Visualizing A Superman Reboot: Pictures Welcome

[romeogbs19]

I think there's no reason to think that Singer wouldn't deliver a Superman sequel equivalent to how X2 was to X1.

Xmen 1 was in intro film- and did it great. The action was weak, but it got better with the second one.

Similiarly, for my two cents, the only real thing missing from SR was a strong villain to bring out Superman's sense of power. The drama was brilliantly done, imo- but what I hope WB realizes that if every movie is a gamble- (and in a sense it is).... having a filmmaker with Singer's resume is the safest bet around for a sequel to make beaucoup bucks.

I'm still in awe that WB doesn't get that SR COULD have been a SERIOUS boxoffice disaster--- and it wasn't. It was a modest hit---- just like Batman Begins was!!!

Simliarly, just as TDK was able to springboard from the first film, EVERYTHING Singer has said should have totally made WB and fans happy.... he WANTS and INTENDED more action for the sequel.... and had at least TWO (the original writers hinted that there was more than one villain for the sequel at the time they were interviewed) villains planned for the sequel---

What more can anyone ask of Singer to do for a sequel???
He wants to do an action packed sequel with a new villain, and fans (and non-fans) of SR want a new Superman film with more action and a new villain.

Just not a reboot. That's going backwards, even with flashbacks.... not to mention the creative damage of gambling with recasting an unknown.

Singer has a knack for casting unknowns.... but how on earth could WB ASSUME that another actor for a Superman film would have people accepting him right off the bat?

(*If WB wants to use the Hulk 2 example of recasting and rebooting without damage, that doesn't hold water--- because NOBODY thought Eric Bana was the perfect Bruce Banner to begin with! Edward Norton was a lot closer to Banner than Bana... I can't find anyone on the internet who would disagree with that)

Stick with Singer and stick with Routh, imo..... that's the safest bet, if WB cares about stockholders' money....

Where to begin on this.

Superman needs a re-boot; it's now been 30+ years that Superman flicks have been stuck in the alleged "Donner-verse". I admit that before SR, I thought Singer was onto something; post-SR, I am now squarely in the camp for relaunching the franchise from the ground up. In fact, as much as I love the Williams theme, if that has to be one more casualty to getting a Superman movie worthy of today's era, then so be it.

And while I liked Routh's physical look (still have major issues on that suit), he needs to go with Singer. You can't reboot a franchise by keeping stars from the old film. It wouldn't make any sense, for one, and second, it would mean we'd be once again stuck to the Jason garbage.

And on that note, no one from "Smallville" should be in this movie, either. It'll only cause massive confusion and likely turn away casual viewers who don't follow the show. And BTW, ratings for Smallville are pretty horrible. Further, if you have Welling, you'd need to bring Durance, too, as well as any of the other necessary Superman characters.

What the movie needs is a fresh break from SR and the Donner-verse. Bring in a new name for the Man of Steel, but surround him with high recognition/high caliber stars. This means bringing in someone like Naomi Watts, Evangeline Lilly, or Katherine Heigl to play Lois Lane; Anthony Hopkins or Ian McKellen to play Jor-El. And get solid writers; bring in the DC gurus Morrison, Millar, and Loeb. But also get pulitizer bigshots such as Michael Chabon to do a rewrite. Finally, be open to the visionaries like Lee, Ross, and Byrne. I don't mean you have to do what anyone here says, but the director has to incorporate and adopt feedback from these people. They are the guideposts for making sure the next Superman movie is what it should be: a fresh start that still builds on what has come before it in terms of story, depth of characters, action, and special effects.

That Singer and co. didn't ever bother to get any thoughts from DC is the exact kind of hubris this new production can do without.

If WB and DC want Superman to be its next Batman level franchise (and it can be), get the right talent and buzz behind it.

 

[moguy]

What ^^ he said.

 

[DavidTyler]

Where to begin on this.

