Upon second viewing...

Definitely better on 2nd viewing.
 
I viewed X3 in theatres twice. The first time I watched it I got a tear in my eye during that whole scene with Jean and ProfX. And I was REALLY PISSED when Rogue never showed up in the final battle. Even my mom asked me where Rogue was.
The second time through I knew what to expect, so I was almost indifferent to it. After watching it for the third time on DVD, along with the deleted scenes, I feel a little bit better about it.
I wish they would've added a couple of those deleted scenes (I got all 21). The original scene with the Xmen boarding the XJet was a lot better than the one in the movie. I also liked the extended fight scene at the house. The other version of Jean showcasing her powers to Magneto was pretty cool, but I can understand why they have the scene in the movie also (shows how weak Magneto is compared to Jean).
All in all, I would give the trilogy as a whole probably a B+ or A-. And X3 I would probably give it a B+ or A- as well.
 
AznBABYBANDIT said:
the more you wach it, the better it gets

I just hope it will be true... i think cause LOTS of people said that... :D
 
I like the movie a little bit more upon watching it agian but I hate how Collosus(sp) didnt have any speaking lines even though he was an X-Man.

With the deleted scenes in there it wouldve been so much better.
 
You know what? I really got caught off guard the first time around.

Seeing the trailers after hyping the movie up for 3 years, I expected this epic that would put Return Of The King to shame.

But it didn't happen. Then you add that on top of a bit of a fast pace, and some drastic deviations to the source material (Rogue's curing, Cyclops' death, Wolverine's heroics in the Phoenix Saga) and you walk out of the theatre like "What in the God's name did I just see?!"

But I went back a second time, and yes, everything just clicked a whole lot better the second time around. And I've, in total, seen it 7 times in theatres. I've seen it a few times on my computer. I just watched it last night on DVD. And I'm probably gonna pop it on again tonight while I finish up some homework before I go to bed.

It's a MUCH better movie now than it was the first time I saw it. I would say that it competes with X2 in terms of best in the series.

I think on the whole, X2 has the advantage, just because it doesn't deviate so harshly from the source material like X-Men: The Last Stand does. But, all credit to Bryan Singer for his 2 movies, but the concept behind this one is better than either of Bryan's. I love the cure arc. Beast was handled brilliantly. Much better than Nightcrawler in my opinion. Though underused, I do feel that Juggernaut is the coolest "henchman" villian in the trilogy. Pyro was turned into a badass. ICEMAN ICED UP! Colossus was actually part of the team (although again, severely underused, at least he was there)

And as much as I love X-Men and X2 (and trust me, I love them emensly), I can better visualise X-Men: The Last Stand coming out of an X-Men Legends game, or out of a comic book, a bit better than I can the other 2. All the while, while achieving that, Ratner was successful in keeping the films grounded in reality, and taking it seriously, and allowing it to be taken seriously by the audience.

I won't say that it was neccesarily a flaw on Bryan's part, but I think X-Men: The Last Stand did show that Singer held back a bit. I mean, we DID get some great action sequences in Bryan's movies. But with X-Men: The Last Stand, Ratner let us have some action. He definatley wasn't as conservative in that department.

All in all, I think all 3 movies offer something, both good and bad, that none of the other movies provide. X-Men and X-Men: The Last Stand are almost polar opposites of each other, where as X2 is kind of the medium between the 2. X-Men is nearly all character, where X-Men: The Last Stand is all action, and X2 is a very good balance of action with character.

X-Men: The Last Stand had the best concepts, and many of the trilogies most exciting events, but on the same token also has the most flawed execution. And although many things that I listed above were done brilliantly, it is also the least faithful to the source material. Sadly, it comes at the worst time, as this film is tackling the source material's biggest story arc.

But I agree, it is much better upon a 2nd viewing and beyond. Many of the "hestitancies" I've had towards it have faded away as I've seen the movie more and more. I've become much more accepting of what happens in it. And as I stated, there are many parts of it that make it my favorite.
 
Watching the DVD was also my second viewing. While there are some good things about the movie, on the whole the thing is a complete mess. It is the product of bad writing/directing and poor production.

This movie really makes me question Avi Arad's commitment to bringing the Marvel films to screen. It seems to me, he did nothing to protect the integrity of the characters.
 
Definitely agree with all the points made so far.

I think if none of us had hyped the movie, we probably would have enjoyed it more the first time aswell. As we all had HUGE expectations, it brought it down a bit. (But to be honest, that happened with me for X2 aswell. Liked it alot more on second viewing.)

