The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What villain would you like to see in Amazing Spider-man 2?

[Oscorp]

I'd want a moment where Electro wants information from a guy and tortures him to get answers by giving electric shocks. Then Electro underestimates his own powers and ends up killing the guy. This is the start of Electro realising how powerful he could be, and later on he realises it even more by draining energy from stuff and using it as powering himself up, among other signs.

I also think Electro should die in the end. He should be so powerful that the final battle should result in his death.

I love all your suggestions spider-neil.

One thing I hope Arad & Co aren't stupid enough to do is to make Uncle Ben's killer become Electro. That would be so awful!

Anyways, why I think this Electro rumour is so likely is that:

A) He is one of Spider-Man's most powerful enemies. They can be extremely innovative with him.

B) He has a very interesting personality that is different from other villains. He has the potential to be a very deep and memorable villain. This is why he's one of my favourite villains and why I hope he won't simply be a "pure evil" kind of villain because that's not who he is. He should be twisted and sick but not because of being a psychopath like modern Osborn, but because of his confusion, insecurity, hunger for power and eventually God complex. IMO he shouldn't be created at Oscorp but he should be used by Osborn, until the second or third act where he realises he's the most powerful being ever and follows his own agenda.

C) He actually fits very well in where Sony want to go with the sub plot about Oscorp's involvement in the death of Peter's parents. Not that Electro should be directly involved in it in any way. But he doesn't require too much backstory I think, which gives more time for the sub plots to get some answers. What I mean is that Electro could be the main threat but still not need to be the main focus of the film. The main villain should really be Norman Osborn.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Electro or not, I still think that the guy at the end was Norman...

 

[Oscorp]

I'm pretty sure that's Norman as well. He'll probably be the other "unspecified" villain of the film, meaning the hint was still accurate.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

yep. Even if there's no Green Goblin, Norman can still be a villain

 

[spider-neil]

One good thing about Electro is you can do most things 'in camera' so you wont get taken out of the movie with poor CG. Hopefully he will have chrisma which we haven't had since Doc Ock. And for pity sake, just make him a bad guy. 'I want to do bad things because I want to make money and I'm fine with that', enough witht he sympathetic villians already.

 

[spider-neil]

Electro or not, I still think that the guy at the end was Norman...

I thought it was Electro, he appears and disappears in a lightning strike.

 

[LegendAssemble]

One good thing about Electro is you can do most things 'in camera' so you wont get taken out of the movie with poor CG. Hopefully he will have chrisma which we haven't had since Doc Ock. And for pity sake, just make him a bad guy. 'I want to do bad things because I want to make money and I'm fine with that', enough witht he sympathetic villians already.

Electro to some degree is a sympathetic villain though.

 

[SymbioticToxin]

If anything, have him sympathetic in the beginning, but as the movie goes along he becomes more and more unsympathetic. A result of his power effecting his mind perhaps (Again, depending on how he gets them) or crossing the line one too many times and believing he's in the right, stuff like that.

 

[Oscorp]

If anything, have him sympathetic in the beginning, but as the movie goes along he becomes more and more unsympathetic. A result of his power effecting his mind perhaps (Again, depending on how he gets them) or crossing the line one too many times and believing he's in the right, stuff like that.

This!

To just think "sympathetic/not sympathetic" is kinda two dimensional. Webb & Co shouldn't have that kind of mindset. They should instead think "OK let's make this an interesting, deep character that's true to the comics".

 

[spider-neil]

SM1 - Goblin's powers effected his mind
SM2 - Doc Ock's powers effected his mind
ASM - Lizard's powers effected his mind

Let's move away from this in the sequel.

 

[DyeLorean]

SM1 - Goblin's powers effected his mind
SM2 - Doc Ock's powers effected his mind
ASM - Lizard's powers effected his mind

Let's move away from this in the sequel.

Yes, please.

 

[SymbioticToxin]

SM1 - Goblin's powers effected his mind
SM2 - Doc Ock's powers effected his mind
ASM - Lizard's powers effected his mind

Let's move away from this in the sequel.

SM1- Goblin serum effected his mind, not the powers.
SM2- The fried inhibitor chip effected his mind.
ASM- Serum/Lizard persona (Depends on how you look at it) effected his mind.

