see it if Routh is in it again. The Routhers who continue to wander into this thread 30 months later, are the only ones dealing in absolutes.

I however think all actors Welling, Routh, Cavill, etc could pull it off either way and no matter who is in the tights I will still see it because it is a Superman movie.

and thats your problem. You'll digest any crap fed to you so long as it comes with :supes: label on it. You'd fit in nicely over at BlueTights

It can be argued that Routh turned off a lot more people than Welling ever has. By its nature, Superman Returns was a humungoid film that was released on tens of thousands of screens around the world. It wasn't just Superman fans Routh disappointed, SR disappointed loads of movie fans in general.

Now, with Welling, because Smallville is an overall smaller entity than Superman Returns, the number of eyeballs it has recieved is, by definition, smaller. Also, the number of viewers it has "rubbed the wrong way" is minuscule in comparison. Mainstream awareness of Smallville is much lower than mainstream awareness of Superman Returns (if I recall correctly, it wasn't Tom's face on underoos and cereal boxes).

The point is Routh had his shot and the audience rejected him. Welling hasn't had the opportunity on the same scale to draw an accurate comparison. (The last time Welling and Smallville received a marketing push that is any way comparable to what a major h-wood blockbuster gets might have been back in 2001, and from what I can tell, Smallville didn't do half bad back then.)

thank you for the breath of fresh air. It's nice to see a common sense post once in a while. People tend to not be able to see things outside of what goes on in their own little worlds. Because Smallville and SR are equally as exposed in the online fan community world of Superman fans (a VERY small sampling of people) doesnt mean that applied to the general populace at large. Ultimate Superman doesnt seem to grasp this concept.


No offense to all who loved the film, but Superman Returns is one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and extremely disappointing for me, because I've been a Superman fan a lot longer than I've been a Tom Welling fan and I never want Superman to fail, and that movie failed for me, a large part to the utter vapidness of the person playing Superman. I didn't buy it and I definitely wouldn't see another Superman film with him in the role. I don't care of Welling is in the role or not, I highly doubt he will be, but i'd like someone with the presence to do the role justice and Routh didn't have that for me, and I don't think he ever will.

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And I respect that but what I am trying to get at it is silly to say you won't see a movie because said actor is playing the role. I mean if that was the case I would have never seen the two new James Bond movies. How you guys feel about Routh is how some feel about Welling which is why I am saying both have got to play the role (somewhat) and both have left the fan boys split pretty much. And I am not trying to make a case for Routh because even though I liked him in SR. I think for a reboot someone new would be better like Cavill but I also think the two (Routh or Welling) could work as well.

The actor is very integral to the enjoyment of the film, at least for me, and fanboys do not make up the general public, so I'm a little tired of hearing how they feel about Welling or Routh, i don't think it matters. Again, i don't care who is playing Superman as long as they can sell the role, Routh didn't and if they didn't use him again, I don't think the general public would really care. He isn't needed, its time to look for someone else.
 
See this is where I would disagree. I think people were turned off to Singer's story then Routh's Superman as you would see by most people over the web.

I hate this argument. "It wasn't Routh's fault, it was all Singers!" B. to the S.

Not that Singer isn't the goto guy when it comes to ultimate responsibility, but Routh simply didn't have what it takes to bring that iconic role (and all that goes with it) convincingly to the big screen. Do you notice the abundance of people who say they'd be fine with Routh again because he was "okay" in the role? Seriously? OKAY? Superman should be OKAY? Granted, I'm totally biased since my perspective is as a person who was knocked out of her socks by Christopher Reeve on the big screen. My standards are a bit high for what an actor should project from that big screen when he's wearing The Suit.

I'm not trying to bash the guy, I'm sure he worked hard on the film and seemed truly thrilled to have landed such a role. But what unknown actor wouldn't be? Sympathy shouldn't earn points in the casting game.

To give him the chance AGAIN just because some of his noisier fans continue to try and shift all the blame for that movie's disappointing performance onto Singer, would be a huge blow to the Superman franchise.

