The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What villain would you like to see in Amazing Spider-man 2?

[Web face]

If Webb really felt he wasn't in control or Avi was giving him a tough time, he wouldn't be directing TASM2.

What about the paycheck? I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

 

[Jick]

He'll be forced to do two more Fox movies just because he decided to come back for TASM2. I don't think the paycheck was pivotal to his return.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

So I guess he won't direct TASM3.

 

[AF3619]

So I guess he won't direct TASM3.

i think he´ll make it then 1 fox movie then TASM3 and then the other fox movie,idk

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Sony's gonna blow it and announce TASM3 date like three months before TASM2 comes out again. Hopefully he can do something.

 

[Zucaro]

Let's hope he actually does a good job with TASM2...

 

[AF3619]

Let's hope he actually does a good job with TASM2...

i think he will, i liked what Marc did and i think that if he works with a better script and better editors we could get something REALLY good

 

[Zucaro]

i think he will, i liked what Marc did and i think that if he works with a better script and better editors we could get something REALLY good

Exactly the editing was horrible, I have no idea why many important scenes were deleted!... as you said: Marc did a very good job. If he wants the sequel to be a success he has to make a darker film ala The Dark Knight t:
And maybe the sequel might be our new Spider-Man 2

 

[AF3619]

Exactly the editing was horrible, I have no idea why many important scenes were deleted!... as you said: Marc did a very good job. If he wants the sequel to be a success he has to make a darker film ala The Dark Knight t:
And maybe the sequel might be our new Spider-Man 2

ala Dark knight?....i really don´t want more people saying TASM copied TDK.

 

[Zucaro]

ala Dark knight?....i really don´t want more people saying TASM copied TDK.

Me neither but many people keep posting "Oh, the sequel should be like The Dark Knight" and I can't stand it you know? The Dark Knight is not the only good sequel to be compared with upcoming sequels..

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

There is only one important scene cut from TASM and that's only if they don't bring Ratha back.

 

[Web face]

He'll be forced to do two more Fox movies just because he decided to come back for TASM2. I don't think the paycheck was pivotal to his return.

Oh yeah I forgot why there was a mystery of whether or not he is returning.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Thats doesnt mean he didnt want to kill him
What was the purpose of visiting the school then,just toss him around and give him bruises?
He says something along the lines of 'You are not get in my way of plan,Peter Parker' when he is arguing with his split personality in the sewers before the School fight.What does that tell ya?
What does lines like 'You stopped me once,you wont stop me again' tell ya?

But yet Lizard DIDN'T kill Spidey, so saying he wanted to kill him really means nothing when he didn't

No,its actually because I think it doesnt make sense to cut a scene at that point and then show the Lizard entering the street.

All that I'm saying is that it just makes much more sense than how the cut is with the theatrical cut. I am fine with us thinking Lizard eats Dr. Ratha and appears again on the street without bothering to kill Spidey.

Making excuses to say there was an additional gory scene of Lizard actually eating Dr. Ratha is only trying to help some point that the censor boards wanted the scene out.

It makes more sense than the theatrical cut but still doesnt make enough sense
I mean,does he just leave Peter lying there? Makes no sense.And then what? We see Spidey on the street calling Gwen on the Phone?

The bold is all you could've said from the get go, lol.

Lizard leaves Spidey lying there inside that library, so sure, why not just leave Spidey on the floor while Lizard moves on to bigger and better things?

They are plenty of times directors do alternate scenes and decide later what to put in the theatrical cut.
Iron Man and Iron Man 2 have alternate scenes and the movie looked better with what was shown than what wasnt.Raimi calculated it wrong

Those "plenty of times" are usually with films that have alternate scenes that makes more sense than what we've seen in the last two Spider-Man films.

And how can you say the alternate scene were better when no one has seen those alternate cuts in the first place? Maybe they were worse?

You can find out the deleted/alternate scenes anywhere as it's even been discussed many times, and to death, on the Spidey boards for Spider-Man 3. Those scenes are mentioned in the novelization of the film and were filmed and they were very much better than what we got in S-M 3.

FFS every movie has deleted/alternate scenes,learn that concept first.Its nothing new with TASM
Once again,what makes you think the alternate scenes in SM3 would have been better?
And before blaming Arad about TASM's sewer scene? Try to think about the logic behind it FFS
What would he stand to gain for removing the 3 minute scene?

Didn't know I said anything about not knowing that many films out there have had alternate scenes.

And while I already talked about S-M 3's other scenes, for the TAS-M question...hrm, let me guess...perhaps Arad wanted to shave time off? Perhaps it had something to do with Peter's other origin that the producers didn't seem to care about? "FFS", you should think for a moment besides trying to act like buddies-buddies with Avi Arad.

And I dont buy the trend of blaming Arad for everything wrong in Spider-man films

Great, you're the only one.

By wiser you mean blaming someone for something without any logic and source?

"Logic" such as blaming it on the censor boards

It had a ****** script and Arad was responsible for that too,go on say it

Well the script was fine, but it didn't seem like it when all the more important scenes were taken out.

