BvS Which Green Lantern should be used? - Part 1

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The mask and neckline look silly to me.

 

[regwec]

Wow...I'm shocked that a comic book fan has such a low opinion of the medium. Although the reader has the accept the eventual return to the status quo via the nature of the business, what happens in between can be truly sublime.

Comics are the modern incarnation of the pantheon. They're direct descendants of the morality tales of the heavens. Comics are proof that humans still like to explore the outer margins of their imaginations even in a time where polytheism is mostly a thing of the past. They have endured because they showcase our highest aspirations and our worst fears.

Laughably pretentious claims of this type are often made, but every geek genre has its reflexive justification. As it happens, I don't have a "low" opinion of comics per se, but I do recognise that most superhero comics are dull, derivative and cynically commercial. They are designed to cross-reference, interweave and sell more comics while dragging out small ideas over as many pages as possible.

The fact is that I am not new to reading superhero comics. I have been doing so long enough to see the same old crap again and again, with diminishing returns. Homilies that equate them with the Illiad are belied by the evidence. I wouldn't have admitted that ten years ago, but now I can, and the occasional gem still keeps me interested.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

In fairness, as much as I usually disagree with Reginald, he's not wrong. I'm only actually reading one title at the moment. I can acknowledge that the New 52 is, on the whole, better than the pre-relaunch world.

But being a relaunch completes the entire ouroboros that Frank Miller, Alan Moore and Grant Morrison often insert into their works.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

 

[Wise]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

I'd prefer that. Since Bruce is going to be in his forties I'd want at least one other hero being that age so Bruce doesn't seem like a damn babysitter.

Hal would work as he's had the grey temples in continuity. You could play with Hal being a pilot and being away from earth for a long time, then coming back and being surprised at how much air combat has changed with zero dogfights and drones being commonplace.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Laughably pretentious claims of this type are often made, but every geek genre has its reflexive justification. As it happens, I don't have a "low" opinion of comics per se, but I do recognise that most superhero comics are dull, derivative and cynically commercial. They are designed to cross-reference, interweave and sell more comics while dragging out small ideas over as many pages as possible.

The fact is that I am not new to reading superhero comics. I have been doing so long enough to see the same old crap again and again, with diminishing returns. Homilies that equate them with the Illiad are belied by the evidence. I wouldn't have admitted that ten years ago, but now I can, and the occasional gem still keeps me interested.

Comics often lack the beautiful prose of the classics, but they can match or supersede the emotional content and character interaction of finite stories. Endless continuity and re-imaginings have sometimes done damage, but they have also added layers and weight to many comic book mythos.

You and I must see different versions of "evidence". I see a genre that has adapted to match or gain popularity over several generations. When a person can walk into a national or international book chain and see several shelves dedicated to TPBs/HCs of well-known super hero stories, that's proof that those stories have substance.

What happens when studios pluck a character completely from its element is usually some travesty like Steel or Catwoman. Only the changes that are absolute necessities are defensible.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Comics are just like anything else.

Only a tiny percentage of all the books, tv shows, movies, and video-games released are any good.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

As long as a half way decent characterization is there I'm cool with whatever age they want whatever character to be.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

As long as he has grey temples.

Comics are just like anything else.

Only a tiny percentage of all the books, tv shows, movies, and video-games released are any good.

The trouble doesn't lie in the media. If you actually look at all comic books, there's plenty of very good character tales that just tell a story and are done.

The problem lies in the nature of American comic books. Characters are only allowed to grow to a certain point, then stagnate, then get regressed, and we see this happen again and again. DC and Marvel can create great stories, no doubt, but their franchises aren't good. But it's the same as how they exist on film.

Christopher Nolan's main aim with The Dark Knight Rises was give Batman an end because the comics never do so. But the films don't either, because here we are, still getting Batman films. They're as circular as comic books.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Comics are just like anything else.

Only a tiny percentage of all the books, tv shows, movies, and video-games released are any good.