Welling has the potential, in a good film, to have the kind of impact the franchise needs. Multiply the response he's had on that little bitty network times the kind of exposure he'd get in a big movie role. Sure he's gorgeous and attracts a lot of love from the women-folk, but anyone who really watches this season can see the presence he brings when he's finally allowed to play the grown-up man he actually is.

What SV brings to the screen after only what, 7-10 days shooting?, compared to a movie that's given MONTHS to film, not to mention, retake after retake? It boggles my mind how good he could be.

The SV haterz, and really that's who are the biggest slice of the anti-Welling camp, are a DROP in the movie-going pond. Any alleged "SV baggage" isn't even in the ballpark of the baggage carried by Routh at this point.

I also happen to like Cavill a whole lot. Have you seen his new ads for Dunhill? The guy is dripping with presence and charisma. He'd be a great choice too.

An unknown is always a possibility, but I don't think another Superman movie, in the wake of SR's bland taste in the mouth, would do as well with a completely unknown face. The bar for Superhero movies has been shot through the roof, thanks to Batman and Ironman. I think casting Joe-Schmoe-Tall-Dark-Hair-Guy again would be a mistake.

*wow, I haven't had a good coffee-fueled rant in a long time. :D
 
'Rene speaks the truth, but I had to co-sign a couple points specifically.

Welling has the potential, in a good film, to have the kind of impact the franchise needs. Multiply the response he's had on that little bitty network times the kind of exposure he'd get in a big movie role. Sure he's gorgeous and attracts a lot of love from the women-folk, but anyone who really watches this season can see the presence he brings when he's finally allowed to play the grown-up man he actually is.

Indeed. In fact, if you read what little mainstream press that has been devoted to Smallville these past few seasons, the consensus is that Tom Welling is a natural in the role. I think a lot of people take him for granted as Superman already.

What SV brings to the screen after only what, 7-10 days shooting?, compared to a movie that's given MONTHS to film, not to mention, retake after retake? It boggles my mind how good he could be.

I mentioned something similar in an earlier post arguing that a Smallville-led movie could be a bigger ROI for Warner than going with another high-priced director, unknown star or no. The simple fact is that Smallville is getting it done (and has been for several years) on a shoestring budget that gets slashed every season. Now, if they can make everything as gorgeous and cinematic as they do considering those financial hurdles, imagine Glen Winter behind the lens with $150M to play with. That's chump change in the summer blockbuster game, but that would be a playground for the Smallville folks.

The SV haterz, and really that's who are the biggest slice of the anti-Welling camp, are a DROP in the movie-going pond. Any alleged "SV baggage" isn't even in the ballpark of the baggage carried by Routh at this point.

Yeah, this is the point I was trying to make about five or six posts up.

An unknown is always a possibility, but I don't think another Superman movie, in the wake of SR's bland taste in the mouth, would do as well with a completely unknown face. The bar for Superhero movies has been shot through the roof, thanks to Batman and Ironman. I think casting Joe-Schmoe-Tall-Dark-Hair-Guy again would be a mistake.

The unknown actor route has never held any water with me. Chris Reeve as Superman was lightning in a bottle. BUT, he didn't succeed in the role because he was unknown. He succeeded because he had the ability, charisma, charm, and talent to make you believe a man could fly. So to use the template of "Unknown = Superhero" based solely on that precedent presupposes that any Joe Schmo in Hollywood has the same potential as Christopher F'n Reeve!

In fact, when you look at the most successful comic book/superhero movies to date, the lead roles were played, not by unknowns, but by talented actors. Even unconventional choices (like Michael Keaton as Batman or Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man) worked because the actors were able to pull off the challenges of the role. But in neither case were the stars "unknown." And the latest batch of comic mega-franchises have cast character actors in the leads for a reason (Bale, Downey Jr., Ed Norton), they're brilliant frickin' actors.

So the whole Superman should be an unknown was not only disproven in 2006, the opposite theory has taken hold in the last few years, and has proved to be the way to go.


(Also, don't get it twisted. I am in no way trying to imply that Tom Welling is in the same league as either Bale or RDJ. The last bit of the post is solely to discredit the notion that Superman needs to be a complete unknown.)
 
Regarding how the general public views Superman Returns, this comment at EW.com* pretty much sums it up for me.

