Tron Legacy

[M.O.Steel]

This was very noticeable too. So many people have criticized that the black reflective gloss for the entire world was cool for a second but got tiring the next? Some have also called the world somewhat lacking in landscape architecture creativity?

Thats so ridiculous. I'd like for anyone to look at a good architects concept art and they'll see the use of repetition with symmetrical designs that compliment each other.

The only thing I've found tiring about this movie are the criticisms that are all so damn reaching.

we have to stop this extremism. it's not like you either love or hate it. people are allowed to have degrees of love/hate for something. there is nothing such as universally liked or disliked, even if it's a movie like godfather or battlefield earth.

you can't be upset every time someone says they don't like a movie, or they don't share the same enthusiasm as you. I liked Avatar, but it not deserve the monetary rewards nor the awards in any sense of word. to even be considered for an Oscar for best picture is utterly absurd?? but i don't feel the need to go out of my way to tell everyone i don't like it.

You liked the movie, and it meant a lot to you. that was the point. there's no reason to get upset with the other side. you shouldn't really feel good if someone said nice things about it either. if you like it, that's whats important. the point of these threads is to discuss the movie, things you liked, things you would improve, why you liked it, why you hate it, where can i get the soundtrack, how much are the identity discs, spin-off ideas.

I'm not going to use specific examples (there is at least one or two in each page of the Legacy thread) as I don't want to start an argument or undermine someone else's opinion but these "critiques" when it comes to a lot of aspects of the film could be applied to so many movies that I love but have gotten a ton of love from both the GA and critics that its ridiculous.

Legacy's reception will always be a mystery to me as there have been films that have been accepted by both movie goers and critics alike that have way more editing, structural, and plot issues along with serious acting problems or lack of vision but for some reason they get a "pass" or people decide that that certain director meant to do that for a certain reason or leaving certain plot details vague and fans calling it "masterful and genius".

it is not ridiculous to be criticized for certain aspects that you wouldn't hold against other movies. in fact, if anything, it should be flattering to the movie makers that they are even held to such standards instead of just being brushed off as pop-corn entertainment.

Don't know if people think they are entitled to almost **** on the movie because this is Kosinski first film but let me tell you it sure seems that way as people are giving a man with so much talent "tips" its just too hilarious, he doesn't need to read my BS praise or others BS criticism but just needs self refinement and mainly a better script. There's only so much he can do with pacing when he is handed with a fairly barebones script. That was his main gripe about the entire production, he said he'd rather have a completed screenplay the next go around instead of writing it while filming.

I really hope he doesn't listen to the criticisms but rather he himself find what he personally found dragged down certain parts of the film (which are mainly script attributed). Not all these petty excuses for "critiques".

Sorry had to get that out.

if you write a book, and no one ever reads it, does it really matter? other than some sense of self-satisfaction, it doesn't. Nolan, when he made inception, said that he kept it ambiquios on purpose so that the audience can interpret the way they like it. when asked if there was a definite answer, he said yes, but he would never share it.

the audience plays the biggest portion of movie-making process. even more than money, because some box-office failures become gigantic cult favorites or DVD sales, and box-office successes may become forgotten. movies are made to entertain us, and people are allowed to not like something, whether its throwing tomatoes at the play actors, or writing reviews on a blog. the effort is important, but the final product defines the success.

Kosinski is a first time film-maker, but i can assure you that he worked extremely hard to get to that point, and it is an opportunity most people in this world will never EVER get. so yes, not only should he be held to a high standard, I am sure he wouldn't want it any other way.

 

[venom892]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mus...unks-path-to-tron-legacy-not-an-easy-one.html

Interview with Daft Punk about the soundtrack.

 

[Crockett]

It's amazing.Daft Punk outdid themselves.It just sucks if you wnat all the songs you have to get some from Amazon,Itunes,etc.They should have just released at least a special edition with all the tracks.One of the best songs Castor isn't even on the U.S. release CD.