Superman needs a re-boot; it's now been 30+ years that Superman flicks have been stuck in the alleged "Donner-verse". I admit that before SR, I thought Singer was onto something; post-SR, I am now squarely in the camp for relaunching the franchise from the ground up. In fact, as much as I love the Williams theme, if that has to be one more casualty to getting a Superman movie worthy of today's era, then so be it.

And while I liked Routh's physical look (still have major issues on that suit), he needs to go with Singer. You can't reboot a franchise by keeping stars from the old film. It wouldn't make any sense, for one, and second, it would mean we'd be once again stuck to the Jason garbage.

And on that note, no one from "Smallville" should be in this movie, either. It'll only cause massive confusion and likely turn away casual viewers who don't follow the show. And BTW, ratings for Smallville are pretty horrible. Further, if you have Welling, you'd need to bring Durance, too, as well as any of the other necessary Superman characters.

What the movie needs is a fresh break from SR and the Donner-verse. Bring in a new name for the Man of Steel, but surround him with high recognition/high caliber stars. This means bringing in someone like Naomi Watts, Evangeline Lilly, or Katherine Heigl to play Lois Lane; Anthony Hopkins or Ian McKellen to play Jor-El. And get solid writers; bring in the DC gurus Morrison, Millar, and Loeb. But also get pulitizer bigshots such as Michael Chabon to do a rewrite. Finally, be open to the visionaries like Lee, Ross, and Byrne. I don't mean you have to do what anyone here says, but the director has to incorporate and adopt feedback from these people. They are the guideposts for making sure the next Superman movie is what it should be: a fresh start that still builds on what has come before it in terms of story, depth of characters, action, and special effects.

That Singer and co. didn't ever bother to get any thoughts from DC is the exact kind of hubris this new production can do without.

If WB and DC want Superman to be its next Batman level franchise (and it can be), get the right talent and buzz behind it.

Will you people stop already?!!! Jor-el was not a geriatric white haired old man... He was a young man roughly the age of Superman when he sent his son off into space.

The old man was an invention of Donner. To keep picking an Anthony Hopkins or any other Brando substitute is to perptuate that bad idea.

Let's start thinking James Caveziel or Johnny Depp for Jor-El.

And if we get one more actor who pronounces Jor-el as 'jorrell', I'm gonna throw a fit. It's two separate words. Jor - <insert pause>- El.

 

[bgshw44]

Will you people stop already?!!! Jor-el was not a geriatric white haired old man... He was a young man roughly the age of Superman when he sent his son off into space.

The old man was an invention of Donner. To keep picking an Anthony Hopkins or any other Brando substitute is to perptuate that bad idea.

Let's start thinking James Caveziel or Johnny Depp for Jor-El.

And if we get one more actor who pronounces Jor-el as 'jorrell', I'm gonna throw a fit. It's two separate words. Jor - <insert pause>- El.

if they do go younger, they need a big name, caveziel isnt a big name. depp i just cant take seriously in that specific role

 

[romeogbs19]

Will you people stop already?!!! Jor-el was not a geriatric white haired old man... He was a young man roughly the age of Superman when he sent his son off into space.

The old man was an invention of Donner. To keep picking an Anthony Hopkins or any other Brando substitute is to perptuate that bad idea.

Let's start thinking James Caveziel or Johnny Depp for Jor-El.

And if we get one more actor who pronounces Jor-el as 'jorrell', I'm gonna throw a fit. It's two separate words. Jor - <insert pause>- El.

Sure -- I'm certainly not opposed to a younger Jor-El; that's all good to me. I merely was stating that we need a big name in that role. I don't think Caveziel is star attraction material. Johnny Depp would be awesome, but I sincerely doubt he'd take this role -- not to mention I don't see him right for it, either.

