Mystery/Thriller Twin Peaks: The Entire Mystery

[TheVileOne]

That's a total spitball on my part. I'm not too married to anything regarding predictions with this show because any inkling I might have goes in the complete opposite direction

Granted, I believe I'm following along the story well and I understand what is GENERALLY going on.

For Green, regarding Diane's text message. Is it possible that's just a formatting thing going from one type of phone to the other? I know people have mentioned the lowercase to all caps thing on the text message, but is it possible there is just a simple explanation here?

 

[green]

Oh I agree Vile, you never know where Lynch is going to take this thing and nothing is a sure bet. Speculation here is just that...pure speculation. Heck with Lynch you can get an answer and still not have an answer.

It just seems a jump to have Diane in cahoots with Coopelganger, unless it's him tormenting her.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Criterion Blu-ray and DVD - October 17th

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION:
• Restored 4K digital transfer, supervised by director David Lynch
• 7.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray, supervised by Lynch
• Alternate original 2.0 surround soundtrack, presented in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray
• The Missing Pieces, ninety minutes of deleted and alternate takes from the film, assembled by Lynch
• New interview with actor Sheryl Lee
• Interviews from 2014 by Lynch with actors Lee, Ray Wise, and Grace Zabriskie
• More!
• PLUS: An interview with Lynch from the 2005 edition of filmmaker and writer Chris Rodley’s book Lynch on Lynch

 

[TheVileOne]

Oh I agree Vile, you never know where Lynch is going to take this thing and nothing is a sure bet. Speculation here is just that...pure speculation. Heck with Lynch you can get an answer and still not have an answer.

It just seems a jump to have Diane in cahoots with Coopelganger, unless it's him tormenting her.

Well, based on episode 10, that definitely seems to be the case at the moment. Not only that, Gordon Cole suspected it right after Diane hugged him. He apparently knew even then that something was wrong.

It's hard to believe Diane would do this. But maybe she's been deceived or maybe she is trying to work against Bad Cooper by doing this ultimately. Don't want to speculate too much, but it seems like they are in cahoots, and Cole and Albert know.

 

[green]

yeah, I'm at a loss with Diane...

I am pretty darn sure that Richard Horne has to be Audreys son, now who the heck is his daddy?
Did Coopelganger to bad things while she was in the coma?
It's possible he could be Billy Zanes but I highly doubt that.
Someone else entirely?

 

[TheVileOne]

The obvious implication is that Cooper's doppleganger is his father.

It could be someone else. But Occam's Razor suggest that it's Evil Cooper.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Finally got caught up on this. It perfectly captures the "I can't believe someone gave you money to make this" vibe of David Lynch that I adore so much.

 

[David H.]

Great use of a pie.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Although I'm enjoying the show, I admit I'm getting bored of the Dougie storyline. It's getting to be like some kind of Weekend at Bernie's gag with everyone being oblivious to his complete lack of mental function.

 

[TheVileOne]

The Dougie storyline got boring after the fourth episode. It needs to stop already.

Frost and Lynch are clearly doing this on purpose. And he's going to be like Dougie this whole season.

 

[Zantera]

Yeah I don't expect him to be Coop again until last episode, and what a great feeling that will be when he finally returns. I like Dougie so I don't mind.

Twin Peaks: The Return was always a reference to Coop returning and not the show returning.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I think the problem is with the concept of a 18 hour movie. If we were watching an actual movie, we wouldn't have to wait a week or two for the next major plot development, and TV shows are made in a way that each episode is satisfying enough in a self-contained way that people don't get bored and move on. Like in the original Twin Peaks, you didn't go seven or eight episodes without seeing Ben Horne, and every episode was in part dedicated to his ongoing story. Movies aren't like that, you'll see a character in the first ten minutes, then not again for an hour, then at the end, or you'll only see them in one or two scenes and that's it.

 

[green]

Well that was an interesting way to bring Audrey back...
Is it possible Richard isn't Audreys son but

Spoiler

Donna's (she is Ben Hornes daughter after all)

? I know Vile I'm speculating...cant help it.
I have no idea what to make of Diane and the "Let's Rock!", it's the first thing the little man from another place says and was also written on the window of a car when Agent Chet Desmond disappeared.
Oh and Grace Zabriskie is amazing.

