Tron Legacy

[jesusmagicka]

Don't know if it's been explained but is it possible that the events in the first Tron had inspired Kevin Flynn ideas to merchandise the characters? since later in the arcade we see Sam going into the secret entrance that's behind a Tron arcade console.

nah really

 

[jesusmagicka]

A lot of people are saying the story is crap, so what's wrong with it?

people have already given reasons. try reading.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A lot of people are saying the story is crap, so what's wrong with it?

Nothing is wrong with the story. In fact, it is quite good. However because the concept is a bit more then your average film, people are calling it too simple or too convoluted. Mainly because they have trouble grasping the simple elegance of it all.

 

[Rac]

Spoiler

Flynn and Clu both die. I'm being completely serious.

Spoiler

Or Kevin just merged with Clu and became one with The Grid. Sort of like Neo.

 

[xmangambit]

I just want to know if the original jingle is in the film e.g.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ldbsoudaA&feature=related

Please please please please make a remixed daft punk'd version of this be in the film!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Spoiler

Or Kevin just merged with Clu and became one with The Grid. Sort of like Neo.

Spoiler

Which if I remember correctly, they said would kill him.

 

[Rac]

Spoiler

Which if I remember correctly, they said would kill him.

Ah, yes. Kevin did explain something like that.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

I might be baked out of my mind, but this movie ruled

 

[Dave McFly]

I saw it and loved it, i left that theater wanting a NEW lightcycle, the 4 wheel car and Olivia Wilde . One thing I noticed that when the title screen came up it only said TRON no Tron Legacy, or did I miss something?

 

[Mace Dolex]

A lot of people are saying the story is crap, so what's wrong with it?

There are bits that are talky here and there but that's to provide explanation of Flynn's whereabouts if you remember in the first Tron it wasn't maybe a good 30 minutes into the movie when the action really starts.

People are just picky they complain if a movie gets too simplistic or complicated.

 

[Rez]

I think this takes the cake of being the wierdest mega budget tentpole film ever.

It's just.. odd. There's some really cool stuff going on, it's pretty, I love looking at it, listening to it, but as a narrative or a movie it's just not normal(or very good). It's an experience, and when people say it's like a ride, this might be one of the few times where that's actually apt.

If anything I was reminded of watching those crazy pretty color shows that my computer puts up for windows media player when I'm playing music. And I could just sit there and watch the colors to some beats.

The story and characters all started out pretty strong and pretty great(for a movie like this anyway). Bruce Boxleitner is fantastic, as is Murphy, and it's a shame they're not in the movie more. The lead kid does well enough- I actually like him much more than most other big budget action leads we've been getting shoved down our throats lately, and Bridges dissappearing is a great hook, even if the technology for his younger self is too weak and distracting. And no, I'm not talking just CLU, so these idiots saying "It's supposed to be that way!" can shut the **** up, because the effect extends to the real world scenes too. There's probably two scenes in the movie where as CLU, it looks good and didn't have me sitting there going "Damn I feel like I'm watching a fairly recent Robert Zemeckis movie."

Anyway, any meaningful structure or good sense of storytelling pretty much gets thrown out the window by the second act, and we're treated to tons of really odd cuts and decisions that make for an incredibly akward storyline. What's at stake IS really hazy.. I never knew the entire time what would happen to Flynn if he was "killed" in the grid.. would he just pop back into reality? Or does he just dissappear into tiny blocks forever? I don't know. Everyone seems to be making a big deal about how great the opening games are.. I thought it was pretty lame to have Flynn beat, uh, everyone. He's there 5 minutes, he should have got his ass handed to him. Especially considering that he faces TRON. Spoiler. But we don't know it's TRON until the end.. and he goes from evil to good for no reason. Whatever. My head hurts thinking about it.

I will say that I don't know where people are getting this "no action" thing from.. the entire fricking movie is action. It's basically a chase film, they run one place and get chased and get in a fight and go to the next place and get in a fight through the whole damn movie. I was prepping myself for 45 minutes of nothing but talking somewhere in the middle, instead I got asskicking after asskicking. That scene in the club was great! And no one seems to mention it in pretty much any of the reviews that I've read. God forbid there's 5 minutes of screentime in a row where characters sit down and talk. Granted, the talking could have been better, but it's not awful.

