Watching X2 again, I could cry!

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree with pretty much everyone in this thread. I haven't been able to watch X2 myself since X3, because of the disappointment I felt during and after The Last Stand.

Here's some points that I think the majority will agree on.

1) Fans of X3 have said Singer wasn't entirely faithful to the X-Men comic universe. Yes, some changes were made but in the end those changes didn't deviate from the source material much. Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, and etc, etc.... were still intact in terms of their character and their stories. I felt what Singer was doing was basically starting out with Logan's story and finishing it so he can concentrate on Cyclops, Jean, Bobby, Rogue, Colossus, and even Nightcrawler.

Whether people agree with this or not, Singer was a lot more faithful to the comics than Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg were. It's funny how a non-fan like Singer(who admitted to not reading comics as a kid) makes a quality and more faithful comic book film, than the ones who claim to be the "biggest X-Men fans" and make a disappointing mediocre film.

2) Emotion over Action- I think this is another aspect that made X1 and X2 so great. The action was actually driven by the plot and it had a lot of heart, but in the end the storytelling is what really drove it home and made you feel/relate to these particular characters. What Singer has over Ratner is that he actually understands character development, storytelling, and dialogue. He knew how to leave the camera on that particular moment just a little while longer so the impact could set in.

Here are some examples.

1. Young Magneto trying to get to his family during the Holocaust. The shot of him screaming, crying, and extending his hand is a very powerful and emotional moment.

2. Rogue and Logan having a heart to heart. Regardless of how X3 supporters defend how much of a softie Logan became in X3, when Logan and Rogue have the heart to heart in X1 that is pure Logan. He isn't the guy breaking down in tears and becoming emo himself, he is basically comforting Rogue and understanding where she's coming from. That moment with him and Rogue on the train is very beautiful, sad, and heartwrenching at the same time.

3. Cyclops promising Xavier that he'd take care of them if anything happened. See, this is where the seeds were planted for him to become the major character he is. I truly believe Singer had EVERY intention on making Cyclops the main character, but he wanted to do it slowly, gradually, and do it when X3 finally came along. The seeds of this were planted in X1, in X2 it bloomed into a beautiful flower in the end, and he was shafted by the political agenda set by Fox.

4. Logan accidently stabbing Rogue through the chest. Logan's reaction is pure Logan and so was Rogue's reaction. You didn't see Logan breaking down like a baby in this scene did you? If anything stabbing the girl who looked at him as a father figure is enough to make you break down, but did he? So why in the world would he break down at the sight of Xavier's empty wheelchair?

5. Logan holding a lifeless Rogue on the Statue of Liberty. That was a beautiful moment and I literally cried at that same. The music, the atmosphere, the way Singer used the camera, and the whole tone really just moved me to tears. Words didn't have to be used in this scene it was a sad emotional moment watching Logan hold Rogue believing she was dead.

6. Cyclops taking his stand as a leader and overriding Jean saying, "I have a shot. I'm taking it." Granted not an overly emotional moment but you were on the edge of your seat waiting for him to do it and when he did it, you jumped for joy and praised him.

X2

1. Nightcrawler in the church with Jean and Storm. Another heartwrenching scene as you see how scared, harmless, and sincere he was after being struck down by Storm's lightning. Sometimes I have a hard time watching that scene without choking up a bit.

2. Rogue being sucked out of the plane. That was a truly unexpected as it happened so quick and I remember thinking, "Oh no." and when Nightcrawler bamfed to save her that moved me to tears of joy. A lot of X3 supporters point out how she became weak and crying there, well you know being sucked out of a plane isn't my idea of a good confident time either you know.

3. Pyro going insane after seeing Logan get shot in the head. You can see the rage, hatred, and fear in him before he exploded and he ended it perfectly with this line, "you know about all those dangerous mutants you here on tv? I'm the worst one." Perfect. I never get tired of that scene.

4. Erik walking up to Charles with the quote "How does it look from there Charles? It doesn't look like they're playing by your rules. Maybe it's time we play by their's." And ends it with "Goodbye Charles" placing his hand on his wheelchair and walking away. There were NO moments like this in X3 as it just appeared they didn't like nor respect each other. Had Singer stayed on I would've loved to have seen more Charles and Erik moments.

