Who is the "main" villain?

[Catman]

And even if Harry gets a similar amount of screentime, he fights with Spidey at the end so you couldn't really call him the main villain of the film.

I asked that earlier. I said that if Harry isn't the main villain then what could he be? Because I don't see him being a secondary character to Sandman. I mean, whats the point of building Harry's revenge in the course of three films to have it be less focused than the whole Sandman thing?

I don't know. It seems kinda odd to me.

 

[Catman]

Also, what if the police made a mistake and Sandman wasn't Uncle Ben's killer? Will he still be the main villain or just a simple bank robber with super powers who had the misforunate of being accused of murder?

If thats the case then wouldn't the symbiote be the main villain?

 

[lordofthenerds]

I asked that earlier. I said that if Harry isn't the main villain then what could he be? Because I don't see him being a secondary character to Sandman. I mean, whats the point of building Harry's revenge in the course of three films to have it be less focused than the whole Sandman thing?

I don't know. It seems kinda odd to me.

So that he can finally forgive Peter. And that's pretty much the theme of this movie...

 

[Catman]

So that he can finally forgive Peter. And that's pretty much the theme of this movie...

We all know he'll forgive Peter, but I understand that it won't be till the end of the film. Its like how Doc Ock at the end of Spidey 2 finally realized he was wrong!

I don't know! I just find it weird that in a movie that features Harry, Sandman, and Venom it is Sandman who ends up being the main bad guy.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Also, what if the police made a mistake and Sandman wasn't Uncle Ben's killer? Will he still be the main villain or just a simple bank robber with super powers who had the misforunate of being accused of murder?

If thats the case then wouldn't the symbiote be the main villain?

I can see we're getting into the "what if?" game now...

 

[Road Warrior]

I just find it weird that in a movie that features Harry, Sandman, and Venom it is Sandman who ends up being the main bad guy.

Bingo! That's the reason I created this thread. Can you imagine if they made a Batman movie that featured The Joker, Two-Face, and Penguin and the filmmakers told everyone that The Penguin was the main bad guy?

My theory is that the symbiote is the main villain. They say Sandman is the main villain, but I think it's the symbiote.

 

[Rated-X]

Those are good points Catman

 

[ledfloyd92]

Gotta go with Catman on this. It just doesn't make sense for Harry not to be the main villian. Although I doubt he'll get as much screentime as Sandman, and we already know the Venom is only in the third act.

 

[Road Warrior]

Those are good points Catman

Catman made good points, but his conclusion of Harry is what killed his theory. From the beginning I've always thought that the symbiote was the main villain. When it was announced that Sandman was Uncle Ben's true killer I was thrown off. Yet, as I think about it more I think symbiote is indeed the main villain in the story.

Why? Well, let's start with Sandman. Capt. Stacy informed Peter and Aunt May that Flint Marko is the real killer. Yet, what proof does he have? Does he have evidence that will hold up in a court of law? Did Marko confess to the crime? We don't know. As a result there is still the chance that towards the end of the film it will be revealed that there was a mistake and Flint didn't actually kill Uncle Ben. Now, let's look at Harry. He can't be considered a villain per say. He's just a misguided young man. The same can be said about Eddie Brock. So, that leaves us with the symbiote. The symbiote turns Peter Parker into a bad guy. Then, it bonds with Eddie and becomes Venom!

Your thoughts?

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I said sandman but it rly depends what part of the film your at.

 

[Catman]

Catman made good points, but his conclusion of Harry is what killed his theory. From the beginning I've always thought that the symbiote was the main villain. When it was announced that Sandman was Uncle Ben's true killer I was thrown off. Yet, as I think about it more I think symbiote is indeed the main villain in the story.

Why? Well, let's start with Sandman. Capt. Stacy informed Peter and Aunt May that Flint Marko is the real killer. Yet, what proof does he have? Does he have evidence that will hold up in a court of law? Did Marko confess to the crime? We don't know. As a result there is still the chance that towards the end of the film it will be revealed that there was a mistake and Flint didn't actually kill Uncle Ben. Now, let's look at Harry. He can't be considered a villain per say. He's just a misguided young man. The same can be said about Eddie Brock. So, that leaves us with the symbiote. The symbiote turns Peter Parker into a bad guy. Then, it bonds with Eddie and becomes Venom!

Your thoughts?

I stand corrected.

 

[The Joker]

To begin with, we're not 100% sure how that Uncle Ben thing will work out. Is Flint Marko proven as the murderer or is he an alleged murderer? There's a difference.

There's no difference, because whether it is actually true or not, the Police and Peter think Marko is the real killer. And Peter goes on a vendetta to track down Marko.

He is the driving force for Peter's anger.

Secondly, I don't see symbiote Spider-Man having endless battles with Sandman. I see symbiote Spider-Man defeating Sandman is one fight! Maybe regular Spidey and Sandman will have a couple of fights, but I think symbiote Spidey will defeat Sandman in one fight. He's THAT pissed off.