While I get the young Jor-El part, I think the focus needs to be on Clark and Superman. Having another good-looking, young male actor -- as was Marsden in SR -- just distracts us from the central character. I get why you'd rather have a young Jor-El vs. an older one, but I don't think merely choosing any older Jor-El is a Donner-verse decision. Personally, I think having an older actor adds gravitas to the movie (as did Brando with STM) and further, helps draw in the older generation.

 

[Crook]

No one's gonna be drawn into this movie solely because of a vet. If the promo material looks good and the reviews prove to support the film, then the audience will naturally go see it regardless.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Exactly.

 

[Cain]

The one thing I like about the curerent Batman movies was the formula for casting. They use proven but otherwise unknown to the mainstream actors in the main roles. While using more established actors many with an oscar past to fill in key supporting roles.

That approach to casting will add credibility to a new Superman project from the perspective of your average movie goer. So I came up with a cast based on my idea for the first film in a trilogy. I posted it in the SR sequels section as well as my rough idea for the flick but I'll post it in here too since it seems like this is the thread in this section for it.

Superman- Henry Cavill
Lois Lane - Alana De La Garza
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm
Pa Kent - Albert Finney
Ma Kent - Ellen Burstyn
Jor-El - Ralph Fiennes
Lara Lor-Van - Jennifer Connelly
Zor-El - David Boreanaz
Allura - Naomi Watts
Kara Zor-El - Evan Rachel Wood
Dru-Zod - Daniel Day-Lewis
Ursa - Lucy Lawless
Non - Dwayne Johnson
John Corben/Metallo - Brad Pitt
Perry White - Kurt Russell
Cat Grant - Charlize Theron
Ron Troupe - Don Cheadle
Jimmy Olsen - Drake Bell
Steve Lombard - Val Kilmer
Terrible Dan Turpin - Dennis Farina
Maggie Sawyer - Jodie Foster

Obviously just a dream cast but this gives a general idea of the type of approach that I think they should take for this film. It's one of the most important influences that it should have from the Batman franchise.

 

[DavidTyler]

The one thing I like about the curerent Batman movies was the formula for casting. They use proven but otherwise unknown to the mainstream actors in the main roles. While using more established actors many with an oscar past to fill in key supporting roles.

That approach to casting will add credibility to a new Superman project from the perspective of your average movie goer. So I came up with a cast based on my idea for the first film in a trilogy. I posted it in the SR sequels section as well as my rough idea for the flick but I'll post it in here too since it seems like this is the thread in this section for it.

Superman- Henry Cavill
Lois Lane - Alana De La Garza
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm
Pa Kent - Albert Finney
Ma Kent - Ellen Burstyn
Jor-El - Ralph Fiennes
Lara Lor-Van - Jennifer Connelly
Zor-El - David Boreanaz
Allura - Naomi Watts
Kara Zor-El - Evan Rachel Wood
Dru-Zod - Daniel Day-Lewis
Ursa - Lucy Lawless
Non - Dwayne Johnson
John Corben/Metallo - Brad Pitt
Perry White - Kurt Russell
Cat Grant - Charlize Theron
Ron Troupe - Don Cheadle
Jimmy Olsen - Drake Bell
Steve Lombard - Val Kilmer
Terrible Dan Turpin - Dennis Farina
Maggie Sawyer - Jodie Foster

Obviously just a dream cast but this gives a general idea of the type of approach that I think they should take for this film. It's one of the most important influences that it should have from the Batman franchise.

I'm curious about your choice for Perry. Why choose Kurt Russell when he looks absolutely nothing like the character?

The beauty of Gary Oldman as Gordon is that he actually does look like the young Jim Gordon... and Oldman is an incredible actor.

Russell is only a so-so actor and is in good physical condition. Perry is heavy and requires someone with great acting chops since the character is integral to the stories.

 

[Xybalba69]

Where to begin on this.

Superman needs a re-boot; it's now been 30+ years that Superman flicks have been stuck in the alleged "Donner-verse". I admit that before SR, I thought Singer was onto something; post-SR, I am now squarely in the camp for relaunching the franchise from the ground up. In fact, as much as I love the Williams theme, if that has to be one more casualty to getting a Superman movie worthy of today's era, then so be it.