I love the bonus tracks, particurly "Outlands, Part II", "Castor" and "Father and Son" although I'm missing out "Sunrise Prelude".

 

[Electrofarce]

The move was great entertainment, but I hope it does not win Oscar for SFX beacuse both Inception and Alice in Wonderland (and I don't like Alice) had better CG.

Inception has a chance (but had very little CGI), but to say Alice in Wonderland had better CGI than Tron: Legacy is just laughable. Alice in Wonderland in my opinion was the worst attempt at CGI/ live action I've seen in the past 2 years. Everything in it looked like a cartoon and it won't make the top nominees at the academy, that I can guarantee you. Tron's effects at some parts were better than Avatar and even though it wasn't that great of a movie the VFX were groundbreaking. I think it will be Inception, Tron: Legacy, and Harry Potter with the nominations. Tron: Legacy will most likely take home the award.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not even going to hate on Graigbfan regarding his post. I don't agree with him but it's clearly something that he wanted to get off of his chest and he did.

If TL is nominated, I doubt it takes home the award. The award isn't for "best or most obvious use of CGI" it's best visual effects and Inception clearly had the best this year. AIW looked like s**t and doesn't even deserve a nom.

 

[Electrofarce]

I'm not even going to hate on Graigbfan regarding his post. I don't agree with him but it's clearly something that he wanted to get off of his chest and he did.

If TL is nominated, I doubt it takes home the award. The award isn't for "best or most obvious use of CGI" it's best visual effects and Inception clearly had the best this year. AIW looked like s**t and doesn't even deserve a nom.

I'll be happy if either Tron or Inception wins. But Tron had absolutely terrific particle and reflective effects and the live-action was really seamlessly intertwined. Jeff Bridges looked pretty good most of the time as well. Considering it was a human face they were working with, they did a great job.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought that Dig-Bridge looked bad most of the time. I never took that character seriously because it (almost) never looked even remotely real. To each his/her own though.

 

[Electrofarce]

I thought that Dig-Bridge looked bad most of the time. I never took that character seriously because it (almost) never looked even remotely real. To each his/her own though.

The mouth is what turned me off at first, but then some later shots really sold me. Especially when he was searching through Flynn's home.

 

[M.O.Steel]

yeah the mouth was the weirdest, but the rest was really good. i thought the effects were pretty good.

 

[Darkness Falls]

saw it again yesterday
still love it, picked up on things i missed last time

wilde was pretty much the heart of the movie i thought

8/10

 

[Darkness Falls]

Picked up the delux identity disc yesterday at k-mart

 

[M.O.Steel]

badass

 

[Karelia]

I read it's making record IMAX numbers, which is great.

 

[The Caped Knight]

From a technological standpoint the film is visually a very impressive achievement.

In other news
Elijah Wood lends voice to 'Tron' animated spinoff series

A 10-part animated series is in the works and will feature the voices of actors Elijah Wood, Paul Reubens and Bruce Boxleitner, who played Tron in both the original 1982 movie and the latest incarnation.

 

[CGHulk]

Tron’s “Rinzler” Has Lucasfilm Connection

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2010/12/17/tron’s-“rinzler”-has-lucasfilm-connection/

Friends told me about the fact that there’s this character Rinzler in the new Tron movie,” says Rinzler. “So I went online to see if I could figure out where they got the name. But I couldn’t find anything. There aren’t many Rinzlers in the States and it’s not a name that means anything, as far as I know… Then when Joe Kosinski came as a guest speaker I was actually on my way to the event before I realized this might be a chance to ask him. So I waited till after the q-and-a, went down to the front, and said I had a strange question but had to ask where he got the name, or where the writers got the name. And he said that he was sitting with the two writers working, and there was a book on the table ‘a Making of’ he said… ‘Oh yeah, it was Making of Star Wars by someone named Rinzler.’ So I said ‘that’s me’, thanked him, shook his hand and said I had to go out and buy a few action figures — needless to say, my kids are thrilled.”

