World Webs

[Chris Wallace]

And this post reiforced my preference for mechanical webs on comicbook spidey.... that's a bit too suicidal... slitting his wrists??? Suicide is wrong dude!

No-it just looks like suicide. It could be construed as such. Like the bridge scene in Cameron's script looked like rape. But that's another matter entirely. I'd prefer that his powers not entail self-mutilation.

 

[blind_fury]

Organics are nasty not to mention a huge step backwards for Spider-man. Mechanical webshooters made the character more sophisticated and complex. Organics are uninspired and boring. A six-year old could've came up with organics and they suggest anybody could've became Spider-man. Anybody. They also take away Parker's humanity, giving him the physiology of a spider. I guess if he ever has daughter she'll lay eggs.

Stan Lee came up with webshooters and he understands Spider-man better than Sam "stopped reading comics as a child" Raimi ever will.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'm not buying that. 1-it's no nastier than a guy who routinely cuts his hands open to unsheath blades that are housed in his forearms.
2-you wouldn't be putting the organic webbing down like that if he'd always had it.
3-how is it uninspired? Giving one more spider-like attribute to a person whose DNA was mutated to mimic a spider is uninspired? No-those stingers are uninspired & take away from his humanity. Being able to naturally produce webbing doesn't diminsh his humanity any more than being able to stick to walls. You're going to extremes w/these comments.

 

[blind_fury]

I'm not buying that. 1-it's no nastier than a guy who routinely cuts his hands open to unsheath blades that are housed in his forearms.

what are you talking about? Mechanical webshooter is technology that requires no holes in Parker's body. Organics involves body fluid that requires Parker have disgusting spider physiology.

2-you wouldn't be putting the organic webbing down like that if he'd always had it.

Well I know better thanks to a guy named Stan Lee. I now know that organics are relatively unsophisticated and repulsive. Thank you Stan Lee!

3-how is it uninspired? Giving one more spider-like attribute to a person whose DNA was mutated to mimic a spider is uninspired? No-those stingers are uninspired & take away his humanity.

"unispired" as in a stupid, literal interpretation of Spider-man without metaphysical concepts. A child could've came up with organics. It's such a simple idea. Spider-man produces web just like a real spider. wow. That's really uninspired and a HUGE step backwards for the character.

 

[CrypticOne]

I like them to be natural.

 

[Chris Wallace]

what are you talking about? Mechanical webshooter is technology that requires no holes in Parker's body. Organics involves body fluid that requires Parker have disgusting spider physiology.


Well I know better thanks to a guy named Stan Lee. I now know that organics are relatively unsophisticated and repulsive. Thank you Stan Lee!


"unispired" as in a stupid, literal interpretation of Spider-man without metaphysical concepts. A child could've came up with organics. It's such a simple idea. Spider-man produces web just like a real spider. wow. That's really uninspired and a HUGE step backwards for the character.

Sorry-that just doesn't make sense. And stop using Stan Lee as some kind of vindication b/c I haven't heard him complain once about the organic webbing in the movies. Now if you'd said that making him Iron Man's suck-up sidekick was a huge step backwards I'd agree w/you. None of what you're saying makes sense. No longer having to check his cartridges is a step backwards?

 

[blind_fury]

Stan Lee never criticizes other peoples interpretation of his characters so it's unlikely he would say if he was disappointed. My point was that he understands Spider-man better than Sam "stopped reading comics as a child" Raimi ever will.

And yes organics is a huge step backwards for the character. Spidey loses some of his humanity and sophistication. With organics, Parker has spider physiology giving him spider parts and organs. Simply gross and out of character. With organics Spider-man is also less sophisticated. Synthetic webbing is an invention that adds immensely to the Peter Parker/Spider-man character. He's a scientist who contributes something original to his crime fighter identity and arsenal. He a sophisticated superhero who is not just a one-note superpowered freak. Organic spidey just puts on his costume and fights crime. He relies completely on his super-powers. Stan Lee's Spider-man relies on his brain power to defeat mad scientist and super geniuses. That's the way it's meant to be. Dr Ock and Green Goblin have technological weapons and so does Spider-man. Do you think this is a coincidence?

Stan Lee's Spider-man is a thinking man's hero and a problem solver. His intelligence and lack of spider physiology retain his humanity. Sam Raimi's Spider-man is a hairy palmed, web squirting freak who relies on dumb-luck and is a literal interpretation of "spider"-man. Gone from the character is the technological achievement, the sophistication, and the metaphysical concepts. Replaced with predictable and uninspired spider powers that a child could've came up with. With organics, Spider-man is half the man he used to be.

 

[Bullseye]

I prefer the organic webbing.

Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Girl have the webshooters so I enjoy both versions of the webbing.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Stan Lee never criticizes other peoples interpretation of his characters so it's unlikely he would say if he was disappointed. My point was that he understands Spider-man better than Sam "stopped reading comics as a child" Raimi ever will.

And yes organics is a huge step backwards for the character. Spidey loses some of his humanity and sophistication. With organics, Parker has spider physiology giving him spider parts and organs. Simply gross and out of character. With organics Spider-man is also less sophisticated. Synthetic webbing is an invention that adds immensely to the Peter Parker/Spider-man character. He's a scientist who contributes something original to his crime fighter identity and arsenal. He a sophisticated superhero who is not just a one-note superpowered freak. Organic spidey just puts on his costume and fights crime. He relies completely on his super-powers. Stan Lee's Spider-man relies on his brain power to defeat mad scientist and super geniuses. That's the way it's meant to be. Dr Ock and Green Goblin have technological weapons and so does Spider-man. Do you think this is a coincidence?

Stan Lee's Spider-man is a thinking man's hero and a problem solver. His intelligence and lack of spider physiology retain his humanity. Sam Raimi's Spider-man is a hairy palmed, web squirting freak who relies on dumb-luck and is a literal interpretation of "spider"-man. Gone from the character is the technological achievement, the sophistication, and the metaphysical concepts. Replaced with predictable and uninspired spider powers that a child could've came up with. With organics, Spider-man is half the man he used to be.

One thing that isn't true is that Stan doesn't criticize other people's interpretations of his characters. He has gone on record more than once saying that he hated the 70's TV show & that he thought the reason for changing the Hulk's name for TV was asinine.