SUPERMAN RETURNS. Um, Superman Returns!
WHAT WE GOT: A hero who barely speaks, and stalks his ex. A villain who's still basically a glorified car salesman. And a super 5-year old. Seriously.


*The comment in question is on a post about movies whose trailers were better than the film itself. Call it Phantom Menace syndrome. It's a pretty interesting read: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/12/site-of-the-d-4.html
 
Regarding how the general public views Superman Returns, this comment at EW.com* pretty much sums it up for me.




*The comment in question is on a post about movies whose trailers were better than the film itself. Call it Phantom Menace syndrome. It's a pretty interesting read: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/12/site-of-the-d-4.html

Yeah, that's great proof. One guy posting in response to a blog and the guy probably is from SaveSuperman. Amazing find. :whatever:
 
Regarding how the general public views Superman Returns, this comment at EW.com* pretty much sums it up for me.




*The comment in question is on a post about movies whose trailers were better than the film itself. Call it Phantom Menace syndrome. It's a pretty interesting read: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/12/site-of-the-d-4.html

Oh come on, you really gonna play this game? You KNOW someone is going to post a quote from TIME or something just to spite that comment...gaining us, nothing.

Come on Raku, we both know that sides have been divided well before Singer made his movie. Fans can't even agree on what kind of Superman they want, let alone the direction of a film and its ingredients....I've said it before and I"ll say it again, Superman fans are by nature, the most divided group in all the comic fandom.

You've got the Reeve/Donner group, you've got the Smallville group, you've got the "Just be faithful to the comics" group that can't decide Pre/Post among other things, you've now got the SR/Singer group as well...by default, a large sector of people will not be happy with decisions made on any Superman feature, even though it should be the standard for the brand to the general public.

Someone will always feel slighted, and all we get is well.....read the last few pages. No wonder the WB has no idea in what direction to head, the worst thing they could do is listen to the different groups of fans. I mean, just look at the biggest Superman websites out there and their poster agendas....BTN, SHP, Kryptonsite, SHH. They are all over the place in regard to their views and each other. Maybe they already did the best thing they could do and got someone like G.Johns to act as a consultant as has been speculated...its better than solely have one group of the movie dept. making all the decisions regarding input and what would be best for ALL involved, from the penny counters to the kids eating their popcorn.

They've at least taken a step in the right direction it seems. Last time, people said that Singer didn't so much as look at a comic book for inspiration, now you've got a big presence from the realm at least there for some direction.

Can't wait till we get the long speculated 'Big Announcement' from the WB regarding all their recent decisions. It'll at least be better talk than this ridiculous half decade long fight between Tom Welling supporters and detractors....it's hard to imagine how we STILL get into the same, tired old fights year after year.

And for the life of me, I don't know why you guys keep taking the bait...Certain poster(s) will always find a way to bring up SR/BR in here. It's quite ridiculous.
 
at this rate with all the problems wb seems to have with getting superman on film they should just have smallville the movie it would be the easiest thing to do right now.
 
Oh come on, you really gonna play this game? You KNOW someone is going to post a quote from TIME or something just to spite that comment...gaining us, nothing.

Come on Raku, we both know that sides have been divided well before Singer made his movie. Fans can't even agree on what kind of Superman they want, let alone the direction of a film and its ingredients....I've said it before and I"ll say it again, Superman fans are by nature, the most divided group in all the comic fandom.

You've got the Reeve/Donner group, you've got the Smallville group, you've got the "Just be faithful to the comics" group that can't decide Pre/Post among other things, you've now got the SR/Singer group as well...by default, a large sector of people will not be happy with decisions made on any Superman feature, even though it should be the standard for the brand to the general public.

Someone will always feel slighted, and all we get is well.....read the last few pages. No wonder the WB has no idea in what direction to head, the worst thing they could do is listen to the different groups of fans. I mean, just look at the biggest Superman websites out there and their poster agendas....BTN, SHP, Kryptonsite, SHH. They are all over the place in regard to their views and each other. Maybe they already did the best thing they could do and got someone like G.Johns to act as a consultant as has been speculated...its better than solely have one group of the movie dept. making all the decisions regarding input and what would be best for ALL involved, from the penny counters to the kids eating their popcorn.