Anyway, I want to see it again while still in IMAX... because it makes for a great experience but unless I become a millionare and can afford my own private theater like Bill Murray, I probably won't dig it too much on my tv screen.

 

[Mr. Para-Normal]

I always get bothered when people say stuff like that.

That means that anything pre-1986, you can't watch? No Godfather, no Star Wars, etc?

Yes I saw the original star wars trilogy. I just never got around to seeing the first Tron movie for reasons I don't really know lol. I have seen clips or bits and pieces from it. Just because I was born in 87 doesn't mean I wouldnt watch movies before my time. I was just saying I never saw the first Tron in theaters because I wasn't born yet.

Anyway I am already have my tickets for the 10pm showing tonight. I will post my thoughts after I see it!

 

[MadVillainy]

I saw this at the midnight showing but didnt get a chance to post until now. It was awesome. The visuals were awesome, the music was awesome, the characters were awesome.
-I only wish there were more lightcycle stuff
-I kept hearing that Olivia Wilde was this cool warrior type girl. But watching the film I didnt really see that. Not that she wasnt good, I just thought I was going to get a character more badass
-And Hedlund who I heard was dull in the film was pretty good to me
-The whole criticism of Kevin Flynn basically being The Dude is bogus to me

I really enjoyed this. It wasnt as good as I thought, but still good. 7/10

 

[Dave McFly]

quick question I could not stay for the credits, what was the 2 songs that play in Flynn's arcade when Sam turns on the power, I know one is probably journey or survivor (not sure which) but there is another song that plays when he goes downstairs and for the life of me I cannot remember it .

 

[블라스]

Nothing is wrong with the story. In fact, it is quite good. However because the concept is a bit more then your average film. people are calling it too simple or too convoluted. Mainly because they have trouble grasping the simple elegance of it all.

So it doesn't matter that they didn't like the story and gave absolutely valid reasons; they are wrong for thinking it's too simple/convoluted (way to cover both bases there) AND they don't *get* the "simple elegance" of the movie?

Got it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So it doesn't matter that they didn't like the story and gave absolutely valid reasons; they are wrong for thinking it's too simple/convoluted (way to cover both bases there) AND they don't *get* the "simple elegance" of the movie?

Got it.

I have not heard one convincing argument for disliking the story. Dialogue? Fine, but the story? Not one.

If you think you have a valid point please point me in the direction of your reasons. I would find it more then enjoyable to tear them apart.

 

[블라스]

I don't really do this kind of thing anymore, it's useless.
I just found your post condescending, with all due respect.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't really do this kind of thing anymore, it's useless.
I just found your post condescending, with all due respect.

And your post is my exact point. Complaining without reason. If you want to complain about my post, perhaps you could actually provide a counterpoint to it.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

you know what thats bull-.... why does Avatar get away with having a dry story and pure visuals ...but something 'cool' like tron cant? and Tron had even more creative visuals.

Easy. Avatar had something called "emotional connection". Cameron's specialty.

Avatar is just overrated because it's James Cameron, if I were 5 years old I'd probably be giddy about it.

Looking at its box office, even a five year old can see far more people than their age group liked it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Easy. Avatar had something called "emotional connection". Cameron's specialty.

Cameron stopped connecting emotionally with T2. Since them it is been boring, soapy cliched sadness.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Cliched maybe, but effective.

 

[Theweepeople]

I'm going to see this soon so it's time to ask some of my usual questions.

1. Was your theater packed?

2. What was the crowd reaction to the film?

3. Did the film have enough action for you?

4. Does it end in a way that sets up the possibility for a great sequel?

5. Are there any slow or boring moments in the film?

I think that's enough for now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Cliched maybe, but effective.

I have never found the cliched effective. Reinvention? Sure. I haven't liked a Cameron movie since True Lies.

 

[Passdom]

Cameron stopped connecting emotionally with T2. Since them it is been boring, soapy cliched sadness.

What you just posted is factually incorrect, just FYI.

You could ammend your post by stating that his movies stopped emotionally connecting to YOU. But to say they stopped doing that period is utterly false, and anyone with at least one functioning neuron would realise that the emotions his films create are the reasons why they are so successful.

 

[MadVillainy]

where do you guys see them going if there is a sequel