The Dark Knight Rises Which villians are MOST LIKELY to appear?

[TheGlassPrison]

5) Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze, Clayface
great potential as villains but lack a sense of uberrealism that Nolan seems interested in. Odds of these are very low which is really unfortunate

I'm glad someone mentioned Mr. Freeze because I think that character would have great potential.

Hear me out, most people think Mr. Freeze is way too far fetched of a villian to appear in Nolan's realistic universe. But wasn't that the entire premise of Nolan's Batman series? To take these really fantastic characters and ground them; to make them believable and realistic. That's what makes them interesting to see.

Alot of people think the Riddler has the best shot because he fits sooo perfectly into Nolan's universe. Hey, Johnny Depp's a weird, eccentric guy- what a perfect, predictable choice. And hey, they could play him like the Zodiac or the movie Se7en! And it would all be incredibly... pointless. What's the point or entertainment value of taking an already realistic character, and grounding him? The fact that everyone can already easily imagine the Riddler proves that he wouldn't be that interesting to see on film. Why go see something that is already so easily imagined?

I think the key word for Nolan is to be unconventional.

If he and his team want to have any shot at topping TDK, they're going to have to choose characters that will be very interesting to see; that people will be curious to see. Mr. Freeze has the potential to greatly fulfill that.

Not to mention the cinematic quality Mr. Freeze would bring to film, ya know? A Riddle doesn't work any better on an IMAX screen than it does on written on paper.

 

[Melkay]

Is Selina Kyle the only other female character in Batman's..............history..?

Nope. But the best.

 

[The Major]

Is Selina Kyle the only other female character in Batman's..............history..?

No. Just the most well known.

 

[[A]]

No. Just the most well known.

All I'm saying is.. I don't know what I'm saying

 

[Melkay]

I'm glad someone mentioned Mr. Freeze because I think that character would have great potential.

Hear me out, most people think Mr. Freeze is way too far fetched of a villian to appear in Nolan's realistic universe. But wasn't that the entire premise of Nolan's Batman series? To take these really fantastic characters and ground them; to make them believable and realistic. That's what makes them interesting to see.

Alot of people think the Riddler has the best shot because he fits sooo perfectly into Nolan's universe. Hey, Johnny Depp's a weird, eccentric guy- what a perfect, predictable choice. And hey, they could play him like the Zodiac or the movie Se7en! And it would all be incredibly... pointless.

Hahahahaha... bravo! Can I be your friend?

What's the point or entertainment value of taking an already realistic character, and grounding him? The fact that everyone can already easily imagine the Riddler proves that he wouldn't be that interesting to see on film. Why go see something that is already so easily imagined?

I think the key word for Nolan is to be unconventional.

If he and his team want to have any shot at topping TDK, they're going to have to choose characters that will be very interesting to see; that people will be curious to see. Mr. Freeze has the potential to greatly fulfill that.

Not to mention the cinematic quality Mr. Freeze would bring to film, ya know? A Riddle doesn't work any better on an IMAX screen than it does on written on paper.

Bravo, bravo, bravo. Please, click the link in my signature: There you will find three posts: one for the Riddler, one for Catwoman and one for Freeze. I would love to hear your opinion on the Freeze one. Thank you, take care.

 

[The Major]

I'm glad someone mentioned Mr. Freeze because I think that character would have great potential.

Hear me out, most people think Mr. Freeze is way too far fetched of a villian to appear in Nolan's realistic universe. But wasn't that the entire premise of Nolan's Batman series? To take these really fantastic characters and ground them; to make them believable and realistic. That's what makes them interesting to see.

Alot of people think the Riddler has the best shot because he fits sooo perfectly into Nolan's universe. Hey, Johnny Depp's a weird, eccentric guy- what a perfect, predictable choice. And hey, they could play him like the Zodiac or the movie Se7en! And it would all be incredibly... pointless. What's the point or entertainment value of taking an already realistic character, and grounding him? The fact that everyone can already easily imagine the Riddler proves that he wouldn't be that interesting to see on film. Why go see something that is already so easily imagined?

