Upon second viewing...

[Rong]

On my second (and third) viewing, it becomes even more clear that little touches could have made this film so much better. Besides several of the deleted scenes and (being a huge Rogue fan) the alternate no-cure ending, one that comes to my mind is a post-Scott's death Jean/Pheonix soliloquy/inner monologue/ struggle by Alkali Lake (a la Gollum) where Phoenix asserts herself as the dominant personality. It would take all of one minute of screen time.

Ce n'est pas la vie. Qui est Hollywood.

 

[<(o_o)>]

James & Anna would have probably been given bigger roles to do in X-Men 3 except they were both shooting other movies at the same time as X-Men 3 so they only got to use them for a limited time according to the dvd commentary. They still didn't have to kill Scott off though, they could have simply said that Dark Phoenix injured him so badly to were he winds up in a coma. An even bigger stretch could be that Xavier could have inhabited Scott's body after his was destroyed & then Xavier/ Scott could have showed up at the end & blasted Jean. They could have digitally inserted James's face over a body double & had Patrick Stewart to do some extra Xavier lines as if he was speaking through Scott's body & blasted Jean almost destroying her, then Dark Phoenix could of been trying to separate from Jean's body & then Wolverine could have came in & delivered the fatal blow like he did in the movie & finish her off, the only difference is that a powerful burst of light is shot into the sky as Jean starts to die & disperses in the form of a Fire Bird.

 

[michaaaeel]

I did like it alot more the second time round but I think they should have waited for Singer to finish Superman and give it to him, he would have done a much better job!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

But Rogue's story had just begun. Her arc was to be from frightened, lost girl to superhero. You can see her transform over the singer movies - she becomes brave enough to fly the jet and rescue the X-Men - and by the climax she has earned a costume. In X3, she is a member of the team, but goes back to the timid girl she was in X1. Ratner hit reset there almost.

Exactly, slowly in X2, she was becoming the fiesty gal she is in the comics, stopping Pyro's rampage, threatening Magneto, flying the X-Jet. These all showed that she was no longer a scared little girl.

But Ratner reduced her back to that in X3. Another waste.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

true, she was getting stronger, stronger, and betetr

 

[November Rain]

So tonight I got the dvd (with 21 deleted scenes woo hoo), this is the second time I saw the movie and i have to say it is MUCH better on second viewing! Does anyone agree?

I still hate that they cured Rogue and that the final Pheonix destruction scene wasn't longer but there is so much I missed the first time around, it didn't feel so rushed this time.

Does anyone else like this movie much more after a second viewing? Still not as good as X2, but better then X1, IMO.

nope

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

i luv it after 2nd viewing!

 

[newmexneon]

I can't believe I bought this piece of garbage of a film. It has to be one of the worst superhero films I have ever seen and that includes Catwoman and Daredevil.

"I'm the Juggernaut *****"?

What a ****ing joke this movie was.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

it's your opinion and viewpoint only

 

[La_She-Beast]

Well... I agree too. Not exactly a 'piece of garbage' but... no wait. I agree. I should throw my X3 DVD to the trashcan.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Exactly, slowly in X2, she was becoming the fiesty gal she is in the comics, stopping Pyro's rampage, threatening Magneto, flying the X-Jet. These all showed that she was no longer a scared little girl.

But Ratner reduced her back to that in X3. Another waste.

oh man, i so agree with that and so do Anna, Lauren and Avi Arad

 

[*xmenfan*]

When I saw the movie the first time i was like o god noo
The second time much better.

 

[xstormfan]

i just realized that multiple man is Dr. Mcsteamy from Grey's Anatomy...i'm slow

 

[Vile]

There was so much wrong with this movie it wasnt even funny, so no...second viewing just wanted to make me cry.

I mean, who wouldnt love how the Phoenix was basically reduced to an angry/horny personality with...well, nothing to do. I mean...why did she join Magneto? Oh yeah, the plot needed her to.

Xavier turned into a complete dick - Hell, I wanted him dead but we didnt even get THAT.

Gatta love the discussion the mutants had involving closing the school - what better way to remember the supposed mentor and father figure than shut down his life's work.

Angel - what was the point of his character again? Dont wanna be a mutant. Wanna be a mutant. Quick save. Forgetable.

Juggernaut defeated by a wall. Nuff said.

Iceman/Kitty 'relationship' - Yeah, she looks to be about 13 so that was just creepy.

"We dont need a cure, there is nothing wrong with any of us", says the incredibly attractive Halle Berry - screw you, Weather Witch...some of us can kill with a touch and are blue with freakin' hair all over.

"I found Cyclops' glasses. No Cyclops. I found Jean! Where's Cyclops?" *45 minutes later* "...I'm starting to think maybe Jean killed Cyclops." *audience slaps their foreheads*

Magneto recruiting Mutant Redshirts.

