Warriors Three Cast

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes spelled Tatar.


And not funny.

Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.

Not offensive. Just not funny.


Check out the Wiki page on Tatars.


That's exactly the race Hogun spawned from. Hell, even Charles Bronson was a Tatar. And they were known for traveling to Finland.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, yeah, that is definitely a match for most portrayals of Hogun I've seen.

 

[piccolo]

Let me end this racial debate.

Its been over, as far as i'm concerned. I would prefer a caucasian casting and would find it more authentic, but the actor they picked is asian and i'm sure he'll be awesome in the role. Thor: The Movie goes on.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Its been over, as far as i'm concerned. I would prefer a caucasian casting and would find it more authentic, but the actor they picked is asian and i'm sure he'll be awesome in the role. Thor: The Movie goes on.

Why you feel a Caucasian actor would be more authentic casting for a clearly non-Caucasian character is the matter that's still causing confusion.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I meant the writer/artist of the first more contemporary scan posted by keyzer soze. Thats the only one where I can say he looks definitively asian and not just extremely rugged.

It's not just a contemporary thing. Hogun has long been portrayed with Asian features:

Not the yellow skin here, even, which was stereotypically used to portray Asian people in earlier comics.

 

[Vartha]

People accepted into the fold have to eat the Golden Apples anyway.



Read "Eaters of the Dead"

Or watch 13th Warrior

 

[Vartha]

That and the myths have a handsome trickster god able to have a wolf, serpent, and hag with his ogre wife. The same trickster turned into a female horse and got knocked up, giving birth to Sleipner.

Slepnir, yes the read Ages of Thunder, Regin of Blood and Man of war or read the Ages of Thunder Trade.
The Myths are addapted to why Thor was banished to Earth. The loki bringing home Slepnir was changed. Marvel's verison had Thor HORSES instead of goats eatten and he took the horses bones and made Slepnir.

You'll recognize the myths in Ages of Thunder. There's even parts of the first draft of the movie script in the last book Man of war.

 

[Vartha]

What about Nepal or Tibet? Borderline Asian/Scandinavian/Russian. Well, Tibet is.

I can actually see that. Hogun's people's Battle Standard fits that area too.

 

[Vartha]

I never said Hogun was a "real" anything. Just said that the Vikings did interact with Asians, and so it would be very possible for Hogun to have been asian. And considering all the Marvel literature & illustration, most probably he was.

FYI Asgardians are not "immortal", and not all Asgardians are Gods. Nobody said he is Mongul, but he has Mongul characteristics.

Also, Vikings are not a race but a way of life (culture). Many races had Viking culture.

I can't remember but it's possible that none of the Warriors Three were actual Marvel Norse Gods.

I agree with this Manowar. Slaves were common place in the Norse countries.
If I recall right in the book "The Vinland Saga:the Norse discovery of America" it was actually a German Farm slave that first spotted the land on one of Lief Erikson's boats.

Another example is the movie "The Vikings" with Kirk Douglas, Ernst Bornine, and Tony Curtis.

The 13th Warrior is partly based on an Actual Arab diary. Granted the Eatters of the dead/13th Warrior is Beowulf rewritten he also applied what an Arab had made notes on a Viking camp.

 

[Vartha]

Sorry if that was offensive. I actually haven't heard of Tartars before.

I KNOW you've seen 13th Warrior Corpy, you don't remember a scene early on in the movie? "THE TARTARS ARE COMING, THE TARTARS ARE COMING!!"

 

[piccolo]

Why you feel a Caucasian actor would be more authentic casting for a clearly non-Caucasian character is the matter that's still causing confusion.

Its easy to tell when an artist draws someone as asian. With the exception of one, in every one you've posted he just looks like a white guy with a long mustauche.

Which he is.

And should be.

Hogun is cast as an asian dude and its cool. Its not even an issue anymore. Thor: the movie goes on, and so does this useless debate as long as you insist on it. Now, jump again.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Its easy to tell when an artist draws someone as asian. With the exception of one, in every one you've posted he just looks like a white guy with a long mustauche.

Which he is.

And should be.

Hogun is cast as an asian dude and its cool. Its not even an issue anymore. Thor: the movie goes on, and so does this useless debate as long as you insist on it. Now, jump again.

I'm all up for dropping the issue. But I just find it funny that, rather than acknowledging the abundance of evidence from a variety of sources proving you wrong, or at least saying "Okay, we'll agree to disagree on what the character's ethnicity is", you're trying to save face by make-believing your stance as "Okay, Hogun is obviously white in the comics, but I'll let them change his ethnicity for the movie, I'm fine with it." As if you'd done a thing to prove the character is definitively Caucasian in the comics, rather than just saying numerous pics showing his Asian features "aren't quite Asian enough" or saying "Nah, I don't think so" when the Thor continuity experts like Corp or Vartha chip in with their evidence backing up his foreign heritage. Which you haven't.