That's only one direction they could go in with Riddler. It is the most obvious and as you said boring. It would merely be an extreme Joker IMO.

But they can do more creative stuff with Riddler then that.

Have him be an over zealous FBI agent, snobbish detective at Gotham PD or well intentioned private investigator who hunts Batman who uses the Riddler persona to capture Batman, for instance.

Another direction could be a hacker in the mold of Thomas Gabriel who wants to hoard all the secrets of the world for himself, including Batman's secret identity.

They can update his armed and unarmed combat skills, as well.

I think the key word for Nolan is to be unconventional.

If he and his team want to have any shot at topping TDK, they're going to have to choose characters that will be very interesting to see; that people will be curious to see. Mr. Freeze has the potential to greatly fulfill that.

Not to mention the cinematic quality Mr. Freeze would bring to film, ya know? A Riddle doesn't work any better on an IMAX screen than it does on written on paper.

Agreed.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

I've gotta throw my straw hat in again...and say Anarky, and Scarecrow. Nolan has already proven he has a thing for ole Scarecrow...So I expect to see more of him in the next movie. Anarky, simply because of what The Joker stood for, and being that Joker was young Anarky's hero. Anarky would simply be stepping up the process that The Joker started. Black Mask could play a small-ish part as the freak taking over the mob. In the end Anarky and Batman would have to settle their differences and work together to stop Black Mask and Scarecrow who have by now started a business relationship. I think it's an interesting concept. t:

 

[Melkay]

All I'm saying is.. I don't know what I'm saying

Hmm, sincere.

 

[Melkay]

Excuse me.... anar-what?

Well-established Batman villains, please. We're talking about the last movie of a possible trilogy. And the sequel to the highest-grossing movie of all time.

No rookies allowed. Just veterans.

 

[CaptainClown]

anarky=watered down V

 

[[A]]

No rookies allowed. Just veterans.

anarky=watered down V

Yeah, my post with all these unknowns was a joke but I want a big name too.. Anarky? Please..

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Anarky is a very realistic character, and has a very devoted following, just because he's not the freakin Joker doesn't mean he doesn't have a chance in being in it. He's alot better than V any day, by the way. IMO. We're talking realistic, and as I said, after Mister J's reign of terror, Anarky is a very likely choice. But I know you guys would rather see somebody like Penguin

 

[CaptainClown]

well I am talking about scarecrowman who wants Anarky

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Uh what's your point?

 

[CaptainClown]

Im talking to Aeghast who feels that I was talking about his suggestions.

I don't want another "anarchy" character taking on the role of terrorizing the city. We basically got that for two films and I just want something different. Also Anarky might have a following but he is hardly popular enough to be higher then a cameo.

 

[[A]]

Im talking to Aeghast who feels that I was talking about his suggestions

No I don't feel that. At all Really, just was making my point.. if any

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Tell ya the truth, at this point I wouldn't mind a cameo. I'm not saying he has to be the main villain per se, I was just throwing that in there as a thought. It would be interesting to see him on the big screen,even if it was a cameo, you have to admit.

 

[The Major]

Im talking to Aeghast who feels that I was talking about his suggestions.

I don't want another "anarchy" character taking on the role of terrorizing the city.

Agreed.

We basically got that for two films and I just want something different.

Which you can get from many less known villains not just the big names.

Also Anarky might have a following but he is hardly popular enough to be higher then a cameo.

I agree he should only be a cameo but only since he's to similar to the Joker and isn't a main villain type not because he isn't that popular with the audience.

 

[The Major]

Excuse me.... anar-what?

Well-established Batman villains, please. We're talking about the last movie of a possible trilogy.

I disagree with you. Nolan has proven he can make villains the public don't know much about and making them work very well.

It's getting old seeing just the most popular villains in the films. They're not the only characters with potential IMO.

And the sequel to the highest-grossing movie of all time.

So what?

No rookies allowed. Just veterans.

Rookies don't become veterans unless they get their time in the spotlight.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Thank you Major, once again you prove why you are one of the most wise....t:

 

[Melkay]

I disagree with you. Nolan has proven he can make villains the public don't know much about and making them work very well.

