Tron Legacy

[The Navigator]

It's a nice trailer.

 

[CGHulk]

the problem was not the money.

in Benjamin a young Brad was doing motion capture for a fat old Benjamin.

The motion capture that Brad did was only for when Benjamin was a feeble young boy, from the neck up. As a CG head on a real persons body. The scenes where he was grown and old was all makeup.

but they also de-aged brad from a 40-something to a 20-something pretty realistically...

That effect was done using a 2D approach, using photos of a younger Brad.
The same approached was used on X-Men 3.

 

[craigdbfan]

Maybe I'm just not up on Tron lore, but why is

Spoiler

Tron renamed "Rinzler" when Clu re-appropriates him? Does the name have some sort of significance besides being a misidentifier?

Naw, other than it sounding kind of menacing and futuristic thats about as deep as it gets with the name.

Awesome name though. Loved Rinzler in Legacy.

I don't think so...

By the way, I'm re-editing the original Tron to sound and look more like the new one - the trailer is done in the style of the Tron: Legacy Teaser (the music took 30 cuts from the soundtrack to reproduce!!!! )

TRON: Liberty Teaser
[YT]kzH-umifowg[/YT]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzH-umifowg

So freaking awesome man. I liked this better than the other Tron trailer re done in a modern way.

Love the ending. "Sark I got a little challenge for you"

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Thanks! I've actually been trying to get in contact with that guy to help me create a new introduction - similar to the title cards he used, and a cross between the original one and the one in Legacy. Still haven't heard back...

 

[Mike_D202]

I really enjoyed this film. Saw it twice.

 

[cheungcheung]

That effect was done using a 2D approach, using photos of a younger Brad.
The same approached was used on X-Men 3.

interesting... i didn't think it looked very good in X-Men 3. but was impressed with Benjamin Button.

 

[rashad]

Weekend Estimates

TL came in 3rd this weekend.
$20,107,000 -54.3% $88,296,000

Domestic: $88,296,000 79.3%
+Foreign: $23,000,000 20.7%
=Worldwide: $111,296,000

Foreign numbers will be updated later. It looks like it'll finish in the $300M range worldwide.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

That's pretty bad. No Tron 3. Sorry, guys. I know some of you were looking forward to it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm sure the holiday landing where it did hurt the film and maybe the weather but that drop shows that Tron is no Avatar or even Avatar-lite. It should rebound a little next weekend and the New Years grosses should be decent but after that I think that it is dead.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Even with the holiday, 54% drop. Not good for this film. The drops will only get steeper.

 

[Symbiotic]

That's pretty bad. No Tron 3. Sorry, guys. I know some of you were looking forward to it.

You don't know that.

 

[WarBlade]

You don't know that.

Haha, yeah.

Wait for a couple of weeks into January kiddies. At least then something approximating actually numbers will be rolling in when people are back from holidays and partying.

Then you guys can make your uneducated and terrible guesses about the subject you know very little about.

 

[dark_b]

You don't know that.

maybe in 20 years. but not in the next 3 years.

if this movie would at leaast have 95% positive word of mouth with this kind of BO i could see disney making another one.

but right now? people are saying that its ''meh'' and the BO is meh.

its over.

its not like it deserves a sequel for the general public

 

[Primal Slayer]

There is still merchandising, wouldnt be surprised if there is a 3quel. But it wraps the story up just fine if there isnt.

Just saw this yesterday and it was ok, but it just brought me back to the days of Reboot and wishing that were made into a movie. Agreed about the deaging effects, I could tell that they cgied his face to make him look younger.

 

[spider-neil]

That's pretty bad. No Tron 3. Sorry, guys. I know some of you were looking forward to it.

batman begins got a sequel with a $375m WW (box office mojo) take.

 

[superion]

It doesn't take a genius to know this film's domestic box office will be mediocre. Given the 54% drop it will be lucky to make $130 million domestic. The foreign box office is underwhelming as will.