I've watched X3 about 5 times now and love it even more each time. Yes there were flaws, but X-Men and X2 have them aswell. The runtime doesn't even bother me anymore as I think X2 dragged on a bit too long anyway. Some scenes definitely should not have been deleted and that is my only main annoyance. Apart from that, it's an awesome film. :up:
 
Well I loved the movie the first time I saw it.
But I must say it still gets better and better.
I also still hate it that Rogue is cured but the Alt ending of her is my ending for her in the movies. Our cool Rogue who accepts who she is.
That ending is really really great.
And if I think it trough with Rogue we see her fierce personality.
Like the first Bobby and Rogue scene the "I can't touch my boyfriend withoit killing him, other than that I am wonderful".
The scene where she walks in at Xavier : "Is it true? they can cure us"?
And the Logan and Rogue scene where she wants to be normal I liked that how she said it and that she knows no one feels the same way as her.
And then the Alt ending that would have been the perfect ending. " I couldn't.... I couldn't do it.... I am sorry Bobby....this is me". **** that was great
 
i have to say i really loved rogue in the danger room, too bad we didnt see more
 
It is better upon second veiwing. I fell in love all over again as I watched it at home... even created some new X3 fans in the process. Yesterday my cousin and her friend came over and watched it for the first time and both of them were absolutely entraced by Jean/Phoenix. The fight between her and Prof X had them on the edge of their seats.
 
It's a great movie,but I wish they would of had other characters in more action longer.The fight at Jean's house shouldn't of had Wolverine and Storm there,they should of had Cyclops,Rogue,and Colossus there.

That scene should of been where we see those three x-men characters have a huge battle,since two of them wouldn't be at the final battle.

And Magneto's henchmen should of been Juggernaut,Multiple Man,Quicksilver.We could of seen Rogue use her powers like she has never done before.We could of seen her use Colossus armor/strength,Cyclops's optic blast,Quicksilver's speed,Multiple Man's cloning, while she fight all three henchmen.

We could of seen Cyclops blasting all of the Multiple Man clones with his optic blast.And these two could of had fought hand to hand since they would both don't have super strength.

And this is the scene where we should of seen Colossus vs Juggernaut in a huge battle.They should of thrown cars at each other,through eachother into all the houses on the street.

And Jean could of killed Cyclops there with the Professor.

At the final battle,Magneto should of used his powers when he sees the x-men's blackbird in the sky,and makes the jet crash on the other side of the island.

Then the x-men get out of the jet,and say now how are we gonna get over there.And Iceman ices up and says:follow me,and we see him iceslide across the bay creating a little bridge for the others to walk across.

The Iceman/Pyro fight should of been bigger,more epic.

Iceman freezing Phat,and Colossus pucnching him into pieces should of stayed in the movie.

We should of seen more Beast fighting.There wasn't enough of it,it went by too fast.

Angel should of been in the final battle fighting.We should of seen him dropping out of the sky and diving into other mutants with his fists,we should of seen him pick up mutants and fly them up into the sky and then drop them on the ground.He could of even fought another flying mutant.

The Sentinels should of been used by the military instead of regular soldiers with plastic guns.

They should of left Magneto without his powers for good,it would of been better.The cure should be permanent.

The Professor shouldn't of been in that body of that comma guy.

Colossus should of had more dialogue.
 
Although great ideas, all that would have cost a lot and they never could have achieved it all.
 
I Personally adore the film. Not perfect but still I'm not complaining. The second time I watched it was much better from the first.

Right now I would like to pay homage to the cast because I don't don't thing I will ever see a better one again
 
I just watched it and I hardly changed my opinion. Visually I love it more, but something I can't tolerate is the gullible dialogue. The way the story was transmitted was so classic. So many classic phrases. I don't care about Phoenix w/o a firebird, Wolverine so prominent, Storm w/o long hair or no Beast w/ labcoat. I want to see the characters alive. Feel them, and see that each character is felt by the director himself. (This is just an example) What were the X-Men thinking when they were on the X-Jet? No idea. They just sit there. C'mon! We're the X-Men, b¡tches! We don't have to be afraid, we're strong and tough. Punch, punch.
If it was other movie, okay, I'll give it a pass (like F4) but it was an X-Men movie and we've seen what they've done with the first two. They have some dignity & majesty- but in X3... it was almost like a slap on the face... even Magneto had a bit of funny movements, with fast magician hand tricks and whatever.



Oh and btw, Spain receiving the DVD in November t'was a lie- I rented it today and I must get the 2 disc set!!! (I'm having a very enjoyable birthday week :D )
 
The more I watch it the more im enjoying it but im still posing questions and "what if" scenarios as I go along.

I like finding all these little tidbits though that i missed before like seeing those tiny little dots of storm, juggy, callisto and wolverine exploding out of jeans house when she kills x; i didnt see that at all before along with callistos lips ring glowing red and smoking when storm electrocutes her, i thought that was funny :D
 
I plan on watching all three X-Men movies back to back tonight to see how well they all mesh together as a trilogy. Should be fun and intresting.
 
Celestio said:
Definitely agree with all the points made so far.

I think if none of us had hyped the movie, we probably would have enjoyed it more the first time aswell. As we all had HUGE expectations, it brought it down a bit. (But to be honest, that happened with me for X2 aswell. Liked it alot more on second viewing.)

I've watched X3 about 5 times now and love it even more each time. Yes there were flaws, but X-Men and X2 have them aswell. The runtime doesn't even bother me anymore as I think X2 dragged on a bit too long anyway. Some scenes definitely should not have been deleted and that is my only main annoyance. Apart from that, it's an awesome film. :up:

I think you're totally right.

