The Dark Knight Rises What do you not like about the movie?

[Lando81]

bane and foley's deaths were anti-climactic.

didn't like talia's inclusion.

fight scenes, especially batman v. bane round 2 was just poorly done.

also, how weak is the damn batplane? it was pathetic...those machine guns or whatever did nothing.

It was stated that The Bat was made for urban riot control. That means not killing people, generally low damage.

 

[Mace Dolex]

But his mouth is ALWAYS open with the suit on

I think because the the nose tip on the cowl plugs up his nose and therefore Bale has to breathe through his mouth, think of it when you're swimming with goggles on in a sense but I don't know how Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney were spared from this maybe their masks had nostrils in them.

 

[Juicy J]

I also hated how they didnt even try to make Gotham look not like NYC. I don't know anything about the Gotham of the comics and I can't really remember anything about the Gotham of the previous films, but I wish they would've at least tried to make it look like a separate city.

 

[Polaris23]

The Batman voice is actually Batman's voice. When Bruce is Batman that's his voice. Its not just done to disguise his voice. Bruce becomes "a terrible thought, a wraith" when he's Batman. As a result he changes his voice. That's why he uses it regardless.

Also I felt the hallucination was really Bruce just figuring things out on his own. He had been told about the mercernary, he had been told about Bane's story, he had been told about the child escaping, and he remembered Raz's words to him "Once I had a wife". So he was just peicing it together in his head. I was visualized as a hallucination but really its all just in his head.

Don't really get what you mean about Wayne Manor. When exactly are you referring to? I'm pretty sure Bane knew where Bruce lived but he had to take his time in order to let Miranda get control of Wayne enterprises and also trick them (Wayne board) into giving him control of the weapon.

Also I don't really see why you have a problem with the chant. It's in a different language so you're not supposed to know what they're saying. And for the record its "Deshi Deshi! Basara Basara!". And they very clearly say what it mean in English

-"What does it mean?"
-"RISE"

Don't get me wrong the film wasn't perfect but your gripes can be explained easily. Your'e welcome.

I'm glad you posted this. I was literally about to respond to his post with your same words.

 

[Mace Dolex]

Dont you think jumping for the ledge with a rope with a recently fixed bulging disc and then falling not once, but twice might have permanently messed up Bruces back?

it's movie magic.

Also the prisoners at Bruces prison werent even close to mouthing what they should have been. It was so bad that I was like huh? They're not even saying it...
What were they saying anyways?
"This is Awful, Awful!!"
"This is Awesome, Awesome!!!"
"This is Gotham, Gotham!!!"
"Hit the Bottom, Bottom!!!"
Couldnt tell.

They were yelling
"Huey, Huey!! Lewis, Lewis!!

And the biggest thing I did not like. Even tho Wayne Manor is not supposed to be IN Gotham city limits. Dont you think Bane would have sent men out to Wayne Manor to ransack and destroy?

That's a good point seeing as how Bane figured out his identity, but Bane just wanted to destroy Batman's spirit and soul.

 

[Polaris23]

You people who want the film versions to match up perfectly with the comics are being delusional. I don't like it because there is no Robin, because someone died, this is a limited film run by a director who is seeing it as his vision. He's not obliged to pay homage to every character, every interpretation, Batman being batman for 40 years, etc. Appreciate the films for what they are, don't nitpick at things that aren't in the film. Batman has been a comic character for over 70~ years, chances are some things are going to be left out. If you are going to gripe, gripe about something that is actually in the film.

Oh my god, somebody who understands! Amen!

 

[JayJustROTFL]

The thing i hated most about this film was the background music. Over dramatizing scenes needlessly.

 

[mao]

The thing i hated most about this film was the background music. Over dramatizing scenes needlessly.

It was so bad in IMAX. Gobbled up the dialogue. Much better in 2D

 

[CapedCrusader14]

It's funny that people are being bothered my the loudness of the music. It sounded perfectly fine to me and I saw it in IMAX.

 

[Lucifer Maranda]

Did anyone else think the Bat-plane was kind of nerdy looking?

I mean, I dunno, it just looked so fragile.