5. The real kicker was Scott watching Jean die. I remember slowly welling up and feeling the lumps in my throat, and when she dies Logan says "She's gone....She's gone" and to see Cyclops scream, punch, and push at Logan yelling at home "NOOO! YOU DON'T SAY THAT! WE'LL GET HER BACK." He just breaks down in the arms of a man he despises. That was a sad beautiful moment and well acted by Hugh and James. The other thing that made me cry was Nightcrawler saying a prayer during the moment of grief.

No matter what I always cry during that scene or if I don't cry, my eyes always get misty.

The end point? Singer had a better understanding of characters, stories, and emotion. Yeah, Ratner upped the action aspect and brought a bunch of different visual eye candy. However, in the end, did it really come up to anything? Did it really make you feel for any of the characters? I felt nothing in X3 as everything happened either to fast and when something happened, the impact wasn't allowed to settle in as Ratner basically admits "I want to keep it moving forward. That's my ADD frantic pace. Keep it moving, keep it moving. I get bored very easily."

In the end as of right now there's nothing we can do. The film is done and it has made its money back(Unfortunately). But we can still voice our opinion, voice our disappointment, and continue speaking out against Fox until we either get a worthy sequel or a restart(Like Batman Begins and Casino Royale).

The only thing about the restart that I'm against is the complete remaking of X1 and X2, since those were excellent films. However, just like they're completely restarting Batman Begins, maybe they should do the same with X-Men in about 5 or 6 years.

To close this thread on a unique interesting note. Here's my inspiration on how X3 should've ended in my opinion. It's a very emotional moment, powerful, sad, and yet it really reminds me of the Dark Phoenix Saga in every sense of the word. Keep in mind it didn't and doesn't have to be exactly like this, but the tone and the emotion behind it could've/should've been in this aspect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxOZBedhlmo

 

[chaseter]

Oh Jesus...another gripe thread bashing X3 and praising X1 and X2...who woulda thunk!????

X2 was good yes...but do we need to keep hearing about it...no.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Oh Jesus...another gripe thread bashing X3 and praising X1 and X2...who woulda thunk!????

Not trying to be a prick or anything, but if you don't have anything to contribute to this thread, could you please refrain from the typical insulting and sarcastic posts? People are having an intelligent discussion and it's very rude of you to come in trying to ruin everything.

There are threads praising X3 if you're tired of this.

 

[chaseter]

Not trying to be a prick or anything, but if you don't have anything to contribute to this thread, could you please refrain from the typical insulting and sarcastic posts? People are having an intelligent discussion and it's very rude of you to come in trying to ruin everything.

There are threads praising X3 if you're tired of this.

Praising or bashing, I am sick and tired of people thinking that they are high and mighty enough to post their own review thread. Secondly, X2 has nothing to do with X3. If you want to praise X2 or X1, go to the correct forums. We 'had' a single review thread for this case but people thought they deserve their own threads. I am not just picking on this thread starter because a lot of other people have done the same thing on either side. Very rarely do we get a thread in here that poses a good and debatable question where people from both sides can come in and talk. But gripe thread after gripe thread after praise thread has gotten old very quickly.

 

[FireandIce213]

Though I really enjoyed X-Men 3 for what it was, a fun summer action flick, I have to agree with the thread starter from the standpoint that the writers and Ratner seemed more focused on satisfying the mainstream moviegoing crowd rather than the actual X-Men fan crowd. X-Men fans have been waiting years for movies that will do the comics justice, myself included. The first two Xfilms were great and I think many folks were asking for more, they wanted an epic trilogy ala LOTR or Star Wars, and that's really the only way that they couldve satisfied everyone who watches the movie. The first two movies utilized the great talents of the actors involved, with scenes like Cyclops begging Jean not to sacrifice herself to Wolverine interrogating Stryker outside of Alkali Lake to Cyclops crying and grabbing on to Logan for comfort. I also believe that the characters in the first two were really faithful to what they were in the comics, in X3 a lot of characters were written out of character.

 

[The Batman]

I've found that watching X3 ruins X2 for you.