It's getting old seeing just the most popular villains in the films. They're not the only characters with potential IMO.

Who?
Ra's Al Ghul?
The SCARECROW?
TWO-FACE?
THE FREAKING JOKER????

Please name one. Zsas doesn't count because... well, he was just a cameo, and actuall just a psycho guy with a knife.

So what?

Oh, well... really... I don't really know... I thought I knew... what was it?

Oh, right.... maybe because.... THE STAKES ARE HIGH. Because IT'S IMPORTANT.

When a movie gets this big it doesn't belong only to the hardcore fans but to wider audiences as well. And just out of hierarchy, one doesn't prioritize decent bu unknown villains in front of well-known and EXCELLENT villains.

Rookies don't become veterans unless they get their time in the spotlight.

And that's what the comics are for. Ra's Al Ghul has only been there since the seventies and he already earned a spot. Black Mask since the eighties and nobody is arguing against him.

Anarky...?

No more questions, your honour.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

No one seems to be terribly against Bane being in it, and Bane has actually been around alot less longer than Anarky.Learn more about the character, he's been around since the 80s. So don't give me the more established villain crap. Come up with a good argument.

 

[The Major]

Who?
Ra's Al Ghul?
The SCARECROW?
TWO-FACE?
THE FREAKING JOKER????

Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul. The public barely knew anything about them until Batman Begins.

Please name one. Zsas doesn't count because... well, he was just a cameo, and actuall just a psycho guy with a knife.

Which would be fine for Anarchy.

Zsasz is actualy a villain lower then Anarky's level since he has less time in the comics and you're not against him appearing in film. He not as interesting as Anarky, either.

Oh, well... really... I don't really know... I thought I knew... what was it?

Oh, right.... maybe because.... THE STAKES ARE HIGH. Because IT'S IMPORTANT.

The stakes are always high.

TDK would really allow them to get away with more since the majority of the people who saw TDK will show to see the sequel even if they put Kite Man in it. All they need is a good version executed well in a good movie with a great actor.

When a movie gets this big it doesn't belong only to the hardcore fans but to wider audiences as well.

The public get excited about new villains they don't know or know very little about in other movies every year.

And just out of hierarchy, one doesn't prioritize decent bu unknown villains in front of well-known and EXCELLENT villains.

The high profile Batman villains aren't the only excellent ones.

They're just more well known. They all had to start somewhere. Joker wasn't always an A-list villain. Ra's stock raised considerably from Batman Begins and Batman:TAS. The same thing will occur to any other lesser known villain in the films.

And that's what the comics are for.

The comics don't mean **** to the public. Villains earn their spot in mainstream appearances in high profile mediums like tv shows and movies.

Ra's Al Ghul has only been there since the seventies and he already earned a spot.

Ra's had many appearances in Batman:TAS. Many villains both well knwon and lesser known have in that show, some even showed up in JLU and The Batman cartoon.

The only reason he earned a spot is because Nolan wanted him to be in the film.

Black Mask since the eighties and nobody is arguing against him.

Black Mask has had even less appearances in the media then Ra's did and Nolan still considered him having enough potential to be in TDK in early drafts.

Anarky...?

No more questions, you honour.

His modus operandi would make sense in Nolan's universe and show logical consequences to the Joker's actions in TDK.

Anarchy's been around years longer then Bane who has gotten a movie appearance.

 

[Melkay]

No one seems to be terribly against Bane being in it, and Bane has actually been around alot less longer than Anarky.Learn more about the character, he's been around since the 80s. So don't give me the more established villain crap. Come up with a good argument.

Did you read my las post? I'm in favor of big characters who star in famous and trascedental storylines in the comics. I'm for Black Mask and I was for Ra's. And for Bane.

But Anarky has not had any "Knightfall"

I will have to keep giving you some more 'established villain' crap. Sorry.

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Did you really just say that? You must have not read Knightfall, because if you did you would realize that Anarky actually played a fairly large role in it. ALSO...you apparently didn't read The Major's last post either. So...anything else?