And it didn't seem to have enough girth to the way it moved almost like it was impossibly light to even be a real thing. It just looked really CGI-ish to me :/

I mean, I want to like it but I could't help think how weird it looks.
The Tumbler was so huge and powerful and this was like...ballerina-ish.

Like a balloon floating in the sky wrapped in cgi black tin-foil.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

Hmm the bat did seem less authentic than the batmobile or batpod. The whole movie seemed a bit comic booky and less nolany

 

[007]

A lot right with this film, on the whole I loved it, but like others a lot of dissapointing aspects.

Bane - How did he survive so long in prison without the mask if he cant stand the pain? Unless they are suggesting that talia found her father within about 10 mintues, but then after he cant survive without it? Made no sense.

How does he eat/drink? A guy with his level of muscle needs the correct diet. P'd me off that was not explained.

Bane being exiled, for being to monsterous, the exact thing the league of s wanted bruce to be.

Sorry to say it, but bane's size. Hardy acted well, but IMO that was not bane. It was some guy under 6ft, with big arms and a fat bely, that's not bane. I still feel if Nolan wanted the realistic feel to these movies then bane was the wrong way to go. He should of left him to a director that wanted to go a little more into the comic book realm.

Alfred leaving, wtf was that all about, alfred wouldnt abandon bruce. It was ridiculous. As was him not talking to him at the end, despite what he had previously said before that. Like he wouldnt of actually burst out crying, run up and hugged him.

Bruce retiring at the end, as someone said, in terms of being batman, he couldnt of done it longer than say, 18 months. Disappointing.

Blake becoming the new batman, no training about as physically intimidating as a new born puppy and just not batman esque at all, i mean seriously who would be intimated by him? And apart from that, bruce's advice of wear a mask is about the only thing he taught him. All though, I did think JGL performance, from an acting perspective was very good, its just silly what they did with his character.

Miranda tate's betrayal left me feeling emotionless, couldnt of cared less for it, infact she was a bloody pointless character, the film could survived fine without her.

Not enough batman, as someone has mentioned above.

Bruce wayne going bankrupt. Absolutley farcical plot point. And him giving away wayne mannor at the end, total bollux that was. infac the way he faked his death as bruce wayne was garbage, if he wanted rid of batman then fine, dont lead your loved one's and close friends to think you are dead.

The final battle between batman/bane, very rushed, should of been a good three mintues of them two in a room with batman beating him down, like bane did first time but vice versa.

Batmans knee injury in general.

The fact that after he climbed out of the prison his leg was fine, did his cartlidge magically return when he was doing sit ups?

The fact that there wasnt a shed of blood, and you really didnt see how ruthless and powerful bane could be. Next time, I hope they go for a 15 rating or whatever you guys have in america, because for me that aspect of the film, just to keep the rating down was ridiculous, you may aswell have had no deaths if tyou arent going to them in a proper way.

There was a lot of good points in this movie, but a lot of dissapointing aspects, ill buy it on dvd, watch it 100 times, but i still feel it was way below what it should of been and nolan/writers have to take the blame for that because there are far too many WTF were they thinking when they wrote that part moments in this film,

 

[007]

Oh, and another thing, how did batman put a shed load of petrol in the shape of a bat sign on that bridge. It was epic moment, but so ridiculous, things like that need explaining, if they are they then they are epic, if not it just looks stupid because its such a ridiculous thing to be able to acheieve, I mean how would you even begin trying to do something like that?

 

[Conundrum]

Thinking about it further, I am disappointed that Batman never really lead the troops against Bane. There was no rousing speech to rally the cops and lift their spirits; he just flew over them in the Bat.

The strategy was pretty basic too; just run full force against Bane's army without any weapons. It was the perfect situation to illustrate Batman's strategic mind. Imagine a scene showing Batman, Gordon, and Blake around a table, planning their attack using a map of the city (as in countless WWII movies).

 

[GamingFreak]

Was there time to evolve a strategy though.? I mean a bomb was to going to blow up in a little time.

 

[Conundrum]

Batman always has a strategy.