Before X3, i'd put in X2 every week and watch it, and get giddy with excitement. Now...I cant put it in the DVD player. I cant muster up the strength to watch it, because i know what happens after and what happens is extremely disappointing

 

[Spoarz™]

You're too right AVEITWITHJAMON, X2: X-Men United is a spectacular film, I love it, and it saddens me to think of what we could have had for the next installment of a superb saga. Though I originally found X-Men: The Last Stand enjoyable, I look back now and just feel disappointed with the final outcome.

There were many flaws to the film, though personally, the worst thing had to be how Fox treated Cyclops. Cyclops has always been my favourite X-Man, ever since I was young, and to see James Marsden's role shafted so badly, and replaced with the greatly overused Wolverine, it just f**ks me off thinking about it.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

You're too right AVEITWITHJAMON, X2: X-Men United is a spectacular film, I love it, and it saddens me to think of what we could have had for the next installment of a superb saga. Though I originally found X-Men: The Last Stand enjoyable, I look back now and just feel disappointed with the final outcome.

There were many flaws to the film, though personally, the worst thing had to be how Fox treated Cyclops. Cyclops has always been my favourite X-Man, ever since I was young, and to see James Marsden's role shafted so badly, and replaced with the greatly overused Wolverine, it just f**ks me off thinking about it.

That pretty much sums up how I felt after watching the Teaser back in feb and after I joined the hype and before I saw the film in May. your second paragraph sums up a lot of how I feel about TLS since I saw the film. -sighs-

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Not trying to be a prick or anything, but if you don't have anything to contribute to this thread, could you please refrain from the typical insulting and sarcastic posts? People are having an intelligent discussion and it's very rude of you to come in trying to ruin everything.

There are threads praising X3 if you're tired of this.

That never stopped X3 bashers from running into our positive threads and making their negative opinions heard loud and clear.

Look, I'm not gonna say anything about the movie, because this is a thread for you guys that didn't like it. Just don't get mad... because X3 bashers have done the same thing in our threads for positive discussion on X3.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Cyclops...Cyclops...I don't remember him. Was he the one with the visor??? Lets in in X2 he hugged Jean, got in a three second fight with Yuriko, WAS MISSING FOR 48 MINS, then hugged jean again, and cried. -_-

Funny how in both x2 and x3 when he was gone, he was mentioned only once.

I think a far more fitting end to X2 would have been the original ending to God Loves. It had a bigger impact that Jean's useless sacrifice.

 

[Celestio]

4. Erik walking up to Charles with the quote "How does it look from there Charles? It doesn't look like they're playing by your rules. Maybe it's time we play by their's." And ends it with "Goodbye Charles" placing his hand on his wheelchair and walking away. There were NO moments like this in X3 as it just appeared they didn't like nor respect each other. Had Singer stayed on I would've loved to have seen more Charles and Erik moments.

Are you kidding? Did you not see the flashback scene at the start of the movie? Did you not see the look on Magneto's face as he watched his friend be killed and he couldn't do a thing about it? And finally, did you not see the scene with him defending Xavier in the woods?

"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is he had to die for our dream to live."

I'm sorry but I don't see how you can say in X3 it appeared as if they didn't like or respect each other.

 

[WideAwake]

Are you kidding? Did you not see the flashback scene at the start of the movie? Did you not see the look on Magneto's face as he watched his friend be killed and he couldn't do a thing about it? And finally, did you not see the scene with him defending Xavier in the woods?

"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is he had to die for our dream to live."

I'm sorry but I don't see how you can say in X3 it appeared as if they didn't like or respect each other.

But how did the professor die? Because Magneto was provoking Phoenix, turning her against him. Later on, he mocks Xavier's ideals with "Charles always wanted to build bridges". That doesn't seem very respectful to me.

BTW, great opening post, AVEITWITHJAMON. I totally agree with it. http://superherohype.com/forums/member.php?u=8746

 

[Celestio]

But how did the professor die? Because Magneto was provoking Phoenix, turning her against him. Later on, he mocks Xavier's ideals with "Charles always wanted to build bridges". That doesn't seem very respectful to me.

BTW, great opening post, AVEITWITHJAMON. I totally agree with it.

I don't think you can say the only reason Jean killed Xavier was because of Magneto. He was trying to turn Jean against Xavier so he could use her in his plan. I don't think that is out of character for Magneto, seen as though he did try and get Xavier to kill every single human in X2. I still think they respected each other in X3, especially with the line I quoted.