Instead of sitting in the theatre, thinking "HOLY CRAP! THAT WAS THE DANGER ROOM!"

It's like "Meh, saw that coming"

Colossus didn't get to do anything outside of his cameo in X2... seeing his role in X-Men: The Last Stand, we all would have been stoked to have him on the team, in the final battle. Instead, it was "Meh, we know. He needs to do stuff now"

Instead of the thrill of actually SEEING this stuff, that thrill got ruined spending our time online hyping it. Now, we expected it, then our expectations grew of what it SHOULD BE, and when it wasn't that, we felt disappointment.

I think had I gone into the film, and never spent a single moment on the Hype, I wouldn't have had my original negative response that I did.

I think a lot of people are enjoying it more on 2nd viewing because we've been brought back down to reality. YES, there are powerful, great, EPIC movies out there. But there truly aren't many, AT ALL, the calibur of what we were expecting, because of what we knew.

We knew too much too soon, and instead of being thrilled with all the surprises, we let that knowledge effect us. We let our views of what "should be" take place of the thrill that we were getting this stuff.

We knew all this stuff and expecting the X-Men version of Return of the King, and we forgot that this is a COMIC BOOK MOVIE. Yes, comic book movies can be huge. Yes, comic book movies can be powerful. But name me 1 comic book that's on the same scale as a Lord of the Rings... just ain't happening.

But we DID get BIG. We did get EPIC. We just knew too much too soon, and had our own ideas of what "should" be that got in the way of our enjoyment of the film.
 
Primal Slayer said:
I plan on watching all three X-Men movies back to back tonight to see how well they all mesh together as a trilogy. Should be fun and intresting.


OooH! :D let us know how that goes...perhaps make a thread on it? because i've been meaning to do this but haven't had the time, so i'd like to see everybodys opinions on all three back to back.
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
I think you're totally right.

Instead of sitting in the theatre, thinking "HOLY CRAP! THAT WAS THE DANGER ROOM!"

It's like "Meh, saw that coming"

Colossus didn't get to do anything outside of his cameo in X2... seeing his role in X-Men: The Last Stand, we all would have been stoked to have him on the team, in the final battle. Instead, it was "Meh, we know. He needs to do stuff now"

Instead of the thrill of actually SEEING this stuff, that thrill got ruined spending our time online hyping it. Now, we expected it, then our expectations grew of what it SHOULD BE, and when it wasn't that, we felt disappointment.

I think had I gone into the film, and never spent a single moment on the Hype, I wouldn't have had my original negative response that I did.

I think a lot of people are enjoying it more on 2nd viewing because we've been brought back down to reality. YES, there are powerful, great, EPIC movies out there. But there truly aren't many, AT ALL, the calibur of what we were expecting, because of what we knew.

We knew too much too soon, and instead of being thrilled with all the surprises, we let that knowledge effect us. We let our views of what "should be" take place of the thrill that we were getting this stuff.

We knew all this stuff and expecting the X-Men version of Return of the King, and we forgot that this is a COMIC BOOK MOVIE. Yes, comic book movies can be huge. Yes, comic book movies can be powerful. But name me 1 comic book that's on the same scale as a Lord of the Rings... just ain't happening.

But we DID get BIG. We did get EPIC. We just knew too much too soon, and had our own ideas of what "should" be that got in the way of our enjoyment of the film.


Yes but Nell you have to look at WHY we hyped it up. It was because of the writers telling us all kinds of lies on the X-Verse. "You will be proud of Cyclops' role, Cyclops uses his powers more than once Collosus has much more screen time, Angel has a big role, this is the X-Men version of Return Of The King, it will be epic, the script has changed a lot since the script review, etc, etc." All of these were bull**** lies that got us hyped up and i remember all of those answer clearly, there are probably more bull**** lies that i couldnt remember also.

So who are we to blame for getting hyped? Not ourselves. And i for one went into X3 with low expectations, and came out not only severly dissapointed but amazingly angry also. I watched it again the other night and put all of my thoughts about Fox, etc out of my mind. But what i found was that its just a poorly constructed movie that didnt live up to even half the potential it had.
 
^Totally agree. I'm confused with your posts from before, though.:huh:
 
hmm in my opinion, Spiderman 1 is pretty elegant looking, funny, but at the same time kinda epic. Might be my opinion, but i do think a comic book movie does have the potential to be epic. Saying the contrary is a bit of underestimation imho...

even X2 has a saddening, "hopish", dark tone, which could be improved (and certaily had the potantial) to become a big epic film. Even if there's no comic book movie epic enough to date, why couldnt X3 be the first? Does every epic movie has to have warriors on horses screaming and thowing arrows? The problem, imo, is that X3 was advertised and expected as an epic, and it wanst a fan fantasy: based on the storylines, it could have been the best comic movie to date, and very epic, but it wasnt 10% of that.
 

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