Tron Legacy

[JAK®]

Does this chick look like a program to you? Cmon, give me a break, that looks like something you might actually see someone wearing while riding on a motorcycle.

Is this a joke? Are you pulling our leg?

 

[Deaths Head II]

Does this chick look like a program to you? Cmon, give me a break, that looks like something you might actually see someone wearing while riding on a motorcycle.

"Movie Replica"
"Motorcycle Suit"

 

[Whiskey Tango]

that looks like something you might actually see someone wearing while riding on a motorcycle.

You don't say.

 

[JAK®]

Even if that wasn't a picture of an actual motorcycle suit, since when did TRON have nothing to do with motorcycles?

 

[Deaths Head II]

Even if that wasn't a picture of an actual motorcycle suit, since when did TRON have nothing to do with motorcycles?

Plus one main factor to the look of the costumes is the sleek design. Picking a more loose fitting leather replica isn't a good way to make a point.

 

[zanos]

The bottomline is the outfits in Tron Legacy are just clothes. How are the "programs" any different from you or me once they take them off? It's not like the clothes are what makes you a program, and that's why black leather with neon glow striping on the arms and legs is completely inappropiate.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Even if that wasn't a picture of an actual motorcycle suit, since when did TRON have nothing to do with motorcycles?

Ahaha pwnd.






Alright, allow me to put an end to this discussion;

The grid uses the main interface of video games - which is why Kevin Flynn was the main mastermind behind it all before Encom stole it from him - he was a game programmer and a hacker; he combined the two mediums into a seamless grid-world, later developments presented the technology to transmit real objects into the 3D grid.


Alright now lets examine a couple things, shall we? We know that the game/grid graphics look better in the digital world than when looked at from outside - see the opening shot of the first Tron movie.

Why do programs look like people to begin with? They don't... they're supposed to have the same base interface of video game characters on the grid - why? Because their encom servers are merged - and to have MCP moderate all the programs' activities and to make sure they were following standard procedure, they were made to be able to move, interact and govern throughout the game-grid.

Now if game graphics from the likes of pre-tetris to freaking Crysis in our world, imagine the freaking jump in graphics in there world - then imagine comparing the Light Cycle game graphics (from the film) to the light cycles in the grid, and then look at a game like Crysis... what do you think the graphics are gonna look like? BAM - Tron Freaking Legacy.

Still hell bent on the clothes not looking like the originals? The original suits were tights with light up piping - the new suits are... tights with light-up piping... what do you know!?

Why the difference in colour? Consider how much less a computer has to process for dark tones and blacks than whites... take this as your stupid little realistic explanation as to the colour change.

Why is the material different? Because the games are more dangerous - think of all the new kinds of games out now - dog fight games, fighting games, games with parcour, games with action, games with sword fights and lightsaber fights and FPS games - now you can bet all of these games being brought onto the grid will mean and enhancement in equipment.




If you STILL want to flame and troll, go play the DS version of TRON: Evolution (a DIRECT sequel to TRON), then play the Wii version (sequel to DS version), then the PS3/360 version (sequel to the Wii game) then watch TRON: Legacy (direct sequel to the PS3/360 game) - it'll explain the difference in graphics, aesthetics, design, new elements, even the change in the music - I'm not lying. Go play those and it'll answer all your questions.



Now please stop flaming so I can say what I came in here to say!!!



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[Asteroid-Man]

The bottomline is the outfits in Tron Legacy are just clothes. How are the "programs" any different from you or me once they take them off? It's not like the clothes are what makes you a program, and that's why black leather with neon glow striping on the arms and legs is completely inappropiate.

As opposed to beige spandex with neon glow striping? Have you even seen the original? The clothes doesn't matter - the clothes acts as a couple of things:

1. It connects them to the circuit board
2. It records their activities (on the disc, I know - but nonetheless...)
3. It acts as equipment for games.

What makes them a program is what their "occupation" in the grid is - not the CLOTHES.

 

[Deaths Head II]

The bottomline is the outfits in Tron Legacy are just clothes. How are the "programs" any different from you or me once they take them off? It's not like the clothes are what makes you a program, and that's why black leather with neon glow striping on the arms and legs is completely inappropiate.

What? How does the clothes not making you a program make those clothes inappropriate? I don't understand this argument at all.

Even the 80s programs were just guys in clothes with neon lights on them. How were the 80s programs different from humans aside from their clothes? Their paler skin? If everyone had pale skin would you say "Now that's a program. That doesn't look like a human in futuristic clothing at all"?

 

[zanos]

What? How does the clothes not making you a program make those clothes inappropriate? I don't understand this argument at all.

Perhaps grossly inadequate is a better term or in this case, phrase.

Even the 80s programs were just guys in clothes with neon lights on them. How were the 80s programs different from humans aside from their clothes? Their paler skin? If everyone had pale skin would you say "Now that's a program. That doesn't look like a human in futuristic clothing at all"?

The programs didn't wear clothes in Tron. They had bodies of glowing "circuitry." They didn't wear jackets and pants that zipped up. Flynn was the only program to actually wear some kind of clothing, although I'm not quite sure why. Perhaps it was to distinguish himself from all the other programs, for the sake of the audience.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Perhaps grossly inadequate is a better term or in this case, phrase.



The programs didn't wear clothes in Tron. They had bodies of glowing "circuitry." They didn't wear jackets and pants that zipped up. Flynn was the only program to actually wear some kind of clothing, although I'm not quite sure why. Perhaps it was to distinguish himself from all the other programs, for the sake of the audience.

