I'd like one of these villains too, but would also be wanting to see Doc Ock return as the main villain at some point. He's just too good. The success of Spider-Man 2 is amplified by his presence. I like Green Goblin, but I'd consider Ock Spidey's true nemesis. And Superior Spider-Man is such an awesome arc.
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I'd welcome him over Venom![]()
*crosses fingers that the Venom debate doesn't derail the thread for the 50th time*
Haha funny tweet from watts it would be a cool opening sequence or a montage scene of spidey taking out big wheel lol.
As for lead villain I still def Want mysterio for first the most. I also fine with vulture too. Sequel I feel better doing a kraven/chameleon combo, or a scorpion film.
I too agree if/when we see symbiote and venom it should be set up over time. Like say peter get symbiote in infinity wars. It doesn't start to take over their. Then we come back for sequel and peter has black suit for whole film. Then at end we find out what it is and he gets rid of it. While also in this film and hopefully in first too lay seeds for brock. Then we come back for next film and go full on venom.
You need at least a movie of Spidey wearing the symbiote and showing Brock's animosity before doing a movie with Venom.
I fully agree, but let's not assume that MS will automatically do the original Eddie story. Marvel seems to have a high opinion of the mediocre Agent Venom, which might be an easier story for a high school backdrop, ala the Ultimate Spidey 'toon.
As I said earlier, I'm not getting my hopes up for specific story adaptations since Spidey's world is being poured into a pre-existing, larger steam of continuity.
You need at least a movie of Spidey wearing the symbiote and showing Brock's animosity before doing a movie with Venom.
Otherwise you don't have any depth to the character or have to cram him into the last 10 minutes to fit the runtime. Spider-Man 3 could've worked if they had just set up the Venom arc in Spider-Man 2. First movie is about Peter as Spider-Man. This would also introduce Brock. Then, in Infinity War, he finds the costume and uses it. Second movie, he ditches the costume, and we get Venom.
I'm not a Venom fan at all and I'd prefer they just keep the symbiotes out of these new movies completely
IMO, the classic villains are better in terms of motives, characterizations, and stories. I'd like to see Ock revisited at some point (especially if S6 is going to be utilized), also Goblin and eventually Hobgoblin before any of the symbiotes are even brought up. Give me Mysterio, Kraven, Scorpion, Shocker...
Ya that is why I still like them do a slow build up to norman, brock, ock even conners. So we lay the seeds for their turn at a later time. But the main villains for at least 1 and 2 should be ones who haven't been on film yet.
Yeah, they certainly could have planned that out and probably would have worked better with an arc that started in the first movie. If I remember correctly, they even mentioned Eddie by name in SM1. Thing is, Sam was still creatively in control during SM1 and 2 and he was totally unfamiliar with Venom.
I'm not a Venom fan at all and I'd prefer they just keep the symbiotes out of these new movies completely but both Venom and Carnage are very popular. So...if they built an ongoing arc and made character introductions early/often that would definitely be a better approach this time around.
IMO, the classic villains are better in terms of motives, characterizations, and stories. I'd like to see Ock revisited at some point (especially if S6 is going to be utilized), also Goblin and eventually Hobgoblin before any of the symbiotes are even brought up. Give me Mysterio, Kraven, Scorpion, Shocker...
Venom would be great