 

[M.O.Steel]

cool story. haha

 

[The Navigator]

Tron’s “Rinzler” Has Lucasfilm Connection

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2010/12/17/tron’s-“rinzler”-has-lucasfilm-connection/

Ah, cool.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This was very noticeable too. So many people have criticized that the black reflective gloss for the entire world was cool for a second but got tiring the next? Some have also called the world somewhat lacking in landscape architecture creativity?

Thats so ridiculous. I'd like for anyone to look at a good architects concept art and they'll see the use of repetition with symmetrical designs that compliment each other.

The only thing I've found tiring about this movie are the criticisms that are all so damn reaching.

I'm not going to use specific examples (there is at least one or two in each page of the Legacy thread) as I don't want to start an argument or undermine someone else's opinion but these "critiques" when it comes to a lot of aspects of the film could be applied to so many movies that I love but have gotten a ton of love from both the GA and critics that its ridiculous.

Legacy's reception will always be a mystery to me as there have been films that have been accepted by both movie goers and critics alike that have way more editing, structural, and plot issues along with serious acting problems or lack of vision but for some reason they get a "pass" or people decide that that certain director meant to do that for a certain reason or leaving certain plot details vague and fans calling it "masterful and genius".

Don't know if people think they are entitled to almost **** on the movie because this is Kosinski first film but let me tell you it sure seems that way as people are giving a man with so much talent "tips" its just too hilarious, he doesn't need to read my BS praise or others BS criticism but just needs self refinement and mainly a better script. There's only so much he can do with pacing when he is handed with a fairly barebones script. That was his main gripe about the entire production, he said he'd rather have a completed screenplay the next go around instead of writing it while filming.

I really hope he doesn't listen to the criticisms but rather he himself find what he personally found dragged down certain parts of the film (which are mainly script attributed). Not all these petty excuses for "critiques".

Sorry had to get that out.

The audience is at the end of the day who you wish to appeal to as a filmmaker. To say the audience is stupid and shouldn't be giving him pointers is BS. This is an industry in which you share your art, and the reception of art is in the eye of the audience. THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE CRITICAL!!! Even if the audience is wrong, they have a right to a voice. Plus, at times, the simple audience who doesn't make films is right and the filmmaker screwed up on what he was trying to do. Happens to even the BEST director. It's his first film, it has flaws. He should listen to the criticism and embrace it, not be snooty and say we're all stupid.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'm not even going to hate on Graigbfan regarding his post. I don't agree with him but it's clearly something that he wanted to get off of his chest and he did.

If TL is nominated, I doubt it takes home the award. The award isn't for "best or most obvious use of CGI" it's best visual effects and Inception clearly had the best this year. AIW looked like s**t and doesn't even deserve a nom.

Thank you for completely understanding where I was coming from.

we have to stop this extremism. it's not like you either love or hate it. people are allowed to have degrees of love/hate for something. there is nothing such as universally liked or disliked, even if it's a movie like godfather or battlefield earth.

you can't be upset every time someone says they don't like a movie, or they don't share the same enthusiasm as you. I liked Avatar, but it not deserve the monetary rewards nor the awards in any sense of word. to even be considered for an Oscar for best picture is utterly absurd?? but i don't feel the need to go out of my way to tell everyone i don't like it.

You liked the movie, and it meant a lot to you. that was the point. there's no reason to get upset with the other side. you shouldn't really feel good if someone said nice things about it either. if you like it, that's whats important. the point of these threads is to discuss the movie, things you liked, things you would improve, why you liked it, why you hate it, where can i get the soundtrack, how much are the identity discs, spin-off ideas.


it is not ridiculous to be criticized for certain aspects that you wouldn't hold against other movies. in fact, if anything, it should be flattering to the movie makers that they are even held to such standards instead of just being brushed off as pop-corn entertainment.




if you write a book, and no one ever reads it, does it really matter? other than some sense of self-satisfaction, it doesn't. Nolan, when he made inception, said that he kept it ambiquios on purpose so that the audience can interpret the way they like it. when asked if there was a definite answer, he said yes, but he would never share it.

the audience plays the biggest portion of movie-making process. even more than money, because some box-office failures become gigantic cult favorites or DVD sales, and box-office successes may become forgotten. movies are made to entertain us, and people are allowed to not like something, whether its throwing tomatoes at the play actors, or writing reviews on a blog. the effort is important, but the final product defines the success.