But I do agree with the bridges line. I've never liked it.

 

[the a1ant]

I didn't watch the whole X2 again (yet), but I went back through some of my favorite scenes, and forgot how good X2 was. It had smarts, a great script, and the imagery was much more inspired than with what we got in X3. Storm is my favorite in X2, character-wise. She gives her opinion, and shows lots of her mother-figure values. She also basically leads the team in the film (without 'out of character' Wolverine taking over like in X3). Cyclops was greatly underused in X2, but it was great seeing the love between him and Jean, and any scene James was in was a good scene. Such a shame how things ended with their arc.

If we could've mixed the smarts of X2, with the action of X3, I think we could've got an amazing film. I do love X3, but more for popcorn fun. They had a good concept for the storyline, but didn't make it deep enough, like the first two films. If Bryan and Brett directed an X-movie together, with the writers of X2, I think it'd be an amazing film.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

That never stopped X3 bashers from running into our positive threads and making their negative opinions heard loud and clear.

Look, I'm not gonna say anything about the movie, because this is a thread for you guys that didn't like it. Just don't get mad... because X3 bashers have done the same thing in our threads for positive discussion on X3.

The X3 bashers only came in the positive discussion threads because of posters like you, Maniac, and Danoyse coming into the negative discussion threads and so forth.

It goes both ways my friend, no one ruined your positive threads except yourselves.

 

[Mike059jig]

Yes I agree but all X-men movies are kinda worn out on me cause I watched them too much........Batman Begins I can watch forever though......X3 just proved that all these Movies are about Wolverine and the X-men.....

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Praising or bashing, I am sick and tired of people thinking that they are high and mighty enough to post their own review thread. Secondly, X2 has nothing to do with X3. If you want to praise X2 or X1, go to the correct forums. We 'had' a single review thread for this case but people thought they deserve their own threads. I am not just picking on this thread starter because a lot of other people have done the same thing on either side. Very rarely do we get a thread in here that poses a good and debatable question where people from both sides can come in and talk. But gripe thread after gripe thread after praise thread has gotten old very quickly.

Actually from my point of view there have been quite a few intelligent responses in this thread, it was pretty much broken and ruined when you decided not to contribute anything.

 

[tonytr1687]

I agree with pretty much everyone in this thread. I haven't been able to watch X2 myself since X3, because of the disappointment I felt during and after The Last Stand.

Here's some points that I think the majority will agree on.

1) Fans of X3 have said Singer wasn't entirely faithful to the X-Men comic universe. Yes, some changes were made but in the end those changes didn't deviate from the source material much. Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, and etc, etc.... were still intact in terms of their character and their stories. I felt what Singer was doing was basically starting out with Logan's story and finishing it so he can concentrate on Cyclops, Jean, Bobby, Rogue, Colossus, and even Nightcrawler.

Whether people agree with this or not, Singer was a lot more faithful to the comics than Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg were. It's funny how a non-fan like Singer(who admitted to not reading comics as a kid) makes a quality and more faithful comic book film, than the ones who claim to be the "biggest X-Men fans" and make a disappointing mediocre film.

2) Emotion over Action- I think this is another aspect that made X1 and X2 so great. The action was actually driven by the plot and it had a lot of heart, but in the end the storytelling is what really drove it home and made you feel/relate to these particular characters. What Singer has over Ratner is that he actually understands character development, storytelling, and dialogue. He knew how to leave the camera on that particular moment just a little while longer so the impact could set in.

Here are some examples.

1. Young Magneto trying to get to his family during the Holocaust. The shot of him screaming, crying, and extending his hand is a very powerful and emotional moment.

2. Rogue and Logan having a heart to heart. Regardless of how X3 supporters defend how much of a softie Logan became in X3, when Logan and Rogue have the heart to heart in X1 that is pure Logan. He isn't the guy breaking down in tears and becoming emo himself, he is basically comforting Rogue and understanding where she's coming from. That moment with him and Rogue on the train is very beautiful, sad, and heartwrenching at the same time.