They've at least taken a step in the right direction it seems. Last time, people said that Singer didn't so much as look at a comic book for inspiration, now you've got a big presence from the realm at least there for some direction.

Can't wait till we get the long speculated 'Big Announcement' from the WB regarding all their recent decisions. It'll at least be better talk than this ridiculous half decade long fight between Tom Welling supporters and detractors....it's hard to imagine how we STILL get into the same, tired old fights year after year.

And for the life of me, I don't know why you guys keep taking the bait...Certain poster(s) will always find a way to bring up SR/BR in here. It's quite ridiculous.

I'm not going to disagree with you. In fact, I think you make a lot of valid points.

I didn't post that EW commenter to prove anything. It just encapsulated how I think the majority of the general public viewed the flick. Sure it's some random dude, but I think a lot of people shared that view. That said, I do not wish to belabor the point.

I do think Geoff Johns coming on as a consultant would be a step in the right direction. Plus, it doesn't hurt that he's connected to Donner, Smallville, the Animated Timmverse, and DC Comics.

If there was one way to bridge all the divides of Super Fandom, Johns would be the one.
 
yea everything i heard about johns he is a great guy and a very good writer for superman among other dc characters. Though i know he does love silver age stuff and for me personally film wise i rather step away from the silver age era of stuff and move into more modern takes on the characters/mythos.
 
If there was one way to bridge all the divides of Super Fandom, Johns would be the one.
Haha, Johns is.... The One.

In other news... great to see Superman fans 'round these parts are getting along so well... barf.
 
Is this thread on surveillance or something? I was going to joke yesterday that the only thing missing was a post from Pickle. Hah! Such a missed opportunity. Oh well.

Anyhoo, interesting article for the current topic at hand:

Variety
12/5/08

Superheroes soar in awards season
Comicbooks no longer kryptonite to kudos
By THOMAS MCLEAN

Superheroes have grown accustomed to striking gold at the box office. Yet now, in a shift that has the entire genre being taken more seriously, they're being discussed in the award season races as well.

"The Dark Knight's" Heath Ledger is near the top of many lists when cinephiles are debating best supporting performances, while Christian Bale and Gary Oldman have also been chatted up for their turns in the film. And what would "Iron Man" have been without Robert Downey Jr.'s take on the man of metal?

"It's been great reading some of these early award-season buzz pieces, to feel like we're crossing some sort of a threshold," says Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios. "Here we are, eight years after the first 'X-Men' film ... and people are realizing that there's quality work going into (superhero movies) that can't be ignored during this season."

It's not new for A-list actors to appear in superhero pics -- Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman helped put 1978's "Superman" and the genre on the cinematic map.

But the current wave of superhero films has begun to attract actors willing to put on the tights for increasingly complex scripts that go beyond simplistic battles between good and evil.

Mike Richardson, who founded Dark Horse Comics and produced such films as "Hellboy II: The Golden Army," says more well-known actors are showing interest in playing superheroes.

"When you have a movie like 'The Dark Knight' that's so successful on so many levels, I think that opens things up for not only subject matter, but it opens the minds of people who play in those movies to the possibilities of (awards for) themselves," he says.

While such well-known characters as those in "Spider-Man," "Superman," "X-Men," "Hulk" and "Fantastic Four" having already made it to the bigscreen, there's no shortage of fan-favorite superheroes still waiting for their shot at a thorough theatrical treatment.

Michael Doran, co-founder and senior editor of the comicbook news site Newsarama, sees the most movie potential for DC Comics' the Flash.

"Superspeed just is so elemental," he says. "The character, especially the Wally West version -- the fast-talking, quick-witted type -- his personality almost matches his superpowers."

Also in the mix: DC and parent company Warner Bros. are further along on "Green Lantern," which could be ready to shoot next year; "Dark Knight" co-writer David Goyer is looking to produce his "Green Arrow" script; and "Billy Batson and the Legend of Shazam!" is set up with helmer Peter Berg attached.