And while I liked Routh's physical look (still have major issues on that suit), he needs to go with Singer. You can't reboot a franchise by keeping stars from the old film. It wouldn't make any sense, for one, and second, it would mean we'd be once again stuck to the Jason garbage.

And on that note, no one from "Smallville" should be in this movie, either. It'll only cause massive confusion and likely turn away casual viewers who don't follow the show. And BTW, ratings for Smallville are pretty horrible. Further, if you have Welling, you'd need to bring Durance, too, as well as any of the other necessary Superman characters.

What the movie needs is a fresh break from SR and the Donner-verse. Bring in a new name for the Man of Steel, but surround him with high recognition/high caliber stars. This means bringing in someone like Naomi Watts, Evangeline Lilly, or Katherine Heigl to play Lois Lane; Anthony Hopkins or Ian McKellen to play Jor-El. And get solid writers; bring in the DC gurus Morrison, Millar, and Loeb. But also get pulitizer bigshots such as Michael Chabon to do a rewrite. Finally, be open to the visionaries like Lee, Ross, and Byrne. I don't mean you have to do what anyone here says, but the director has to incorporate and adopt feedback from these people. They are the guideposts for making sure the next Superman movie is what it should be: a fresh start that still builds on what has come before it in terms of story, depth of characters, action, and special effects.

That Singer and co. didn't ever bother to get any thoughts from DC is the exact kind of hubris this new production can do without.

If WB and DC want Superman to be its next Batman level franchise (and it can be), get the right talent and buzz behind it.

dude...im framing this...

 

[Cain]

I'm curious about your choice for Perry. Why choose Kurt Russell when he looks absolutely nothing like the character

The beauty of Gary Oldman as Gordon is that he actually does look like the young Jim Gordon... and Oldman is an incredible actor.

Oldman was made to look like Gordon that's why he looks the part but he doesn't look like him in day to day life. I guarantee he was the last person in many people's minds for the role before it was ever cast.

There's Perry a middle aged editor. Russell is no longer the beefcake he was 20 something years ago he's a middle aged guy as well he's pushing 60. Grey him at the temples and you're good to go appearance wise.

Russell is only a so-so actor and is in good physical condition.

Again Russell has packed on the pounds it comes with growing older also he's a better than so-so actor he is a good one. The thing is many people have forgotten this cause he has chosen suspect projects since the 90's even though he still shines in them.

Perry is heavy and requires someone with great acting chops since the character is integral to the stories.

Again Russell is a very solid actor and this could be a reminder to those who forgot that. All you need with Perry White is someone who not only is good with comedic acting but also has a commanding presence and a tough demeanor. Kurt Russell could definitely pull all that off. So that's why he's my choice.

 

[romeogbs19]

No one's gonna be drawn into this movie solely because of a vet. If the promo material looks good and the reviews prove to support the film, then the audience will naturally go see it regardless.

Of course -- having a Hopkins or McKellen (or any vet) isn't going to draw in mass crowds, but there is something to be said about legitimacy and gravitas. Having stars like these separate the must-see flicks from the trivia blockbusters. Now while some of the success of TDK definitely is attributable to the Ledger tragedy, a large part of it is also due to the spotlight actors in Caine and Freeman. SR never carried such star power while STM did in Brando and Hackman. Now, admittedly, the script is the most important part -- not even the most brilliant actors can carry the load of a lackluster script and direction (which SR had). As I said before, bring in DC's best and hire outside writers (i.e. Chabon) to handle a few rewrites.

Stars alone won't get the job done (we all know that), but they do provide ample buzz generation behind any project. Spacey simply didn't bring that attention (and let's not even get started on Bosworth).

Whoever is cast, the Man of Steel needs AAA superstars around him.

