The Dark Knight Rises Which villians are MOST LIKELY to appear?

[CaptainClown]

There is no way Nolan is going to put an Alice in wonderland character in his franchise.

um he didn't get the memo did he?

 

[Changeling]

Hmm...I'm not thinking he did.

 

[thundercatsho]

I really want Mad Hatter now, it would be good psychologically because Batman would want to keep a child's innocence and trying to avoid having Gotham's children in trauma like he did. Mad Hatter could also have a connection with Catwoman if they put Holly in, he could kidnap her or something.

 

[CaptainClown]

I would want a Hatter cameo, not a Hatter story.

 

[thundercatsho]

I would want a Hatter cameo, not a Hatter story.

That won't be appealing.

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't see why not. Hatter is a pretty 2d villain, much like Scarecrow and a whole story about him would just be kind of meh.

 

[thundercatsho]

I don't see why not. Hatter is a pretty 2d villain, much like Scarecrow and a whole story about him would just be kind of meh.

Bane is a 2D villain, Riddler too. Black Mask is basically Two-Face with more money and a different name.

 

[The Major]

Bane is a 2D villain,

Bane can be very interesting given the proper execution. Read the Veritas Liberat story line in the comics. He was great in the two-part Hourman arc in JSA: Classified, as well.

His origin is a very tragic one. He manages to overcomes great odds starting from less then nothing into the man who broke Batman.

Riddler too.

Riddler has his moments. He has much more potential then has been shown, IMO. Dini has done execellent work in exploring him as a reformed villain turned private investigator. Busiek has also touched on this in Trinity.

Black Mask is basically Two-Face with more money and a different name.

Haven't seen enough of Black Mask to have an opinion one way or another.

 

[dontplaydead27]

My thoughts on who they could be;

I also believe Talia Al Ghul could pop up very likely, one reason being there would be another female role. It could be her or Catwoman. And the fact that it would link back to the first movie with Ra's. Most trilogies go back to explore the original movie in some aspect in order to "tie in" the series.

I can see Bane being done, in a truer-to-the-comic way and not a "Batman & Robin" way. Not sure if it would make for a proper closing of the trilogy though, just depends. I would like to see a good Bane on screen, and I agree about Rourke. If done right, and with Nolan that's likely, it would be a great character to have to rival Batman.

Riddler...eh. I don't think it's likely. People say it could be seen as a knockoff of Joker, UNLESS that's what Nolan would go for, someone inspired by Joker. Could be a possible take on the character, but I wouldn't want to see him onscreen. I've always thought of him as boring.

There's alot of BS about the Penguin, even though I thought Nolan said a long time ago he wouldn't ever do Penguin. Obviously if he did write him, it would be the business mogul from the comics but I don't see that happening either. I guess if Nolan even comes back, it's possible.

I think Catwoman is highly likely. I think she would serve perfect as the female love interest/intrique that Batman would question after the death of the last girl he loved. I would love to see Nolan do this character, and with a brunette cast for her.

I'd like to see Two-face, but apparently it's been confirmed he wasn't meant to return. People say he served his purpose anyway and there's not much more you could do, but I don't believe that. He could try to take out the mob/criminals himself, while messing with Batman and Gordon, toying with them. Truth is there is alot of purpose he could serve, you just have to think about it. I really wanted to see him again, if even for a "Scarecrow" type cameo in Arkham or something. I believe Nolan left the ending of TDK open to interpretation for a reason, so I don't believe the character's dead until they confirm it in the next movie. He's such a big popular villian, it's hard to believe we got all we're going to get of him.

Of course there's also the little-known villians, but I think Nolan would stick with the quasi-popular villians in the final installment. I don't see him making up any original villians either.

 

[Boom]

It's tricky. How do you evolve from a villain who was all about complete anarchy?

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Hatter and Scarecrow are not 2D villains. Both are very complex characters, and two of the best in Batman's Rogues Gallery. In the comics Batman has admitted that Scarecrow is one of his most formidable foes. Hatter goes after kids...that's pretty damn menacing. Same goes for Black mask. He's nothing like Two Face, as a matter of fact the only common ground they share is that their faces were burnt, albeit in a different matter. any of these three villains can give Bats a run for his money on even his best day...so don't give me that 2D crap.

 

[dontplaydead27]

"Catwoman wouldn't fit into Nolan's series. You couldn't just throw her into the film like they did with the Joker in TDK. People are going to wonder why is this ***** dressed like a cat? It seems with Nolan's series that the villians don't have an origin, excluding Two-Face whose more like a vigilante. Also having a woman dressed as a cat and a man dressed as a bat is pushing the realism in Nolan's series."

Not to single anyone out but I saw this and alot of people probably feel this way. I say why couldn't she be inspired by Batman to dress up and be a thief? In BB, it tells us criminals are changing BECAUSE of Batman. It could be explored that Batman has changed things, which seems to be the underlying theme for the whole series.

You wouldn't need that much backstory for Catwoman. I think they could focus on a bittersweet relationship between Batman and Catwoman like they have for years in the comics. If anyone would work well in this "universe", it's Catwoman. I think it would be a good theme to explore to close the series (until WB ****s it up somehow). Now mind you, this doesn't mean i'd think she would be a good MAIN character, or the only character the movie would need to stand on.

