What can DC/WB do now to move forward? Is there hope? - Part 1

[Ivan Drago]

If it makes you feel any better, Thor 2 has the same average rating as MOS. It just got more fresh reviews than MOS.

 

[MbJ]

Stop making announcements for every little thing. If Flash loses it's director don't announce it until you have a replacement, same with Batman.

That's not how these things work. For one, I don't remember WB announcing those. They were picked up by trades like The Hollywood Reporter and Deadline.

If a director attached to a big budget movie simply isn't anymore, that's going to come out whether the studio wants it to or not. Don't ya think people would notice when a movie was supposed to start shooting at a certain date and then didn't?

 

[writer0327]

Doesn't it feel like DC is experimenting with different things to see what works?

 

[Wildcard]

More specifically, it feels like they're randomly throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks.

 

[Luke234]

If it makes you feel any better, Thor 2 has the same average rating as MOS. It just got more fresh reviews than MOS.

Critics liked Thor 2 more than Man of Steel? Wow. I didn't know that. That seems insane to me.

 

[Luke234]

There is an alarming problem recently with many films these days. Studios take a bass ackwards approach to them. What they should be doing is coming up with a story and characters and then casting so that the actors fit the characters. Instead they cast the actors and then try to make the story and characters fit the actor, even if they have to make massive changes. It almost never works, and it makes even less sense today when star power means less to the success of a film than it ever has.

Shazam absolutely should be first, and Black Adam should be a villain. But because they want The Rock as the star, they have do something that makes no sense to accommodate him.

I thought Black Adam came before Shazam in their history? If so, it seems it makes more sense to do Black Adam first. But I may in fact have this reversed.

 

[Luke234]

Supergirl season 2 has an average rating of 8.3/10

The Flash season 3 has 7.67/10

Arrow season 5 has 7.92/10

So regardless critics seem to like these franchises.

So critics like Supergirl season 2 more than MOS? Holy moly.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I thought Black Adam came before Shazam in their history? If so, it seems it makes more sense to do Black Adam first. But I may in fact have this reversed.

No, you're right. Black Adam is from Ancient Egypt modern day Kahndaq.

Roughly 5,000 years before Man of Steel.

And he starts off as a hero. So to get the "full story" between Teth's and Billy's rivalry it makes sense to do a Black Adam movie first.

 

[idiot09]

Doesnt Arrow S4 have 100% on RT? LOL. Such credibility.


Anyway DCEU can do nothing to move forward now. There is no hope. Its totally doomed. Doomed I say.

 

[Erzengel]

You have to remember movies and tv shows are almost apples and oranges. Less reviewers, etc.

Arrow only had 13 reviews.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Anyway DCEU can do nothing to move forward now. There is no hope. Its totally doomed. Doomed I say.

Acceptance is the first step to recovery. t:

I keed I keed

 

[idiot09]

Acceptance is the first step to recovery. t:

I keed I keed

 

[Chip Chipperson]

 

[idiot09]

 

[MbJ]

So critics like Supergirl season 2 more than MOS? Holy moly.

I've had stomach cramps I liked more than Man of Steel.

 

[kguillou]

I'd be curious to live in a world where Man of Steel had a different ending just to see how different the reception would've been.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Critics liked Thor 2 more than Man of Steel? Wow. I didn't know that. That seems insane to me.

What you meant to say is that more critics liked Thor 2 than MOS, not that they liked it more.

The same average rating means critics liked it the same, on average.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

What you meant to say is that more critics liked Thor 2 than MOS, not that they liked it more.

The same average rating means critics liked it the same, on average.

Both movies are around the rotten/fresh border. MoS a little under and Thor 2 a little over. It isn't like there is some great divide in the critical opinions of the two films.

 

[DA_Champion]

Both movies are around the rotten/fresh border. MoS a little under and Thor 2 a little over. It isn't like there is some great divide in the critical opinions of the two films.

It's jarring to some of us as MoS appears to be a vastly superior movie.

If MoS got a 56, then Thor 2 might deserve a 28 or so. Instead it got a 65.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I don't think MoS is the superior movie at all. I actually prefer Thor 2, by quite a bit. The main reason being that Chris Hemsworth delivers a far better performance as the lead protagonist than Henry Cavill does.

Some people just really need to accept that not everybody thinks the same way. If I happen to like a movie that gets 10% on Rotten Tomatoes, that doesn't make Rotten Tomatoes wrong. That just means I'm in the tiny minority.

In this case, the critics view Thor 2 as being roughly around the same or very slightly better than MoS.

 

[Samuron]

If MoS got a 56, then Thor 2 might deserve a 28 or so.

I can't agree. For all of its faults, TDW was at least original story; MoS was a rehash of an oft-told tale.

 

[Erzengel]

Calling MOS better than TDW is not exactly the highest of praises.

 

[2kt09]

Doesn't it feel like DC is experimenting with different things to see what works?

More specifically, it feels like they're randomly throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks.

You're both right.

 

[MbJ]

I don't think MoS is the superior movie at all. I actually prefer Thor 2, by quite a bit. The main reason being that Chris Hemsworth delivers a far better performance as the lead protagonist than Henry Cavill does.

Some people just really need to accept that not everybody thinks the same way. If I happen to like a movie that gets 10% on Rotten Tomatoes, that doesn't make Rotten Tomatoes wrong. That just means I'm in the tiny minority.

In this case, the critics view Thor 2 as being roughly around the same or very slightly better than MoS.

That's been the most absurd thing about these debates. People are just convinced the DCEU is perfect and anyone who doesn't like the movies must have some bias or ulterior motive for doing so.

 

[idiot09]

People are just convinced the DCEU is perfect and anyone who doesn't like the movies must have some bias or ulterior motive for doing so.

Yep. Thats what people are saying. DCEU is perfect, and everyone who doesnt like it, has bias. Nail on the head.