Another perennial candidate, Wonder Woman, remains stuck in development purgatory, while the most Aquaman was able to do was as a fictional film in the TV series "Entourage."

Marvel's immediate plans are more concrete, with "Iron Man 2," "Thor" and "Captain America" leading into a massive "Avengers" film in 2011. Beyond that, Feige says the company is developing a comic called "Runaways," about kid heroes who learn their parents are supervillains. It also has "Doctor Strange" on the horizon.

Doran also sees potential in "Black Panther," about a high-tech African king, and "Sub-Mariner," a long-in-development pic about Marvel's hotheaded underwater monarch.

Casting such roles is tricky. Fans intensely debate among themselves which actors are right for particular characters and have no problem speaking up when they disagree with filmmakers' choices. Fans' discussions often reveal biases toward actors who already have appeared in similar movies.

"In both acting and directing, there are certain directors and certain actors the fanbase are more accepting of," says Richardson.

Among the current fan favorites are "Definitely, Maybe" star Ryan Reynolds as the Flash, Leonardo DiCaprio as Captain America, Ryan Gosling as Green Lantern and Gerard Butler or Clive Owen as Sub-Mariner.

Most of these rumors are debunked as quickly as they ignite, but they still have potency. A recent rumor that Will Smith was set to play Captain America spread so quickly that Marvel had to actively deny it, while James Bond star Daniel Craig recently confirmed to the press that he passed on "Thor."

Feige says neither part has been cast yet, but he explains that Marvel's approach to casting -- exemplified by the choice of Downey as Tony Stark -- is to find actors who can bring more to the table than just a physical resemblance to the comicbook character.

"We do not think about the box office appeal of any name actor, necessarily," he says. "We bet on the box office appeal of the character."

While future films of comicbook characters might not bring the same critical success Downey or Ledger found this year, thesps not being routinely dismissed during awards season because they wore tights or a put on a mask is a big step forward for the genre.

"In the past, you always heard it was very difficult for actors in a comedy to win an Oscar," Feige says. "The idea of a superhero film creating roles that could be considered for best actor or best supporting actor was much more remote than that."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117996935
 
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Well with them ending Smallville in May I think we will hear something soon. IMO I think they are ending SV this season because when they cast Superman this time I don't think they would want 2 Superman running around or maybe because Welling is making that jump to the big screen but I doubt its that.
 
Smallville coming back for Season 9 is up to whether Welling ios resigned or not. The film franchise will have no bearing on that (unless of course they're taking Tom) but even so a new Supes film wont be here until 2012 at the earliest. (assuming Batman 3 comes out in 2011) so whether Tom's in it or not shouldnt impact Smallville which at maximum ends in May 2010.
 
Over in the Superman casting thread in the new Superman section. Someone brought up the Tom's availability issue that was mentioned in TV Guide. Some are freaked that it means he might be cast in the reboot. :)
 
Over in the Superman casting thread in the new Superman section. Someone brought up the Tom's availability issue that was mentioned in TV Guide. Some are freaked that it means he might be cast in the reboot. :)

the 2 timeframes dont exactly jive. A new Supes film wouldnt unspool until Summer 2012 at the earliest (assuming that Levitz' comment about a new Supes film waiting on Batman 3 is accurate and at this point its almost logistically impossible to expect to see bats again until 2011). For a summer 2012 release, a film would start lensing likely in early 2011 at the earliest. A potential 9th season of Smallville would lense between July 2009 and April 2010. There's about a 7 month gap before the new Supes movie filming woulkd even begin.

Of course the above all goes out the window if they have Supes slated for a 2011 release, because then you would have a conflict. But seeing as how Begins came out in 2005 and TDK came out in 2008, I'd assume they'd stay on the same sched with the third film, unless WB sees dollar signs and wants the third film sooner and they were gonna shoot for a 2010 release on Batman 3, but that would mean they'd have to get their butts into production in the next couple months, which I dont see happening based on Nolan's comments.
 
I can see Batman being pushed back. It seems like Nolan is in no rush to produce the film. As much as I want Welling for Supes. I don't think the article means he is doing the movie. That being said...I hope I am wrong. ;)
 
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