 

[MichaelEsquire]

In theory, if these veteran actors are in the film, we believe them to be in it because they like the script and want to be apart of it, not just because they think it'll be good for their career or studios went out of their way to get them just to draw in people to see the movie.

 

[SuperDaniel]

That is awesome!

 

[MichaelEsquire]

I love that he's being drawn to look like Reeve.

 

[smsvmos]

I would love to see a scene where Superman is fighting and something like this comes to play

[YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/aT91Kt1AgeM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/aT91Kt1AgeM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT]

But insted of him coming out with that cloth he comes out with this

and then something like this fallows

Thanx to Mike22 for the art

 

[The Sage]

 

[MichaelEsquire]

I like that picture. If that was the ensemble cast of characters for the Daily Planet, I think the scenes within it would allow more character relationships but not too much where they could get lost in the shuffle.

 

[SuperDaniel]

^That is an awesome picture.

 

[Weadazoid]

Superman like this. Not evil, just super-p*ssed and afterwards displaying some full force action like we've never seen him!

Is that Jim Lee art work?

 

[I am Batman]

Where did this magnificent piece of art come from and who did it?

 

[I am Batman]

Is that Jim Lee art work?

Yep that's Jim Lee's work. God I hope they make Superman's hair look like this:

I hated that brylcreemed hair Routh had in SR.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The art on this page is beautiful!

 

[Robin91939]

The one thing I like about the curerent Batman movies was the formula for casting. They use proven but otherwise unknown to the mainstream actors in the main roles. While using more established actors many with an oscar past to fill in key supporting roles.

That approach to casting will add credibility to a new Superman project from the perspective of your average movie goer. So I came up with a cast based on my idea for the first film in a trilogy. I posted it in the SR sequels section as well as my rough idea for the flick but I'll post it in here too since it seems like this is the thread in this section for it.

Superman- Henry Cavill
Lois Lane - Alana De La Garza
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm
Pa Kent - Albert Finney
Ma Kent - Ellen Burstyn
Jor-El - Ralph Fiennes
Lara Lor-Van - Jennifer Connelly
Zor-El - David Boreanaz
Allura - Naomi Watts
Kara Zor-El - Evan Rachel Wood
Dru-Zod - Daniel Day-Lewis
Ursa - Lucy Lawless
Non - Dwayne Johnson
John Corben/Metallo - Brad Pitt
Perry White - Kurt Russell
Cat Grant - Charlize Theron
Ron Troupe - Don Cheadle
Jimmy Olsen - Drake Bell
Steve Lombard - Val Kilmer
Terrible Dan Turpin - Dennis Farina
Maggie Sawyer - Jodie Foster

Obviously just a dream cast but this gives a general idea of the type of approach that I think they should take for this film. It's one of the most important influences that it should have from the Batman franchise.

I like your lead actor/actress choices. Not to fond of the villains for the film, with Zod, Non, and Ursa...If we get a reboot I don't want them in it or anywhere near it. I like the Metallo pick for Pitt, though not my first choice.

I like your Superman, Lois, and Luthor a lot. Who would be your pick for Brainiac?

-R

 

[DavidTyler]

Oldman was made to look like Gordon that's why he looks the part but he doesn't look like him in day to day life. I guarantee he was the last person in many people's minds for the role before it was ever cast.

There's Perry a middle aged editor. Russell is no longer the beefcake he was 20 something years ago he's a middle aged guy as well he's pushing 60. Grey him at the temples and you're good to go appearance wise.



Again Russell has packed on the pounds it comes with growing older also he's a better than so-so actor he is a good one. The thing is many people have forgotten this cause he has chosen suspect projects since the 90's even though he still shines in them.



Again Russell is a very solid actor and this could be a reminder to those who forgot that. All you need with Perry White is someone who not only is good with comedic acting but also has a commanding presence and a tough demeanor. Kurt Russell could definitely pull all that off. So that's why he's my choice.

I wasn't criticizing your choice, just curious.