With $300 million spent on production and advertising Disney will be eating a big loss here. Throw in the loss from Tangled because of its huge budget ($260 million) and Bruckheimers two summer bombs Prince of Persia and Sorcerers Apprentice and its been a tough 6 months for Disney.

 

[PreK]

batman begins got a sequel with a $375m WW (box office mojo) take.

...but with significantly better prospects for the sequel and higher word of mouth that led to an above-average multiplier. Neither of which Tron can rely on at this point.

 

[spider-neil]

...but with significantly better prospects for the sequel and higher word of mouth that led to an above-average multiplier. Neither of which Tron can rely on at this point.

'above average multiplier' can you explain that to me please.

 

[rashad]

Tron: Legacy, Disney's high-budget 3D sequel to 1982's Tron, which captured $26.6 million from 5,475 venues in 34 territories, boosting its box office total so far to $65.5 million after two rounds on the foreign circuit.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fockers-mild-opening-winter-storms-65781

That puts Legacy at $153.7M worldwide.

 

[PreK]

'above average multiplier' can you explain that to me please.

Via The-Numbers:

Internal Multiplier
A film's weekend box office divided by its Friday number. It's basically a measure of the film's word-of-mouth, with 3.0 being the best most films can get these day while 2.3 is generally the bottom rung. Certain films have an inherent advantage (like those aimed kids), while the Fanboy Effect can shrink the number as the hardcore fans flock to the movie on Friday.


Multiplier
A film's total box office divided by its opening weekend box office. Another measure of the film's word-of-mouth but with a much wider range of possibilities. Films with below 2.0 are not unheard of, while 6.0 or more are a possibility. Just as a side note, not too long ago films with a multiplier of 10 or more were quite common, but the economics have changed and a big opening weekend is too important to the studios and the home market shortens a film's legs.

I believe BB's multiplier was around 4 -- well above the performance of a summer blockbuster. Of course, this was helped by the fact it had a fairly 'standard' opening weekend. But it had excellent word-of-mouth all the same.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Batman is also a viable solid guaranteed franchise. Tron isn't. Tron 1 was a flop. Tron 2 did much better, but it's still not solid enough footing for Disney to be making Tron 3 and a Tron cartoon/TV series.

This project as a series is DOA.

 

[cheungcheung]

With $300 million spent on production and advertising Disney will be eating a big loss here. Throw in the loss from Tangled because of its huge budget ($260 million) and Bruckheimers two summer bombs Prince of Persia and Sorcerers Apprentice and its been a tough 6 months for Disney.

i thought tangled was doing surprisingly well for disney....

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes, big budget movies that did alright but not gangbuster numbers have gotten (or are about to get) sequels. Batman Begins had good word of mouth and the DVD sale pushed it over the edge so WB decided to make a sequel. Star Trek is in the same situation. The problem with Tron isn't even really it's boxoffice numbers, it's the fact that word of mouth is not exactly good. I suppose good DVD sales could cause Disney to make a sequel.

I'm sure the Stormy weather is hurting it domestically and overseas but Avatar had to contend with bad weather too and it did amazingly. If everybody loved Tron, it wouldn't have dropped 54% this weekend. I'm still taking a wait and see approach when it comes to it's total but it's obvious that this film isn't going to be some mega blockbuster and Disney has been advertising for it for over a year and surely expected more.

I'm still not saying that 200mil won't happen because it could with holiday legs but how much Disney shoved this thing into peoples faces and the fact that 3D tickets cost a s**t load you would think that Tron would have 275mil domestic in the bag. Oh well, maybe it's final gross will be good enough for Disney.

 

[Mr. Credible]

I still don't see how this movie isn't doing better at the box office... this ought to be the kind of movie people go to the movies for.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think that it's a particularly well made film. I mean, I didn't care for Avatar but there is no doubt that Cameron knows how to make a bockbuster film. IMHO it was clear that the Tron director and screenwriters had no idea what they were doing.

The movie looked pretty and thats it. There is a such a thing as well made garbage and Tron was not well made garbage. I never thought that Tron was going to be the next LOTR's, Harry Potter or Avatar. Domestically, it's actually doing a little better than I thought it would.