The Dark Knight Rises Which villians are MOST LIKELY to appear?

[The Major]

thats what i think from what we know so far...might change every day, of course

most likely:

- hugo strange
- scarecrow
- joker (fear gas hallucination)

maybe:

- riddler
- deadshot
- talia
- rupert thorne
- black mask
- some small villain (mr. zsasz, the spook, etc...)
- joker (off screen text)

unlikely:

- catwoman
- penguin
- two face
- ra´s al ghul
- bane
- mr freeze
- poison ivy
- joker (recast)

Wasn't there a rumor how the next film involved the League coming back to break Joker from Arkham? I'd say that would make Talia more likely to be in a sequel then Riddler.

If this is true, of course.

 

[Bunker]

The Riddler is almost a guarantee, probably Catwoman or Penguin also.

 

[The Major]

The Riddler is almost a guarantee, probably Catwoman or Penguin also.

Because Caine said so?

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

The Riddler is almost a guarantee, probably Catwoman or Penguin also.

Oh? Where did you get your information?

 

[Bunker]

Oh? Where did you get your information?

My brain.

 

[Bunker]

Because Caine said so?

That and they are very well known to the general public.

 

[Laderlappen]

Why wouldnt Bane work with a young Batman?

 

[Bunker]

I would personally love to see Bane, Nolan could do something great with him.

 

[TomPiltoff]

That and they are very well known to the general public.

Caine wasn't being serious.

 

[TLGunfighter]

I'm not sure who will be next nor what I really want to see but I know what I don't want. I'm not sure I really wanna see either the Penguin or Catwoman. DK presented us with the Joker, a villain so intense he pushed Batman to his very edge, even Batman himself was skeptical as to whether or not he could stop the Joker. Harvey was not as intense but was relevant to the storyline, it was the rise and fall, a reason for Batman to continue to be Batman. He wasn't an incredible villain but he was necessary to advance the emotional struggle within Bruce Wayne.

The next movie has to be bigger and better than DK, it should be the wrap up of Nolan's three story arc. It has to follow what Batman plans to do as Gotham hunts him, whose going to take control of the criminal underground now that the Joker has devastated it. DK established the common knowledge of Batmans immense physical strength coupled with his limitless resources and the love of the people.

Even the Joker knew not to go head on with Batman but rather draw him into a game of wit. The Jokers intellect helped establish his menace and gave his character mystique. That being said I'm not quite sure how either Penguin or Catwoman would fit into the third. First Catwoman is but a glorified cat burglar, she provides no menace as Batman often overpowers and outwits her in the comics, the relationship is love hate and Catwoman often was nothing more than a pest to Batman. Considering all that its safe to say that not only would she not provide menace or a challenge to Batman she would not even be essential to the storyline. At most I could see her being as much of a villain as Two-face was. Harvey was not the villain but Two-Face, Two-Face however got minimal screen time and was really only necessary to show the downfall and madness of Harvey, as a villain he wasn't too great.

The Penguin would not only be a mismatch but more of a joke, it would be a cop out to introduce him in the final chapter. This last movie should be a showdown possibly between the Joker, it has to push the Batman even farther and could possibly be the end of the Batman story. I'm simply saying why introduce characters we've seen before? [Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler so on and so forth] when Batman is so ripe with interesting villains? Its quite possibly the last Batman film Nolan will do, why not see something new? Both Ra's and Scarecrow weren't seen in the movie before and we saw what he was able to do with that. I say we need to start thinking more out of the box. No Catwoman, that's my vote.

 

[the_scream]

Didn't Goyer and Nolan say they weren't going to use one of Batman's typical characters if there was a third film, referring to the fact that both Ra's and Scarecrow were successful and many audience members were unfamilar with them.

I think it could be someone like Hugo Strange.

 

[TLGunfighter]

Didn't Goyer and Nolan say they weren't going to use one of Batman's typical characters if there was a third film, referring to the fact that both Ra's and Scarecrow were successful and many audience members were unfamilar with them.

I think it could be someone like Hugo Strange.

Good, I'm glad, anything but a female cat burglar in tight clothes. Honestly how is that a threat to Batman? If we're going to introduce irrelevant characters why not go with Killer Croc or the Mad Hatter?

C'mon guys there are a lot to choose from.

 

[Laderlappen]

Catwoman isnt supposed to be a threat. She's a love interest, not a villian.

 

[TLGunfighter]

Than that's more of a reason not to introduce her. In fact why even bother listing her in the likely villains thread? That would make it even less likely for her to appear. I'm not sure about you guys but I don't wanna watch Batman fall in love in the last movie. We all saw what unnecessary romance can do to a potentially good movie in Attack of the Clones.

 

[Crazy Flakes]

Black Mask. Or at least, I hope it's Black Mask. Nolan could make him so badass, and because Black Mask is one of the few villains who has something specifically against Bruce Wayne rather than Batman, I'd like to see how it plays out.
Well, him or Zsasz. That is, unless Chris thinks that they're too creepy for his series, since they're a couple of the creepiest characters in the Batman universe...but they're also the most realistic. ;] Still, they would have to tone down Zsasz, because the three-year-olds that were in my theater when I saw The Dark Knight would have nightmares for months with the whole 'tallying off his victims on his skin' thing...

 

[Finlandman]

You clearly have something against Catwoman. And how does her being a love interest make her appereance unlikely? It's obvious that blockbuster is going to have a strong female character. And I'd hardly call Catwoman irrelevant. She's one of the most well known aspects of Batman mythos.