But yeah, maybe we should just move on from the debate. I can keep on posting pictures of the blue sky, and you can keep on saying "That looks beige to me." And it's nothing but a waste of both our time.

 

[Manowar]

Not offensive. Just not funny.


Check out the Wiki page on Tatars.


That's exactly the race Hogun spawned from. Hell, even Charles Bronson was a Tatar. And they were known for traveling to Finland.

WOW! Nice link. It's the closest description so far that resembles Hogun I think. So Hogun was Eurasian!!! That should satisfy all I would think.

 

[Nivek]

Awesome casting!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

This is great news, indeed! FInally, the Thor film is comnig togeather.

 

[cerealkiller182]

As far as I know, he is a native of the asgardian dimension, just not the city of asgard where Thor/Balder/Odin/etc. are from. His homeland wasn't middle eastern or asian/mongul, it was just conquered by another asgardian named Mogul, who had no asian ties from any indication i've seen.

You should work on reading comprehension. I never said he was middle eastern or asian/mongolian only that he he seems to have more in common with those cultures than the rest of the Norse gods. I said he was from an unnamed homeland (not Asia), which very well could be from the same dimension as Asgard but that means very little since the Norse gods I believe are called Aesirs. They are the natives of Asgard. Hogun is not an Aesir nor is he a native of Asgard, just a neighboring homeland.

I've never seen him as anything but caucasian and his appearance seems to be as such. I just have a problem with changing comics characters ethnicity randomly, it takes from the authenticity a little bit. Clearly there's nothing to be done about it and i'll enjoy the film all the same, I just think its inane and unneeded.

The only ACTUAL visual clue that he may be Caucasian is that he has white skin, but he shares a number of traits with the middle eastern/asian/mongolian traits. At best it is ambiguous what his actual background is, than saying he is definitely Caucasian or Central/Eastern Asian. The only fact is that he is NOT from Asgard so casting against the rest of the Norse gods isnt uncalled for.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

There doesn't have to be a reason for Asians in the home of Marvel's Norse gods. They live in another dimension with all kinds of races and creatures. Marvel's Asgard is, once again, not 100% identical to the myths' Asgard, so the fact that it has Asians doesn't mean anything or have to have any reasonable basis, it's just how Marvel's version is.

Hogun's homeland is never seen, only mentioned in dialogue. This dude, Saguta, is the only other definite member of Hogun's race that I can recall seeing (although, again, it stands to reason that they're mixed in among Mogul's subjects in the Mystic Mountain, all of whom appear pretty Mongolian or Arabic to me):

You can decide for yourself whether he (or Hogun, for that matter) looks Mongolian, Russian, Lithuanian, or whatever else, but it seems pretty clear that at the very least they're not of the same Aryan-looking race as the other gods of Asgard to me.

He sure doesn't look Asian.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

How's der Fuhrer doing? I swear some people are beyond foolish.

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

 

[DocHoliday]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

read my post again, kiddo. It was more a reaction to the person you the term "a Jewish" in reference to Natalie Portman. Jane Foster is not Nordic so complaining that "a Jewish" is playing her his straight up prejudice.

 

[NoirMan82]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

What are you even talking about? We have 2, count'em, 2 minorities in minor supporting roles in a fantasy film. And somehow it's being tame, and "PC Leftist" or whatever the hell that means because the cast of this movie isn't 100% Aryan? I think you need to seriously reflect on some of your opinions there, buddy.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

read my post again, kiddo. It was more a reaction to the person you the term "a Jewish" in reference to Natalie Portman. Jane Foster is not Nordic so complaining that "a Jewish" is playing her his straight up prejudice.

Having Jane Foster being Jewish doesn't bother me. But making the second actor to be cast in the production being Jewish seemed like a statement to me. Maybe i'm wrong. But that's what I saw.

What's funny is that I don't have that much a problem with Portman cast as Jane Foster. I have a bigger problem with Hemsorth as Thor.

 

[louiebling$]

And your reaction is an example of how PC leftist can be. You want these guys to be like the comics, where it's still mainly Nordic types and you're wrong somehow. People are brainwashed. The Thor production going pc is an example of being cowards and wanting to pander to lowest common denominator "so everybody can be happy".

I'm sure they'll do everything in their power so the violence do not offends too many people. They'll have music that won't make it scary to 14 years old girls everywhere.

I think we're looking at a Thor movie that's going to be pretty tame.

People like you give comic book fans a bad rep

 

[Stripesy Strip]

People like you give comic book fans a bad rep

Dude your avatar is Deadpool. t: So as far as bad fanboys...

'Nuff said.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Well at least I'm a good guy in this thread.