Iceman/Pyro fight. Hell yeah. Whoops, ends in a head-butt. So much for that.

Behold the Power of the Phoenix! Stab. The end. Nicely done.

Magneto lifting the bridge - very freaking cool. Finally, we see Mags cut loose. The only sad thing is...why didnt he just drop it on the clinic? Oh I'm sorry, that would make sense.

...need I go on?

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

You can, but will not change how i thought the movie was great and nell's ;p.

 

[La_She-Beast]

"We dont need a cure, there is nothing wrong with any of us", says the incredibly attractive Halle Berry - screw you, Weather Witch...some of us can kill with a touch and are blue with freakin' hair all over.

Kelsey Grammer: What was your power again?

Completely agree with you- what's worse, these are things that you can REALLY notice. Nothing discrete and everything obvious/predictable. I'm beginning to think that Ratner watched too many Power Rangers episodes.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Kelsey Grammer: What was your power again?

Completely agree with you- what's worse, these are things that you can REALLY notice. Nothing discrete and everything obvious/predictable. I'm beginning to think that Ratner watched too many Power Rangers episodes.

lol i think even some Power Rangers episodes were better conceived.

 

[Boba_Fett_123]

lol i think even some Power Rangers episodes were better conceived.

Green Ranger saga for the win.

I liked it better the second time, but I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that this is a Ratner action film.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

actually guys...been wondering. I'm looking for an audio clip that Logan would say about Jean being his Friend... "She was my friend." or something like that...just ..yeah. im working on a video edit of the scene between him and Ororo. -sighs- Can anyone help me out?

 

[Goddessreicho]

actually guys...been wondering. I'm looking for an audio clip that Logan would say about Jean being his Friend... "She was my friend." or something like that...just ..yeah. im working on a video edit of the scene between him and Ororo. -sighs- Can anyone help me out?

Here's an idea, cut Ororo out of that scene. Everybody has a problem with her and that scene, so remove the problem. I know your itching to have her dead so here's your chance.

That would leave Logan talking to himself being an emo queen. Then Logan also get to be in charge of the battlefield and the school. Logan would be truly unstoppable.

I mean after all who needs Ororo. Xavier is alive and Headmaster of his own school, she was ignored in the danger room and a wuss at Alcretrez. Just minority cannon foddor. Take her out of the movie completely, it's not going to be much of a difference, seeing as how she was completely useless during the whole trilogy.



Oh yea...I'm not being sarcastic either.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well my idea was to take the Logan and Jean Love Crap fest right out of the movie...i've edit out the part when she says "Because you love her..."

so basically...this is how it plays out...when he's about to leave, of course Ororo gets in his way. He says "Get out of my way..." and she says "Why can't you just see the truth? huh?" and then Logan turns away from her and she says her line about Jean making her choice.

I think the scene works better now. But I'd like to hear logan say something that he still considers Jean as his friend, nothing more. and taking the "She did make a choice...it was you," into consideration...yeah...I think it works.

This is the whole point of why Im doing this re-edit.

On that note, Im editing out his "I love you" line and replacing it with something else entirely that'll show a different side to him... the same side we saw of him in X1 when he went after Rogue but kept getting his ass owned several times.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Cut Ororo out of that scene, no the whole movie completely, then show people. Don't worry you'll get a postive response. In fact shoot her. I know you it will make you and many other people smile. If any one should have died it should have been her. Then you can show well deserved callous treatment of a dead character, go ahead.

I dare ya.

 

[Mike059jig]

I think the movie is to justify the Dark Pheonix saga is Tragic love between logan and Jean...thats how it is written and was suppose to be

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

... why would I want to take out Storm? Thats not even one of my reasons why im doing this re-edit. Look, if your referring to what I have against Storm, I'm over it- i've moved on. There are some scenes in all 3 films where Storm/Halle has her moments. And you know, I'm not that stupid to take storm out of the whole movie, nor would I want to. I don't care if I get a positive or a negative response from others- thats the least of my worries, bub.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Your not understanding me. You should recut X1 while your at it too. She was completely useless in that. Everything she did in that should have been done with Jean. The comforting of Senator Kelly should have been done to show that Jean, and Jean could have lifted Logan to the Statue of Liberty.

Same with X2. Scott and Jean should have gone after Nightcrawler. Jean could have been the one to be intrested in his view of the world, and been his sympathatic ear.

Take this theory with X3. Storm was ignored, useless, and annoying (to most people who swear they know what they're talking about) in the Danger Room, useless in the final battle. So what Logan could have easily taken out Callisto. Ororo got her behind handed to her in Jean's house. Logan could have fought both henchmen. And Xavier took the keys back for the mansion in the end, by being alive. So once again, Storm was useless.

Ororo = Minortiy cannon fodder, frame filler, and false advertisment all three times.

So take my advice, and cut her out completely, do it for the love of the art.