Hence why you see regular Spidey fighting him in an armoured car, and then one in a subway tunnel, which looks like it ends with symbiote Spidey trying to destroy Sandman by drowning him.

Also, lets go back to the trailer. We see symbiote Peter throwing the pumpkin at Harry. Now...who does symbiote Peter attack first? Sandman or Harry?

What difference does that make??

And, does Peter find out about Flint being the killer before or after getting the symbiote?

Before, because his hair was not jet black and emo in the police station scene with Captain Stacy and Aunt May.

You see where I'm getting at?

I'm afraid I don't.

Eddie Brock will not be treated as a little side character. Raimi admitted that the reason Eddie/Venom is in the movie is because he knew that he's a fan favorite.

No, Raimi said the reason he's in it is because Avi Arad talked him around.

So, Raimi is not gonna treat Eddie/Venom as a piece of crap.

I never said he was. I said Brock is a side character, not a main character. It's blatantly obvious the Peter/Symbiote/Sandman thing is the driving force of the movie. With it having reprecussions on his relationship with MJ and Harry.

Even if the character has little screentime I'm sure every minute the character is on screen will be the most memorable. I mean...look at Silence of the Lamb. Believe it or not, but Hannibal is on screen for like a total of 15 minutes yet he's the one we all remember!

I'm not doubting he'll be memorable. That's not what's in dispute here. Who is the main villain is what we're debating here. And it's not Venom.

 

[Rated-X]

Road Warrior, like everybody else, I believe Sandman is the main villain, but Catman did make some good points and so are you; but that only if you believe the Symbiot is a villain. I don't. I see the Symbiot as a alien parasite. Bonding and taking over it's host is what it does. Would you call a Mountain Lion or a Allegator a villain because it attacks a rabbit or a Golfer. NO! Because it is what it is. That's how I feel about the Symbiot. It is what it is. If not Peter or Eddie, it would be someone else.

 

[Catman]

I see the Symbiot as a alien parasite. Bonding and taking over it's host is what it does. Would you call a Mountain Lion or a Allegator a villain because it attacks a rabbit or a Golfer. NO! Because it is what it is. That's how I feel about the Symbiot. It is what it is. If not Peter or Eddie, it would be someone else.

I don't know what to think anymore.

 

[Road Warrior]

Road Warrior, like everybody else, I believe Sandman is the main villain, but Catman did make some good points and so are you; but that only if you believe the Symbiot is a villain. I don't. I see the Symbiot as a alien parasite. Bonding and taking over it's host is what it does. Would you call a Mountain Lion or a Allegator a villain because it attacks a rabbit or a Golfer. NO! Because it is what it is. That's how I feel about the Symbiot. It is what it is. If not Peter or Eddie, it would be someone else.

Let's say Sandman is in fact the main villain. If that's the case then it's a little disappointing. Please, don't misunderstand me! I have complete faith in Raimi and I believe Spider-Man 3 will be great.

I loved Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2. Now, if you were to ask me which was my favorite I would say the first film. Mostly because I was disappointed by Doc Ock in the second film. I felt Ock basically took the role of the Lizard. And, you guys know what I mean by that.

I think the third installment will rock, but if anything will disappoint me it will be that Sandman is the main villain in a movie that also features Harry as the Goblin and Venom.

 

[Rated-X]

How can you say that? You don't know how events are going to play out. You are jumping to conclusions without warrant.

 

[Road Warrior]

How can you say that? You don't know how events are going to play out. You are jumping to conclusions without warrant.

Perhaps you're right, Rated X! In May we'll know for sure.

 

[superkong 500]

We all know that sandman will be the main villain. He will even team-up with venom,this is totally against venom's nature but since sandman is raimis favorite...

 

[Road Warrior]

A team-up in the classic Batman style!

 

[Eternalzero]

Literally and obviously speaking, it is Sandman.

Existentially, it is the symbiote, because as well all know, Spider-man/Peter Parker is not a nice guy in this movie and all of the drama and conflict in this movie is a direct result of it.

 

[Parquagh]

This is how I see it:

Main Villain
first half of the movie --- Sandman
second half of the movie -- Venom

 

[Arcturus]

Don't forget Harry.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yep, both the Q&a and the script summary both clearly say that, plus we saw sand all over the place at the construction site during the trailer. From the trailers alone, you can tell that Sandman will get the most screen time of the 3 villains. And even if Harry gets a similar amount of screentime, he fights with Spidey at the end so you couldn't really call him the main villain of the film.

yeah, spidey has the most battles with sandman in this movie which is three battles. he has two battles with harry and one very HUGE battle with venom. i guess sams intentions were to make sandman the main villian. which was good idea.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

So that he can finally forgive Peter. And that's pretty much the theme of this movie...

yup, revenge and forgivness.

 

[Road Warrior]

one very HUGE battle with venom.

I hope Raimi doesn't disappoint! Venom should have had his own movie, but if he's going to be squeezed then every scene better be amazing!