Kosinski is a first time film-maker, but i can assure you that he worked extremely hard to get to that point, and it is an opportunity most people in this world will never EVER get. so yes, not only should he be held to a high standard, I am sure he wouldn't want it any other way.

It wasn't targeted towards anyone and I frankly didn't want a response but more of a read if anyone cares enough to read it to begin with.

Telling me that I can't express my opinion of the GA and critics misunderstanding of what I personally thought Kosinski successfully convyed in his film comes across as hypocritical.

It's somewhat puzzling as thats what you are saying I'm guilty of yet I never once state in my post that people can't criticize or do whatever the hell they want to write on this thread, thats not for me to decide but for any poster or admin/mod. I made it very clear that I didn't want to bring up any names and wasn't trying to create any sort of direct response.

 

[TheFuture]

I thought that Dig-Bridge looked bad most of the time. I never took that character seriously because it (almost) never looked even remotely real. To each his/her own though.

Agreed, it looked too animated to me, there was nothing all that ground breaking about the CGI.

I liked it anyway, decent film with reliable acting, though Michael Sheen probably had his worst role to date in this. Just a very campy performance that didn't hit any notes for me.

Good sequences and as basic a story as you can but that didn't really bother me. The thing that bothered me most though was probably Tron's redemption at the end, they invested little to no time in making us care about what should have been a monumental moment in the film.

Anyway, yeah, decent film. 6/10.

 

[Cain]

This movie was a great IMAX 3D experience. Like a good theme park ride. Maybe being inebriated helped but I had a good time and I was expecting the worst movie ever based on some critiques. My expectations were very low. The visuals were excellent from the grid to the women. The music surprised me most though. I'm more of an Aphex Twin or Dust Brothers type when it comes to this type of stuff. I don't find most "electronica" to really be creatively melodic. However Daft Punk impressed me alot. I could think of 3 times where I was couldn't help but bop my head and I wasn't the only one in the audience either (the first Rinzler Vs. Sam encounter, the lightcycle chase and when that Castor character is introduced). Enjoyed this far more than I did Inception (without a doubt possibly the most overrated movie of this entire decade and I'm not even a Nolan or Leo hater).

 

[M.O.Steel]

Thank you for completely understanding where I was coming from.



It wasn't targeted towards anyone and I frankly didn't want a response but more of a read if anyone cares enough to read it to begin with.

Telling me that I can't express my opinion of the GA and critics misunderstanding of what I personally thought Kosinski successfully convyed in his film comes across as hypocritical.

It's somewhat puzzling as thats what you are saying I'm guilty of yet I never once state in my post that people can't criticize or do whatever the hell they want to write on this thread, thats not for me to decide but for any poster or admin/mod. I made it very clear that I didn't want to bring up any names and wasn't trying to create any sort of direct response.

my response, even though it was reply to you, was really for everyone as well. i know you didn't call anyone out, and i assumed it wasn't me anyways because i liked the film, so i didn't think it was me or anything. you had interesting things to say, and i wanted to response.

however, you did completely missed the whole point of my post. there is a difference between judging people, and judging the art. there is a difference between, "that movie sucked," and "people who hated the movie is stupid, and i hate them", which i felt you post was doing.

 

[Mike_D202]

I think I'll see it a 3rd time.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

what are the Daft Punk bonus tracks that do not appear on the US release?

 

[dark_b]

this is what i found
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=daft+punk+tron+bonus&aq=f