That's a depressing perspective. Perhaps I'm too forgiving, but I find varying degrees of redeeming qualities in most of the books, shows, and movies I've read/seen. Comics are my best bet for satisfaction, even after 35 years of reading them. I've only read a few stories that were absolute dung.

 

[regwec]

Comics are just like anything else.

Only a tiny percentage of all the books, tv shows, movies, and video-games released are any good.

That's exactly right. It must also be borne in mind that the sheer number of superhero comics produced is almost incomparable with any other medium. There are some great comics, but inevitably there is a lot of crap.

For that reason, I think that movies have an opportunity to synthesise the good into a superior creation, by dispensing with all of the crap that just happens to be "canon".

 

[Flint Marko]

That's a depressing perspective. Perhaps I'm too forgiving, but I find varying degrees of redeeming qualities in most of the books, shows, and movies I've read/seen. Comics are my best bet for satisfaction, even after 35 years of reading them. I've only read a few stories that were absolute dung.

I agree. Not every single one is going to be particularly memorable, but it's serialized entertainment. I can find redeeming qualities in a lot of the subpar stories as long I'm enjoying myself.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

Yeah I probably would don't want a rookie. So then we could introduce John,Guy and Kyle and do a Green Lantern Crops film.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

i don't think age is much of a factor when it comes to a some of these dc roles honestly, ww is immortal (essentially) as is supes, but he tends to look early-mid thirties, as does bats. it really will depend on the actor. I'd like josh hartnett, but I'd like fillion as well.

 

[Fallen Angel]

i don't think age is much of a factor when it comes to a some of these dc roles honestly, ww is immortal (essentially) as is supes, but he tends to look early-mid thirties, as does bats. it really will depend on the actor. I'd like josh hartnett, but I'd like fillion as well.

Yeah good point.

Just as long as Ryan Reynolds doesn't suddenly turn up again I'll be glad. Though in fairness he wasn't to blame for the cluster**** of the Green Lantern film.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Wouldn't mind Fillion as an older Hal if he could get into shape for the role. I also wouldn't mind Matt Bomer, and oddly enough Joe M or James Marsden.

If they went with John Stewart Danny Sapani would be interesting if he could pull off the accent.

 

[harryoscop]

Would anyone be against an older hal jordan, more seasoned and probably around the age of Bruce Wayne?

No thanks, I prefer he be in his middle thirties.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Like someone said earlier the age isn't really that big of a factor. But I wouldn't be against an older Hal, it adds just a little more diversity. And we've seen an older hal in the comics as well. But a younger guy would work equally as well.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Late twenties to mid forties is fine by me.

 

[harryoscop]

Gamma Goliath You're right considering Ben is the only one in his forties I'd still prefer a younger Hal, but I wouldn't be against an older Hal.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think seeing an older hal would be cool becuse he could be a master at his abilities. He could be portrayed as very dangerous and formidable.

 

[Rorschach2012]

was watching Serenity last night. Holy ****ing **** Nathan Fillion would be so perfect for Hal, it's not even right how perfect he'd be.

He's put on a few lbs but that mofo could still destroy the Hal Jordan role. If he's cast, I'll be ecstatic. It'd be perfect casting.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I was watching something that had Tim Daly in it today. It just hit me that if a Green Lantern movie was made in the late 1990s, he would have made a perfect Hal Jordan.

 

[RadioSha]

Guys. I have a thought.

What if one of Wonder Woman's actual superpowers in the movie is that she never ages? What if she was born in ancient Greece and she was worshiped by the people because of this miracle? A cult known as the Amazons was formed and separated themselves from everyone else. Some way or another, she ultimately decides to leave her island and travel the world and exist throughout history trying to keep peace among all people. Her immortality allows her to have a truly insightful perspective on conflicts and would be able to give advice for both Batman and Superman.

That costume you see is her battle costume from a long time ago and it's been a while since she's worn it- though, when duty calls, she answers.

Maybe only the U.S. government now knows of her existence. But maybe she's been doing her work in secret, taking on different identities every century.

It's totally out the canon, but that would be cool.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Lol. in the green lantern thread though?