3. Cyclops promising Xavier that he'd take care of them if anything happened. See, this is where the seeds were planted for him to become the major character he is. I truly believe Singer had EVERY intention on making Cyclops the main character, but he wanted to do it slowly, gradually, and do it when X3 finally came along. The seeds of this were planted in X1, in X2 it bloomed into a beautiful flower in the end, and he was shafted by the political agenda set by Fox.

4. Logan accidently stabbing Rogue through the chest. Logan's reaction is pure Logan and so was Rogue's reaction. You didn't see Logan breaking down like a baby in this scene did you? If anything stabbing the girl who looked at him as a father figure is enough to make you break down, but did he? So why in the world would he break down at the sight of Xavier's empty wheelchair?

5. Logan holding a lifeless Rogue on the Statue of Liberty. That was a beautiful moment and I literally cried at that same. The music, the atmosphere, the way Singer used the camera, and the whole tone really just moved me to tears. Words didn't have to be used in this scene it was a sad emotional moment watching Logan hold Rogue believing she was dead.

6. Cyclops taking his stand as a leader and overriding Jean saying, "I have a shot. I'm taking it." Granted not an overly emotional moment but you were on the edge of your seat waiting for him to do it and when he did it, you jumped for joy and praised him.

X2

1. Nightcrawler in the church with Jean and Storm. Another heartwrenching scene as you see how scared, harmless, and sincere he was after being struck down by Storm's lightning. Sometimes I have a hard time watching that scene without choking up a bit.

2. Rogue being sucked out of the plane. That was a truly unexpected as it happened so quick and I remember thinking, "Oh no." and when Nightcrawler bamfed to save her that moved me to tears of joy. A lot of X3 supporters point out how she became weak and crying there, well you know being sucked out of a plane isn't my idea of a good confident time either you know.

3. Pyro going insane after seeing Logan get shot in the head. You can see the rage, hatred, and fear in him before he exploded and he ended it perfectly with this line, "you know about all those dangerous mutants you here on tv? I'm the worst one." Perfect. I never get tired of that scene.

4. Erik walking up to Charles with the quote "How does it look from there Charles? It doesn't look like they're playing by your rules. Maybe it's time we play by their's." And ends it with "Goodbye Charles" placing his hand on his wheelchair and walking away. There were NO moments like this in X3 as it just appeared they didn't like nor respect each other. Had Singer stayed on I would've loved to have seen more Charles and Erik moments.

5. The real kicker was Scott watching Jean die. I remember slowly welling up and feeling the lumps in my throat, and when she dies Logan says "She's gone....She's gone" and to see Cyclops scream, punch, and push at Logan yelling at home "NOOO! YOU DON'T SAY THAT! WE'LL GET HER BACK." He just breaks down in the arms of a man he despises. That was a sad beautiful moment and well acted by Hugh and James. The other thing that made me cry was Nightcrawler saying a prayer during the moment of grief.

No matter what I always cry during that scene or if I don't cry, my eyes always get misty.

The end point? Singer had a better understanding of characters, stories, and emotion. Yeah, Ratner upped the action aspect and brought a bunch of different visual eye candy. However, in the end, did it really come up to anything? Did it really make you feel for any of the characters? I felt nothing in X3 as everything happened either to fast and when something happened, the impact wasn't allowed to settle in as Ratner basically admits "I want to keep it moving forward. That's my ADD frantic pace. Keep it moving, keep it moving. I get bored very easily."

In the end as of right now there's nothing we can do. The film is done and it has made its money back(Unfortunately). But we can still voice our opinion, voice our disappointment, and continue speaking out against Fox until we either get a worthy sequel or a restart(Like Batman Begins and Casino Royale).

The only thing about the restart that I'm against is the complete remaking of X1 and X2, since those were excellent films. However, just like they're completely restarting Batman Begins, maybe they should do the same with X-Men in about 5 or 6 years.

To close this thread on a unique interesting note. Here's my inspiration on how X3 should've ended in my opinion. It's a very emotional moment, powerful, sad, and yet it really reminds me of the Dark Phoenix Saga in every sense of the word. Keep in mind it didn't and doesn't have to be exactly like this, but the tone and the emotion behind it could've/should've been in this aspect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxOZBedhlmo

Agree with you on all accounts. Especially #5 under X2. Every time I watch that scene I get choked up. Marsden delivered those lines so well and with such realistic grief. Even with the visor over his eyes he was able to convey a genuine mix of anger and sadness.

