Was the action that much better?

[bes628]

Exactly, and what is actually remembered by your common audience is what I mentioned. Nothing from the first movie, Nightcrawler from the second, and a handful from the last.

Hell, people want to complain about worthless action scenes I can tell you right now, each movie would be over in 3 minutes.

thats true.

X1- Wolveirne vs Sabertooth
X2- Nightcrawler
X3- Everything just about

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

it was so SO much better.
'cept for Nightcrawler opening of 2.

 

[D-scythe]

But for $200-210 million, which is 3 times the budget of X1 and almost 2 times the budget of X2, did people get what they paid for?

 

[bes628]

But for $200-210 million, which is 3 times the budget of X1 and almost 2 times the budget of X2, did people get what they paid for?

i did. i dont know, dont care about anybody else. X3 is killin X1 and X2. the film just seemed better to me

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

But for $200-210 million, which is 3 times the budget of X1 and almost 2 times the budget of X2, did people get what they paid for?

I guess we weren't watching the same movie.
The obvious answer is yes. I was sitting there almost feeling guilty for how much superior action they poured into for me. It made X-Men 1 look like Teletubbies.

 

[Nathan]

You hear that Fox? Deliver some good power display, have alot of cannon fodder ready and people will love your movies.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

You hear that Fox? Deliver some good power display, have alot of cannon fodder ready and people will love your movies.

Did you...just figure that out?

 

[D-scythe]

I guess we weren't watching the same movie.
The obvious answer is yes. I was sitting there almost feeling guilty for how much superior action they poured into for me. It made X-Men 1 look like Teletubbies.

Dude, I know the obvious answer is yes - X3 beats the others hands down in terms of pure action. All I'm saying is that it is unfair to compare X1 and X2 to X3 in terms of this action because it's budget was so much greater than either film.

It'd be like buying a Honda Civic and then a Viper GTS-R and then expecting the Civic to out-race the Viper.

 

[xwolverine2]

its all just a matter of opinion...


like saying:which fight scene in the matrix trilogy was best?

 

[Cho Chang]

The movie was a joke.

 

[LadyVader]

Yeah, but was it funny?

 

[Cho Chang]

Yeah, but was it funny?

Nope. It was the most depressing joke I've ever witnessed.

 

[xwolverine2]

The movie was a joke.

thankyou.... i will remember that when i see it a third time

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Dude, I know the obvious answer is yes - X3 beats the others hands down in terms of pure action. All I'm saying is that it is unfair to compare X1 and X2 to X3 in terms of this action because it's budget was so much greater than either film.

It'd be like buying a Honda Civic and then a Viper GTS-R and then expecting the Civic to out-race the Viper.

Dude. The title of the thread is "Was the action that much better?" and the answer is yes. That's all I'm saying.
It was "that much" better.

 

[LadyVader]

Nope. It was the most depressing joke I've ever witnessed.

More depressing then this?

Alinutza: Mom! Dad hung himself in the kitchen!
The mother, terrified, goes to check the kitchen but doesn't find anything.
Alinutza: Hehe! April Fool's! He hung himself in the garage.

 

[Cho Chang]

thankyou.... i will remember that when i see it a third time

You've already seen it twice. lol. Good for you, Fox is very, very proud of you. Here's a complimentary tube of KY for the next time they decide to **** you up the ass.

 

[Cho Chang]

More depressing then this?

Alinutza: Mom! Dad hung himself in the kitchen!
The mother, terrified, goes to check the kitchen but doesn't find anything.
Alinutza: Hehe! April Fool's! He hung himself in the garage.

That's quite possibly the funniest goddamned thing I've ever read.

 

[LadyVader]

Heh. Alintuza is pretty funny.

Alinutza and her cannibal dad are walking down the street. They see a beautiful woman.
Alinutza: Dad, can we take her home and eat her?
Father: Don't be stupid. We're taking her home and we eat your mother.


But anywhoo... how about that Wolverine.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Dude. The title of the thread is "Was the action that much better?" and the answer is yes. That's all I'm saying.
It was "that much" better.

how would you define this better wilhelm?

bigger scale better

better effects better?

better choeography(sp?) better?

better encapsulated within the story better?

better flowing better

better character envolvement better.



i dunno, personally for me out of the whole trilogy, probably the simplest, cheapest battle with wolverine's cage fight stands out for me as being the best of the whole trilogy. then comes in deathstrike's and wolverine's and nightcrawlers for the superior choeography.

you're good with words. how come you think the battles in x3 are leaps and bounds better than some of teh aforementioned ones?

it's not like the gap between them are anything like spidey 1 bouts vs spidey 2 bouts (even though arguable goblin bout of first film is overall best bout).

 

[martinbluther]

Don't get me wrong the SFX was awesome. In fact it easily surpasses either film in the SFX and CGI....but is the action or the actual sequences really any bit better.

All the one on ones were disappointing in X3 if non-existant other than a few bad romps with Juggy (knocked out by a wall) and the Callisto/Storm cat fights which the second one was mildly cool.

But look at the fight sequences that looked cool but had little intensity. Now compare that to the fight scene between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike or Wolverine and Mystique. I mean sure Wolverine killed more people in this but it did not have the coolness factor or the intensity in the woodo or finale as it did in the mansion in X2 where he went ape**** on those men (seeing him say "You picked the wrong house bub," and nail the guy to the fridge is much cooler than him kill that annoying spike guy).

The climaxes in both films was far more intense (though it was less action and more character driven in X2, but X1 with less was much more edge of your seat inducing).

And before you say they didn't show the powers as well all I have to say is the Nightcrawler sequence. And as cool as the CGI was in the golden gate bridge scene the scene was rather boring as compared to say his escape scene in X2.

Just an observation though.

I think many people want the lack of characterization and storytelling because they have no patience for it. They want a video game on a really, really big screen. If that's your thing, then X3 was much much better because the camera didn't stay on anything for more than a second or two(hyperbole). I think the pace was much much quicker, with more one-liners and such, and you have to remember, it's been three years since the last movie. People with no patience for the pace of X1 aren't likely to be the contemplative type, and three years is a really, really long time to think all the way back to...(again, hyperbole, but I don't think people really remember things like that opening Nightcrawler scene). I don't think the action was all that better. No protracted battles because tension requires patience. No battles really lasted very long or were that involved or that clever. There were just a lot more of them. And, again, if that's your thing, then X3 was great... Personally, I think it relfects the Fox mentality (oxymoron) of appealing to the lowest common denominator in order to have a very safe appeal, like when animals attack... lots of action in that, too... but I still prefer the Matrix, or LOTR to that...

 

[ScarletSpider]

There was more action in 3, but none of it was as good as Nightcrawler storming the white house, the school being invaded or Wolverine vs Deathstrike.. in my opinion.

 

[invincible mann]

personally my favorite action scene was kitty vs juggernaut
ellen page was great
hope she comes back

 

[RagingTempest]

Are you kidding!!! X3 beats X1 and X2 by 1000 miles when it came to the action!!! In X1 and X2, Wolverine did all the fighting while the rest of the team used their powers for a few seconds!!!

 

[D-scythe]

Dude. The title of the thread is "Was the action that much better?" and the answer is yes. That's all I'm saying.

And you're not reading what I'm saying. The topic has strayed a bit since then, and I'm just addressing all those posters who say that X3 was better than anything Singer could've come up with because the action was so good.

That doesn't float well with me. Obviously X3 is going to be more action packed, but to use that to prove Singer isn't capable of making an equally entertaining action film is ridiculous.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The problems with the action in X-Men 1 were not budget related. Pacing, editing, choreography, direction, those were the problems with the action scenes.