Read my above statement. It will clear up your concern - and if you continue to lash out like this you're obviously just trolling.

 

[JAK®]

It's all moot because this is 30 years after the original Tron, so the programs have changed since then.

 

[dark_b]

you know why the clothes from the first Tron dont look cool? because its a movie from the 80's. we are over 20 or 30 years old and the movie was made in the 80's.but in hte 80's it loked cool and futuristic.

we need to look this in context.

the new leather clothes are deisgned to work with the new Tron enviorment. so black on black with gloving lights. plus they are made to look cool. like they were in the 80's.

in 2040 and 2050 kids and adults will look on this movie and they will not think it looks cool and sleek. the fashion will change and the look of our lives will change.

 

[zanos]

Read my above statement. It will clear up your concern - and if you continue to lash out like this you're obviously just trolling.

It's called having an opinion, maybe you've heard of the concept, you'll see alot of them on a message board. And as for your suggestion, it doesn't clear up anything. That's just your own convoluted interpretation. The simplest and most obvious answer is that the producers probably felt black leather makes everything look "cool" so they went with it. Unfortunately that's not Tron to me; it's their version of the Matrix with glow bands on the arms and legs of their clothes. It's just shotty work, the suits look low budget.

 

[JAK®]

Well since you demonstrated earlier that you seem to be confused as to what the costumes actually look like, I'll disregard your opinion, sir.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

It's called having an opinion, maybe you've heard of the concept, you'll see alot of them on a message board. And as for your suggestion, it doesn't clear up anything. That's just your own convoluted interpretation. The simplest and most obvious answer is that the producers probably felt black leather makes everything look "cool" so they went with it. Unfortunately that's not Tron to me; it's their version of the Matrix with glow bands on the arms and legs of their clothes. It's just shotty work, the suits look low budget.

Have you even seen the matrix?!

Look, the costumes are simple - tights and lights. The new suits aren't even leather... And the old suits fit with the old tron grid, the new ones fit with the new tron grid - they're different systems.

And the suits look low budget? Are you ****ting me? If anything the budgets for those suits alone are probably more than the budget on Darth Vader's suit from Star Wars.

Seriously dude, there's a difference between having an opinion and trolling.

 

[AgentRed]

I don't like the suits either, i don't like the forced sexyness of everything. You could easily replace the suits from the G.I Joe movie with these ones cause they're both generic.

 

[zanos]

Have you even seen the matrix?!

Look, the costumes are simple - tights and lights. The new suits aren't even leather... And the old suits fit with the old tron grid, the new ones fit with the new tron grid - they're different systems.

And the suits look low budget? Are you ****ting me? If anything the budgets for those suits alone are probably more than the budget on Darth Vader's suit from Star Wars.

It's your standard generic superhero suit with a couple of glowing stripes on it and a disc on the back. Am I supposed to be impressed by that regardless of how much they're spending on them?

Seriously dude, there's a difference between having an opinion and trolling.

It's a shame you don't understand the concept of opinions.

 

[BlackLantern]

the original film costumes were interesting looking, but they were also unique for their time because no one had really seen a film like that before

this film does not really have that advantage of "new", I think they look fine and fit in that grid or world or whatever its called

 

[That-Guy]

I have to admit, I'm a bit shocked by the last couple pages in this thread. I thought that, generally, most of the concerns with this film dealt with potential flaws in the story and the direction, but everyone was pretty much unanimous in thinking that it looks great.

I personally LOVE the costume designs. I don't know jack about fashion, but I'd give the costume design Oscar to Tron Legacy in a heartbeat, though I know that there's no chance of that happening since I'm sure there was some boring movie about the French Revolution that came out this year, at some point.

Anyway, I think you could make the argument for either case... that the new costumes look they way they do since technology has evolved.... or that they look less like computer programs to make it more audience accessible. But I'm not sure that either explanation is a bad one.

Computers and video games for that matter, are always pushing the envelope to create more realistic imagery... half of the PS3 games that come out these days look more like movies than video games, and that will only continue to improve. So in the world of Tron, which should look 100 times more advanced than your best PS3 game, the characters should look totally realistic. And as for making it more acessible to the audience... like people already said, the first Tron WAS a flop. They NEED this movie to be a hit with all of the cash they've dumped into it. So anything they can do to appeal to a broad range of people, they have to. If they had made the characters look as robotic as they did in the original, it might have turned people off. But most of the people I've talked to (with a few exceptions) think that the costumes look damned cool.

 

[corby]

It's pretty obvious that the programs in the first movie were wearing clothes as evidenced by the fact that Yori changes into a different outfit in this deleted scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nED_W7NA2Vs

 

[zanos]

It's pretty obvious that the programs in the first movie were wearing clothes as evidenced by the fact that Yori changes into a different outfit in this deleted scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nED_W7NA2Vs

No that is not evidence of that. What it is evidence of is that they can alter their appearance. But in Tron legacy everyone appears to be wearing actual clothes. There's a big difference. Maybe there's a GAP or something in the grid as well. Those freaking stores are everywhere.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Wait a second... you actually think that in the grid, the suits are APART of the programs - like you think the suits are what makes them programs?

 

[JAK®]

Zanos is trolling us. Everybody stop responding to him now.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Zanos is trolling us. Everybody stop responding to him now.

Word.

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