Hey there turbotwotone!
turbotwotone said:
Well I'm not too sure about having 4 villians in SM3...I'm sure that by that 2-3 of them will either be quick cameos or appear at the end of the film, much like the speculation has been going on Venom. Having more than one central villan would clutter up the plot, and would turn in to a battle for screen time. After all...we all can remember Batman & Robin...ouch!! enough said. With that said I think that the central villan for SM3 will be Sandman...I think Goblin2 will likely either appear towards the end of SM3 or very sparsley in between parts of the 3rd movie. It would be best to really save his main performance untill SM4 or 5...dragging out the fact that peter wouldn't find out it was Harry until after they had been battling each other...much like their relationship from SM1 & 2. I honestly don't think Venom will be in SM3 much at all, and if he is-I agree he will likely be some sort of cliffhanger at the end of SM3. Venom is easily a stand alone villan and rightfully deserves his own movie, which is why I think they will likely hold off on using him until SM4. Besides Venom would likely need to be mostly CG, being as how his suit is living and can take many different shapes...and mostly for the action sequences, much like spiderman is now. Holding off on Venom until SM4 would give them that much more time to really nail doing fully CG characters and for technology to come that further around. AS for the rest of the possible characters...the only blank left is Dr. Conners set up from SM2. I think that it needs to be much later before he comes into the fold. Anyway, here are the rest of my predictions and/or wishlist for the future SM movies.
SM3: Sandman(main), w/ possible Goblin2 appearance, and Kat. She would serve as another possible love interest for Peter and really cause some drama between her and MJ.
I disagree with your assessment. Its illogical to think that Venom's inclusion will be a mere token appearance. This is the end of the Spider-man trilogy. While I can see Raimi coming back I don't see Maguire returning. I think they'll tie up all loose ends but syill leave the possibility for the villains to return in some way.
I don't think this movie will leave a cliffhanger and I don't think we will see Venom in #4.
turbotwotone said:
SM4: Venom (main) Nothing more needs to be said...Venom is quite possibly one of the most classic SM villans and also on of SM's most formidable. This is Venoms show alone. Also possible Goblin 2 appearance.
I disagree, and I don't think we'll see Goblin 2 either in the fourth movie.
Spider-man 4: Personally I think we will have Lizard and Kraven. They have teased Lizard's character since the first movie. It also makes sense to bring Kraven in to hunt the Lizard and then have Spiderman get in the middle. They may also bring in Blackcat.
turbotwotone said:
SM5: Goblin2(main) This is where the battle between Harry and Peter comes to a climax. Peter learns who the goblin really is and must confront his best friend. Also-Possible Lizard appearance...this is where they could bring Connors in.
Again I disagree, its called Spiderman, not the Green Goblin show!
Venom in two movies, Green Goblin in four!? I don't think so. They'll want to mix it up much better than that.
Spider-man 5: Mysterio (played by Bruce Campbell) and Chameleon. It makes more sense to bring Chameleon in after Kraven. Maybe also use Rhino in this movie.
turbotwotone said:
SM6: Either Lizard(main) and/or Mysterio(main). I think either one of these villans would make for an exciting 6th installment. Although I think Mysterio would be more menasing, I think it would also be propper to bring in Connors as the main villan as it was established in the 2nd film.
I disagree...seems to be a running theme doesn't it.
Its far too tempting to have the Sinister Six in the sixth movie. I mean if thats not the perfect opportunity I don't know what is!?
turbotwotone said:
--Anything after 6--
SM7: Carnage(main) I don't know if Carnage is a classic enough character to ever warrant his own movie (being as how he is pretty new) I still wouldn't mind having him in a film. I think that it would be at this point he could be brought in.
Possibly.
Once you do the Secret Six I think the only remaining classic villains of interest are:
Carnage, Hydroman, Swarm, Scorpion and possibly Shocker (although I don't think he is a great villain).
Also I don't see any point to doing a Spider-man 7 if you are not going to have an 8 and a 9.
Its not totally obvious who to pick at this point.
7 - Scorpion and Venom/Carnage/Symbiote movie
8 - Kraven (who commits suicide), Swarm used instead of Vermin?
9 - Hydroman and Sandman
turbotwotone said:
SM8: Shocker(main, Rhino(side). I think shocker could be cool enough as a main charcter although rhino would have to be a side character. He's too goofy of a character to have his own film. I also wouldn't mind seeing him in possibly SM3 or 4 as a side character.
I actually agree with you that Rhino should only be used as a side character.
turbotwotone said:
SM9: Kraven the hunter...or anyone else that is left at this point andd hasn't gotten their debut in one of the SM films. Being as how i'm 23 now...I would likely be in my 40's before they could ever get to a 9th movie.
I agree with you that it will start running out of steam (or at least classic villains by this point). Only a series of The Mighty Thor movies could outlast Spider-man before becoming repetitive.
turbotwotone said:
Anyway...I can't wait for Spider-Man 3 in 2007...I think it has the potential to be the best entry in the SM series so far. I have very high expectations for part 3 and I know that sam saimi won't dissapoint. If there are more movies to be made after SM3...I hope they get back Raimi as well as the whole cast to do them, including Toby Maguire, which would be a feet in itself.
Agreed. But unlikely. I'd make sure any new cast signed on for another three movies (Spidey 4, 5 and 6), and I can't see Toby Maguire doing that.