If Webb really felt he wasn't in control or Avi was giving him a tough time, he wouldn't be directing TASM2.

A job is a job.

Me neither but many people keep posting "Oh, the sequel should be like The Dark Knight" and I can't stand it you know? The Dark Knight is not the only good sequel to be compared with upcoming sequels..

But The Dark Knight is the last great sequel we've seen and that's why everyone says the sequel can pull a TDK. It's a fair comparison; not bringing up anything Nolan-related but that TDK was the last great CBM sequel.

 

[Oscorp]

If ASM2 would get the same good criticism as TDK then I'd be one happy Spidey fan!

But on topic, I'm really, really excited if we get Electro in the sequel actually! He can end up being really badass!

 

[SpiderMan'sBoot]

^ Same! I've really warmed to the idea of Electro of late. I'd be interested to see what they do with the costume, be surprised if they keep the headgear haha.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

If ASM2 would get the same good criticism as TDK then I'd be one happy Spidey fan!

But on topic, I'm really, really excited if we get Electro in the sequel actually! He can end up being really badass!

I agree with the first part to a certain degree. I mean, yeah, it's cool when the majority of critics really enjoy something that I do but in all honesty I could care less what they think. I enjoy something because it resonates with me, not with someone else. For example, Grandma's Boy has a RT rating of 18%, which basically means it's rotten, lol. But I love the hell out of that movie. As soon as I'm done watching it, I'm ready to sit back down and watch it again.

The more I think about the possibilities with Electro I am becoming more and more excited about his character being used in the sequel. He's one of my favorite villains so I'd love to see him brought to life on the big screen. I'm very intrigued at this point.

 

[Oscorp]

Definitely Webhead, I agree with you! But would still be awesome nonetheless!

 

[Anno_Domini]

I definitely agree that I don't really care that much about critics and their opinions, but at some point, any fan would be thrilled to have many critics loving a film as was the day with The Dark Knight, S-M 2, etc.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Definitely Webhead, I agree with you! But would still be awesome nonetheless!

I definitely agree that I don't really care that much about critics and their opinions, but at some point, any fan would be thrilled to have many critics loving a film as was the day with The Dark Knight, S-M 2, etc.

Yeah, yeah, lol, I'm with you guys. At the end of the day, imo, it doesn't matter what someone else thinks but it's still nice to be able to say that something is critically acclaimed too.

 

[©KAW]

I definitely agree that I don't really care that much about critics and their opinions, but at some point, any fan would be thrilled to have many critics loving a film as was the day with The Dark Knight, S-M 2, etc.

Yeah, but The Dark Knight actually deserve it. t:

 

[Anno_Domini]

Yeah, but The Dark Knight actually deserve it. t:

 

[Shikamaru]

Haven't checked or been on this thread in a few days but damn, it's a mess. Tons of people arguing about all sorts of stuff. Some are true, some are complete BS, some are just alright. There are a couple I would address now but I think I'll wait till this thread cleans itself up a bit.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

A job is a job.

And I'm sure Webb could of found a better job if he wanted too. Which means he felt he wasn't forced to do anything.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He'll be forced to do two more Fox movies just because he decided to come back for TASM2. I don't think the paycheck was pivotal to his return.

What two movies?

 

[Spiderdevil]

But yet Lizard DIDN'T kill Spidey, so saying he wanted to kill him really means nothing when he didn't

Maybe because he was turning back into human,we see his human form in the sewer in that deleted scene

Making excuses to say there was an additional gory scene of Lizard actually eating Dr. Ratha is only trying to help some point that the censor boards wanted the scene out.

I am not making excuses,that how I actually felt when I first saw the scene

Lizard leaves Spidey lying there inside that library, so sure, why not just leave Spidey on the floor while Lizard moves on to bigger and better things?

Thats because he was turning back
Why does he visit the school if he didnt want to kill Peter in the first place,what does words like 'You wont come in between my plans anymore,Peter Parker' means?

Those "plenty of times" are usually with films that have alternate scenes that makes more sense than what we've seen in the last two Spider-Man films.

And how do you know the ones removed in Sm3 made more sense?
And you are missing the point,you made it seem like director dont generally film alternate scene
A lot of them do,they decide later what to put into the movie,they mostly make the correct choice,maybe Raimi made the wrong choice? and it had nothing to do with Arad

You can find out the deleted/alternate scenes anywhere as it's even been discussed many times, and to death, on the Spidey boards for Spider-Man 3. Those scenes are mentioned in the novelization of the film and were filmed and they were very much better than what we got in S-M 3.

Maybe but that doesnt prove that Arad had to do anything with it

perhaps Arad wanted to shave time off?

They wouldnt remove such a major scene if they wanted to shave time off

Perhaps it had something to do with Peter's other origin that the producers didn't seem to care about?

The scene doesnt hint strongly at a changed origin and if thats the case,why was the bathroom scene removed aswell? Especially after showing it at the comic con

"Logic" such as blaming it on the censor boards

Still better than 'Hey that scene was ****,I bet Arad had something to with it'

Well the script was fine, but it didn't seem like it when all the more important scenes were taken out.

It wasnt fine,it was a ****** script.