 

[TheVileOne]

Last episode was very frustrating, but Lynch and Frost definitely seem to like to test audiences' patience and threshold levels for this season.

I think it's definitely a possibility with Richard. Where Lynch and Frost are concerned for The Return, I rule nothing out.

I have no idea with the deal for Diane and what her true motives are. My feeling is she could be acting as a double agent looking to get back at evil Cooper, but not sure. I wouldn't bet money on that. She could be loyal to Evil Cooper or got brainwashed by him.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Lynch is just trolling now.

Spoiler

And I love it.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. You got Lynched.

It was an improvement over last week, but not great either. Enough of Dougie already.

Also, it appears that stuff is happening out of order. I could be wrong but some scenes appear to be getting showed out of order. You had Bobby going into the Double R and saying they find some old stuff of his dad's that day. However, how could that have happened when we already saw him go into the Double R in the evening after his daughter's incident with her husband? Because that incident seemed to have taken place after the hidden ampule his father left in the chair was discovered. Something doesn't smell right.

Also, the start of the episode shows Dougie Cooper just getting back from his outing with the Mitchums. It seems he was out all night. But then in just the episode before, we see Sonny Jim trying to play catch with Dougie Cooper in their backyard. In that segment, there's no fancy kid gym set there. It's an empty backyard. So that had to have happened before Mitchums sent the gifts. Did he already go home after they had the pie in the restaurant together and went out with them again?

I feel like scenes are being shown out of order, and that has to be purposeful right?

 

[Dr. Evil]

So yeah, this happened:

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[Guts]

Well that was an interesting way to bring Audrey back...
Is it possible Richard isn't Audreys son but

Spoiler

Donna's (she is Ben Hornes daughter after all)

? I know Vile I'm speculating...cant help it.
I have no idea what to make of Diane and the "Let's Rock!", it's the first thing the little man from another place says and was also written on the window of a car when Agent Chet Desmond disappeared.
Oh and Grace Zabriskie is amazing.

I was looking at the tv tropes page for Twin Peaks and the theory is that

Spoiler

Richard is the son of Audrey and doppelganger Cooper. It was hinted that evil Cooper had raped Diane and Dr. Hayward said the last thing Cooper did before leaving Twin Peaks was visiting a comatose Audrey. Richard being the son of Bob could possibly explain why Richard is the way he is.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's been the working theory for a while. It could also explain some things about Audrey.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Ed's reflection was glitching at the end, holding the soup cup when the real Ed wasn't.

 

[TheVileOne]

So Ed is also a doppleganger?

 

[green]

I was looking at the tv tropes page for Twin Peaks and the theory is that

Spoiler

Richard is the son of Audrey and doppelganger Cooper. It was hinted that evil Cooper had raped Diane and Dr. Hayward said the last thing Cooper did before leaving Twin Peaks was visiting a comatose Audrey. Richard being the son of Bob could possibly explain why Richard is the way he is.

yeah, that seems to be the more popular theory...which is why I was just throwing that other out there...Lynch you know. Plus it was just odd that Audrey wasn't mentioned in the conversation between Ben and the Sheriff about Richard running over the kid.

So Ed is also a doppleganger?

Sarah's reflection is also not quite right in the scene she's in.
I don't think it's a doppelgänger thing.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

It's funny that when they first set out to write the pilot of Twin Peaks, it was not nearly as weird as it has gotten. It was just a murder mystery set in a quirky small town and after a set dresser got trapped in a bedroom set, it turned into a show about alternate dimensions, demons with weird warped voices, supernatural reflections, doppelgangers, faceless monsters, head-crushing lumberjacks, and moth-frog hybrids.

 

[TheVileOne]

Not so sure because some of that weirdness was in the European pilot with the original ending. Some of that footage got repurposed into later in the series.

The original pilot ending had the Man From Another Place, the Black Lodge/Waiting Room, Ghost/Doppleganger/Laura Palmer.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Last night's episode was amazing.