 

[miggizle85]

Conundrum you made a lot of good points. A few can be explained and a few are a bit nit picky considering the scale of the movie and the pace at which it speed along but most of your gripes were valid.

Also you reminded me of a complaint that I had about the film. The last battle. I mean if I'm not mistaken wasn't Bane's army armed to the teeth? Also I seem to recall that the cops only had their night sticks. A few had guns, like Foley, but most if not all of them charged unarmed. So by my calculations if Banes army had half a brain they would have realized that the best strategy would be unload their weapons and mow the cops down. It was literally like they thought the guns were better used as mellee devices. Lol. So stupid

 

[Heretic19]

I was disappointed there was no nod to the Joker. Obviously an impersonator or scene with him is just disrespectful and unoriginal. However, I believe that during the militarization of Gotham, Gordon or Bruce could have uncovered some bodies with Joker markings or something. Perhaps his card wedged somewhere of importance. Just having one, "Oh ****." moment would've have sent the audience into cheers every time.

Besides that there were two or three really bad transitions.Movie was amazing still.

 

[joker1524]

The very slow pace of the 2nd act right after bats gets broken...

 

[the_monk]

Here are my criticisms:

1) Bane's voice. Comical and vaudevillian in one scene, completely indecipherable in the next.

2) Sound mix. Always the mix problems with Nolan films.

Those are my main concerns. I'm in the minority here as someone who actually doesn't like comic book movies. I just like the way the Nolan's have grounded Batman and how they alone seem to understand the Joseph Campbell idea of a hero's journey. As far as I'm concerned, Hollywood could stop making comic books into movies and I'd be happy. The Dark Knight Rises is probably the most "comic book movie" of the trilogy, and at times I think that's what drags it down a bit. The other two films had that problem as well, particularly the third act of Batman Begins. I'm glad Nolan is ending it here, because I think the serious tone is unsustainable.

But that's just me.

 

[the_monk]

It was so bad in IMAX. Gobbled up the dialogue. Much better in 2D

The only way the movie is being shown is in 2D. But I know what you meant.

 

[zmystico]

John Blake possibly being batman. John blake being in the film at all (Major made up character).

I didn't mind the character, he was actually needed, and I was ok with Batman's teaching him lessons, I was even ok with him giving John the Batcave but I don't like the theory he becomes Robin. No way he'd dare bring back The Batman and he even told Batman he'd never wear a mask.

I think it would be cool if he just stayed John and used the Batputer/cave to help out Gordon when needed.

BTW, I saw it in IMAX and it was amazing, yes it was hard to understand 2 or 3 things Bane said, but for the most part he was very clear and articulate.

 

[zmystico]

Thinking about it further, I am disappointed that Batman never really lead the troops against Bane. There was no rousing speech to rally the cops and lift their spirits; he just flew over them in the Bat.

The strategy was pretty basic too; just run full force against Bane's army without any weapons. It was the perfect situation to illustrate Batman's strategic mind. Imagine a scene showing Batman, Gordon, and Blake around a table, planning their attack using a map of the city (as in countless WWII movies).

Actually the cops were armed.

 

[DieSmiling]

I didn't like the general tone and subject matter.

It simply didn't feel like a Batman movie to me -- it felt like a sequel to the Siege or some vapidly minded political wannabe that made no sense. In an effort to raise the stakes after TDK's serious terrorism feel it seems like they wanted to up the ante and go all out with something that just felt off kilter and preposterous.

And I hated the end. That's not Batman -- after showing such a great understanding of the character in Batman Begins they couldn't have gotten him more wrong by the third chapter. (and seriously, they basically ripped off Good Will Hunting)

Overall I still thought it was a quality film with some great performances and some cool action (definitely enjoyed Catwoman and Bane, thought Michael Caine was great, thought Batman's "rise" was well done) but it didn't have the feel of a Batman movie and the overall tone and storyline was just... Bad. Easily the weakest of the Nolan trilogy.

 

[gyzo33]

The only two parts that I didn't like was when Talia dies and the way she closes her eyes seemed fake.

The other part is when Blake is trying to cross the bridge and they blow it up, it seemed that Blake jumped up. It didn't seem right.