It wasn't the powers, it was the thing that gave them their powers.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Isn't it affected and not effected though. I mean you could say, "The effect of the Goblin serum affected the mind of Norman."

 

[melvintwj]

Cool things you can do with Electro's powers

1. You can make him travel by moving along electrical cabel i.e. from one power socket to another. The next best thing to teleporting.

2. Electrical blast (pretty much a given)

3. Controlling electrical objects. i.e. he could cause traffic by turning all the lights red. Steal money from ATM machines. Cause a blackout to the entire city.

4. Control the electrical signals in the brain.

5. Stop someone heart and the start it again (this happens in James Cameron's script).

Cool things I want to see;

A) Round 1:
Electro takes Spidey to the cleaners, messes with the brain waves in his head to disorentate him and then stops his heart only to start it again.

B) Spidey works on a electrical proof costume as Electro is so powerful he can melt through rubber (to get around Spidey simply wearing rubber gloves and soles)

C) Electro drains the power of the city so he is super powers and the final fight is in complete darkness apart from Electro lighting the scene.

I like the idea of part C). It gives the potential to showcase Spidey's Spider Sense in complete darkness!

 

[spider-neil]

I like the idea of part C). It gives the potential to showcase Spidey's Spider Sense in complete darkness!

Just imagine Electro losing it because Spidey is poping out of the shadows to land and punch and then disappears into the shadows again.

 

[©KAW]

Nolan created the shadows, so we can't use that.

 

[AF3619]

Nolan created the shadows, so we can't use that.

haha, loved the joke!

 

[Shikamaru]

Nolan created the shadows, so we can't use that.

He also created intelligent and complex stories with good character development. So we can't use those either.

 

[©KAW]

Allow him to pull up his pants now, Shikamaru.

 

[Thwip!]

Loving Oscorp's ideas it must be said

 

[mr. peasant]

SM1 - Goblin's powers effected his mind
SM2 - Doc Ock's powers effected his mind
ASM - Lizard's powers effected his mind

Don't forget the symbiote affecting Brock's mind when he became Venom.

Let's move away from this in the sequel.

Agreed.

What about a villain acting out of desperation? Electro constantly unleashes loads of electricity, right? That's a lot of his energy that he's spending. So, what if in order to survive, he needs to consume an equally large amount of energy/electricity as well?

 

[spider-neil]

I want Electro to do what he does because he is powerful and feels he should be in charge. Simple motivation, none of this sympathetic stuff, we've seen it already.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I thought it was Electro, he appears and disappears in a lightning strike.

the lightning barely shines inside the cell, let alone from the person. No offence, but visually that theory makes no sense what so ever

 

[Oscorp]

Loving Oscorp's ideas it must be said

Thanks!

I want Electro to do what he does because he is powerful and feels he should be in charge. Simple motivation, none of this sympathetic stuff, we've seen it already.

I feel this shouldn't be about sympathetic or not. Webb should be able to reach a grey area. Dillon should have inferiority complex that results in a God complex when he realises his powers, because then he can "get even" with what he's missed before. So about that, I agree with you. He shouldn't suddenly turn good in the end and save the day, make a sacrifice or anything like that. But he should be a tragic character. I feel he's kinda like Loki. He feels inferior and tries to make up for it.

So to me, he shouldn't be a psychopath or anything like that, who's born evil. That's Osborn's thing. Electro should be kinda like many murderers out there. What he does is sick, twisted and everything like that. But if you see his history, you kinda feel sad for him even though what he does is horrible.

I want to feel that way with Electro. He shouldn't be a good guy or anything like that but as I said, he should be pretty tragic. I want to feel "holy **** this dude is crazy!" but still not wanting him to die (though he should still die if you ask me).

One problem is that it would be very hard to get this through in the film. I mean, Webb shouldn't spend any time showing Dillon's backstory IMO. But if there's anything Webb is great at, it's showing characters' thoughts by how they express their emotions and things like that. I think Webb can manage to get through the complexity of Electro well

 

[spider-neil]

I don't even think they should waste time on an Electro's origin. I'm here, I have powers, let's all deal with it and move on.