BTW, IMO they should give us characters like Penquin, Riddler and Catwoman instead of the likes of Hugo Strange or Black Mask. "But those have been in a movie before", some say. It's true that one version of those characters have been in a movie before. Why not then give us an another version?

 

[Laderlappen]

Than that's more of a reason not to introduce her. In fact why even bother listing her in the likely villains thread? That would make it even less likely for her to appear. I'm not sure about you guys but I don't wanna watch Batman fall in love in the last movie. We all saw what unnecessary romance can do to a potentially good movie in Attack of the Clones.

Like 90% movies have romantic storylines in them. Not just the bad ones.

 

[TLGunfighter]

You clearly have something against Catwoman. And how does her being a love interest make her appereance unlikely? It's obvious that blockbuster is going to have a strong female character. And I'd hardly call Catwoman irrelevant. She's one of the most well known aspects of Batman mythos.

BTW, IMO they should give us characters like Penquin, Riddler and Catwoman instead of the likes of Hugo Strange or Black Mask. "But those have been in a movie before", some say. It's true that one version of those characters have been in a movie before. Why not then give us an another version?

Sure, Catwoman may have been relevant in maybe the first and second films and maybe even interesting as a love interest. But its too far down the line this last needs to be a wrap up, how could you fit in Catwoman as a love interest without wrecking the storyline? Romance takes time to build up, a romantic interest would steal focus away from the storyline and give time to building up a love life for no particular reason, Nolans more than likely not going to do a fourth, so why have Bruce/Batman fall in love.I used irrelevant loosely to basically say that Catwoman would be irrelevant to the movie storyline and trying to cram her in would not do her significance as you said in the Batman mythos justice, If you say Catwoman, I ask you for a plausible idea for implementing Catwoman. I've yet to be convinced as to why we NEED Catwoman in the next film but perhaps maybe you could be the one persuade me?


Oh btw, I have nothing against Catwoman, I just think she'd be a ridiculous villain choice for the new Batman.

Like 90% movies have romantic storylines in them. Not just the bad ones.

Hence why I listed it as UNNECESSARY romance. Catwoman would be an unnecessary romance. We just had Rachel as the love interest and Alfred destroying the note so Bruce can't find out the truth about her marrying Harvey he reminded Bruce that she believed in what he was doing and he must continue doing it. This builds the internal struggle in Batman, why Batman needs to continue to be Batman, and be Batman ALONE. Just like in Dark Victory [the comic that followed Long Halloween] Batman feels that he cannot enlist help to fight the new evil in Gotham, following what happened to Harvey, he realized that he must do it alone.

All I'm really saying is that there is no room to fit in the Catwoman in the third movie.

 

[Laderlappen]

It doesnt need to be an "unnecassary" romance. We have no idea what way Nolan would go with the story. It could easily fit in.

 

[ERVysther]

I think a lot of it depends on who helms the film, to be honest...if Nolan does indeed do the sequel, I think it's anyone's guess at this point...as we all know, Nolan does not like to be pressured or use big name actors for his craft.

Heath Ledger's passing most definitely will put a gloomy pall over any future films the current configuration is involved with - as the majority of us know, Ledger's Joker was scheduled for the third film and his death will cast a shadow over the cast and crew.

(This also makes me wonder if Nolan will return at all - these kind of things affect people in very different ways, and sometimes people just walk away.)

If Nolan bails and the studio has it's way, I think Caine's recent quote will be the order of the day.

This does not mean I think Nolan would refuse to do a film featuring Penguin and Riddler - I just find it highly unlikely given some of his past remarks on the characters.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

I'd like too see Catwoman,
I'd love to see the Riddler, but my fear is that he might, let me say this again, might be too similar too the joker, just because of the dark tones of these movies, and lets face it, the sequel too the dark knight has very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very high expectations, and we're all expecting it too be better that tdk, which at the moment, almost seems impossible. But i trust nolan and the whole crew.
I just hope the penguin isn't part of the next one, he just seems boring to me, compared too all the villians in the batman universe.

 

[strider]

Black Mask - mob element
Talia Al Ghul - main villian
Bane or Deadshot - secondary

 

[Darkknight14]

Black Mask - mob element
Talia Al Ghul - main villian
Bane or Deadshot - secondary

Bane can't be seconary! Remember Batman and Robin? Because I'd really like to forget it. Talia isn't strong enough a character to be a main villain, as she'd be the more flirty Catwoman type. Black Mask as the mob element isn't a bad idea. Maybe the Bank Manager can be Black Mask. Remember Joker said "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you...stranger". Well Joker didn't kill him. It was a smoke grenade. So maybe he is stranger now. who knows?

 

[Brian Braddock]

Basically, we can count out any villain that has super-powers, mutations, powers derived from magic, etc

So I'm guessing we'll see Kite-Man.

Nah, seriously, I would love to see Deadshot.

 

[BlueGhost]

Most Likely= The Riddler. But who knows, Nolan might shock us all and not even use him.

However, I think Deadshot has a good chance. Going by the end of The Dark Knight, being hunted might be a major theme in B3(if not the theme), so why not go with the "never miss" assassin, Deadshot?

The Riddler will be testing him psychologically, and Deadshot will be testing him physically.

And I'd imagine that Nolan will continue with the Mob playing a part in the story, so Rupert Thorne might get a chance to shine.