 

[CapBeerCino]

I can still watch x-1, but I can't watch x-2. TLS got me hating movie-verse Wolverine, so watching x-2 is hard for obvious reasons. Also watching that perfect ending that once got me so hopefull is just... blah.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

i think X2 is better in almost every direction. With X3, they tried to force us fake emotions: "Now we're gonna kill this, this and that, and cure those, WOW the audience is sooooo gonna cry. WOW this "muvie" is, like, soooooo emotional. Killing him, him and her is soooooo gonna make evryone weep. WOW i rule". It just doesnt work like that. X2 gives us a true sad moment, a ture sense of loss, a true sense of darkness. And a true sense of hope, which, unfortunately, wasnt worthy.

I find the moment in which Kurt makes that little prayer one of the most emotional and sad moments of the trilogy.

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

I didn't watch the whole X2 again (yet), but I went back through some of my favorite scenes, and forgot how good X2 was. It had smarts, a great script, and the imagery was much more inspired than with what we got in X3. Storm is my favorite in X2, character-wise. She gives her opinion, and shows lots of her mother-figure values. She also basically leads the team in the film (without 'out of character' Wolverine taking over like in X3). Cyclops was greatly underused in X2, but it was great seeing the love between him and Jean, and any scene James was in was a good scene. Such a shame how things ended with their arc.

If we could've mixed the smarts of X2, with the action of X3, I think we could've got an amazing film. I do love X3, but more for popcorn fun. They had a good concept for the storyline, but didn't make it deep enough, like the first two films. If Bryan and Brett directed an X-movie together, with the writers of X2, I think it'd be an amazing film.

They wouldn't need Ratner because apparently Simon Crane the Second Unit Director did the bulk of the actual work.

 

[ntcrawler]

^^^ Don't let X3 control you. You all know deep down inside from the posts you made here, that based on what you saw in X1 and X2, events as portrayed in The Last Stand couldn't possibly happen. You all proved that you know better. So don't let it upset you. Don't let FOX force these opinions upon you

 

[La_She-Beast]

Are you kidding? Did you not see the flashback scene at the start of the movie? Did you not see the look on Magneto's face as he watched his friend be killed and he couldn't do a thing about it? And finally, did you not see the scene with him defending Xavier in the woods?

"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is he had to die for our dream to live."

I'm sorry but I don't see how you can say in X3 it appeared as if they didn't like or respect each other.

But it's sooo evident. Imo, it lacks that 'natural touch'. It looks as if it where stuck with superglue, like many of the phrases/scenes. I'm going to repeat it again and again, but the Beast/leech was like using a cheap glue bar. Sad part for Beast? (oh and Ratner's "I get tired easily". Sorry, Brett, but I can't forgive you with that one ) CHECK!! Let's kill Cyclops for once!

 

[lordofthenerds]

I don't think I could even compete with some of the posts on here so I'll just say....

Damn Fox, ratner, rothman and god!

 

[Farren]

X2 was THE perfect set up for a long, exciting, action packed movie but with lots of heart and sad moments. The thing that makes X2 superior are just the little character moments,....

The movie just doesnt move onto the next action scene after this death scene and really focuses on the effects it has on the characters who witnessed it. You just dont get moments like these in X3 and they make more of a difference than anything, and you can notice that X3 is missing this.

I really agree with these points. Strip away all the special effects and the heart of X1 and X2 are the emotional moments sprinkled throughout. Without the characters and their stories, there's really nothing to the films.

I agree that the death scenes are mishandled in X3: the rapid cutting to the next action scene or plotline really cheapens the deaths: we're never given the opportunity to feel or appreciate the impact. Perhaps the film-makers lacked the confidence in the death scenes and wanted to move on from them as quickly as possible.

2. Rogue being sucked out of the plane. That was a truly unexpected as it happened so quick and I remember thinking, "Oh no." and when Nightcrawler bamfed to save her that moved me to tears of joy. A lot of X3 supporters point out how she became weak and crying there, well you know being sucked out of a plane isn't my idea of a good confident time either you know.

This is a brilliant scene! It's a perfect blend of drama, action, suspense and emotion.