Rich girl starts showing up at Bruce Wayne's parties, robberies going on all around. She's attracted to Bruce and he wonders who the hell she is. Bam, there's a quick "how to" on putting her in there. And you could still have a main villain to tie in.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

That would be the only way Catwoman would work in this series. So if they do decide to put her in, I hope it's something to that extent dontplaydead.

 

[I Am The Knight]

It's tricky. How do you evolve from a villain who was all about complete anarchy?

To one that is all about cal-coo-la-tion.

Yes, that means Lau.

Or you could always use The Riddler...

 

[Lemenbolle]

The Batman is most likely to appear. He is wanted. oooOOOooOOOOoo

 

[Rockadood]

I think the Joker opened the door to a whole new type of villain. The mob is broken, the loonies have escaped Arkham (in Begins). There's a criminal void which needs filling. Potential criminals might have seen the way Joker had power ove Gotham and want some for themselves.

As for the realism aspect, I really think it has more to do with the mood of the films and playing it "straight" The recent films have both included imposible technology, although rooted in reality to great effect (memory fabric, microwave transmitter, batpod, sonar phones & eye-sreens)

I see no reason why Nolan couldn't push the envelope slightly to encorporate more outlandish villains, though they would need to be a real threat to top the Joker.

I think Freeze could work, but only if played totally straight and treated as a genuine threat. After all, he wants to kill every living thing by freezing.

The Riddler could also be a huge mental rather than physical threat to Batman and Bruce Wayne, which could be very interesting to watch unfold.

I have to say, that what Nolan has done with the citizens of Gotham will help almost any villain work. The citizens used to be little more than B-movie extras in forties clothes. Now they are real people, whose reactions to the threats help us to suspend our disbelief.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

One word: ANARKY.

 

[The Batkilt]

I don't see why not. Hatter is a pretty 2d villain, much like Scarecrow and a whole story about him would just be kind of meh.

I don't think he'd even have to be a villain as such. I know my idea is poor to average at best, but I have thought of one possible way to treat Hatter.

I thought of Jervis Tetch would be a scientist working on a microchip that ultimately would be used to stop the sexual urges/desires of pedophiles. During his research he becomes desensitized to some of the images he sees. (Which a lot of psychologists believe is the cast with almost all pornography, and there have been a few reported cases here in the UK of police that work in specialised units dealing with child pornography ending up being caught looking at it as time goes on.) He seeks help from Dr. Jonathan Crane, who instead experiments on him and tapping into his fear of becoming a pedophile.

As a result of these experiments Tetch's mind regresses to his childhood favourite of Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and he begins to really believe Gotham City is Wonderland, and searches out for his Alice.

As I said it's not a great idea by any stretch but I was trying to combine some of the modern aspects of the character with some of the more traditional.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

I really like that idea for Mr. Tetch.

 

[Adam West]

I see it working like this.

Joker is in Arkham and not thrilled that his plan to break the citizens of Gotham failed because Batman took the fall for Dent. Much as Batman inspired the bat-copycats in TDK, Joker has inspired some of the lunatics in Arkham to become 'theme' villains. Notably, Riddler, and Harley Quinn. Joker instructs Harley to continue his campaign of Chaos, while he confides in Riddler the truth about Dent.

So now we have Riddler, sending Riddles to Gordon implying he knows the truth about Dent and Batman, and we have Harley continuing Jokers role from TDK. Riddler abducts people and placing them in death trap scenarioes distracting Batman while Harley brings chaos to Gotham.

I also think it would cool to have cameos from other villains. That the mob has turned to freak villains to lead them now that they think Batman will kill them. Penguin, Black Mask, Ventriloquist and Mad Hatter would all work in this context.

By using Harley, they wouldn't have to re-cast Joker, but could continue his storyline in a way (Joker in Arkham could use un-used footage and dialouge of Heath from TDK)

 

[Majik1387]

I really hate the death trap idea for Riddler. He is not Jigsaw

 

[Rockadood]

I'm not sure about Harley Quinn, only because she was written for the animated series. Nolan seems to be taking his cues from much earlier source material.

She's a good character with an interesting back-story, but I don't think it's likely she'll appear.

Edit: What do I get for 100 posts?

 

[Laderlappen]

"Catwoman wouldn't fit into Nolan's series. You couldn't just throw her into the film like they did with the Joker in TDK. People are going to wonder why is this ***** dressed like a cat? It seems with Nolan's series that the villians don't have an origin, excluding Two-Face whose more like a vigilante. Also having a woman dressed as a cat and a man dressed as a bat is pushing the realism in Nolan's series."

How is dressing up in a costume unrealistic?

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

I really hate the death trap idea for Riddler. He is not Jigsaw

The Death trap thing may not hold water, but they definitely need to do something to spice up The Riddler if they plan on using him. Even Batman calls him Predictable, and overall boring. Just because he's a recognized name in the Batman universe, doesn't mean he would be a good villain for Nolan's Batman series.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Edit: What do I get for 100 posts?

A sig, I think? Apart from that, nothing. Maybe a hug.