Homecoming Who should be the Villain in Spider-Man (2017)? - Part 3

[Doctor Octopus]

They can but they really shouldn't kill off any major villains in the Spider-Man mythos

It not a problem if they only planning to use them in one movie. Might as well be dead if they never come back. At least death give them definitive ending. Marvel kill lots of main villains in their movies so it likely to happen in Spider-Man movies too.

 

[venom892]

I just think it shouldn't happen because it highlights who Spidey is. He would never let anyone die, not even his worse enemies. We can then see a young Parker struggle with that decision when a villain he saved terrorizes again.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Peter never let them die. Their death happen out of his control. Like how Green Goblin die.

 

[I'm Venom]

Honestly I have no problem with killing off Venom, IF they actually build Eddie up through a potential trilogy. Like say they introduce him in the first movie, before having him in a more prominent role in the next one (after Infinity War where Spider-Man finds the symbiote) and making him the villain in the third.

Even then, the only way to do it justice is to have Venom die from the shock of having Brock and the symbiote separated to prove how very close the bond they have is.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Here's what I want:

Follow "Spectacular Spider-Man's" route and have say Shocker or Flint Marko and Aleksei Sytsevich as starter villains. Their attempt at robbing a bank gets foiled by Spider-Man and are sent to Ryker's.

Meanwhile, Norman Osborn wants to find out who Spider-Man is and if his powers are connected to an incident that happened at Oscorp. Using his mob tie connections, he has Smythe or Hammerhead and his goons bust Herman Schultz or those two out of prison and then bring them back to Oscorp where he'd turn them into super villains.

Otherwise, Kraven the Hunter or Scorpion would be good choices, too, for a first movie and the reason I say that as J. Jonah Jameson could be partially responsible for their creations the same as Norman. Norman I feel needs to be the guy pulling the strings behind the curtain but I feel those two should be responsible for the first new trilogy villain. J.J. would somewhat change his mind that Spider-Man is a hero and not a wall-crawling menace (maybe even Spider-Man saves ol' sourpuss). I feel, yeah, Spidey has been around for awhile, but I feel thanks to the articles from the Daily Bugle, Peter is still having to prove himself to be a hero and not a vigilante and when you have Daredevil, Punisher, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones running around New York, outside of the attack from the Chitauri and Loki and the Avengers saving the day, New York is still trying to recover and thus view these masked individuals as good and bad. So, when you have Jameson making it harder for masked individuals to hold a place in New York and New Yorker's hearts and minds, I feel even with however many months Spider-Man has been at this superhero game, he still has a lot to do and prove to win over New York.

Which, by first movie's end, he would or maybe even the second movie everyone now accepts him as their hero.

 

[ernesth100]

Completely agree with all of that.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me i just dont want every baddie getting offed either by there own means or by peter at end of the film. I would like to have a few folks stay around for a few films to have a possible return be it in a spidey film or used elsewhere or for sinister six and all that. Now sure a few folks will probably die or get killed along the way be it lower tier guys or even a a/b lister guy. But death shouldnt mean they are totally off the table. As we know death can be reversed in the mcu by magic or technical means.

Ninja i personally wouldnt want oscorp tied to the spider/spidey powers at all. Same goes dont make them be villain factory maker like ultimate comics did and asm series was going for. I rather the spider bit and it getting powers be a fluke thing and like the original comics a out of the blue by chance thing. Oscorp should only be a weapons/tech/chemical company. And villains and others wanting to take tech/weapons from osborn for there own means and what not. Now yes we can have norman want to know more on spidey and get insane by it causeing him to go nuts and all. But we should not have oscorp be tied to every thing.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

How many films you think there be that villains can come back a few times?

 

[AvegningSpider]

How i myself think Spider-Man 2017 movie could be:
An intro in the beggining, showcassing Peter's story up until the Civil War, he moving with his uncles, the bite, wrestler times, the Uncle Death, vigilantism, a war between two titans, Peter's present The movie would actually start with the news,it would be very news based on how people react to a newbie Spidey, this time the news talking about Spidey's recent battle with a supervillain (Doc Ock, Shocker, White Rabbit, etc) and how it affected the area, at this time Peter is very reckless in battles, people don't die but there is still damage done.
Peter is in high school, he isn't really that much of a nerd but he is an outcast due to his personality, some see him as this shy kid, not very social, but in his group of friends he is this very animate guy, very relatable and quite nice.
The movie's villains would be either Mysterio (surprise, surprise) or the Spot.
Mysterio:Quentin Beck in here is still a special effects professional, mostly using practical effects and due to that he is quite famous in the film community, he is currently working on a documentary about The Avengers (from the Battle of New York to the fall of Sokovia), but during the filming, Spidey fought against a villain causing damage, injuring most of the crew. The reason he is fired is due to the people on top being a*******, but Beck doesn't see that, he thinks he was fired because of Spider-Man, at his most deep Beck is quite unsure and tries to succeed and being respected, this driving him into taking the fish bowl, the robes and the green suit.
The Spot: In here, Johnathan Ohnn worked for Kingpin, he was his tech guy, and since Fisk was arrested, John has been working secretly on a teleporting technology, thinking in using it to make himself rich, he himself just wants a big score and to get money, to be powerful, and when he becomes the Spot, he thinks to make this big score one way or another. But his classic looser personality is still there, he is still the Spot. His role in the movie would be a bit smaller, heck a constant joke could be him trying to tell Spidey his origin constantly, every time getting interupted.
The movie would mostly be about Peter as Spider-Man and as Peter Parker, he being a teen and Spider-Man, but not he and love issues, but he as a student mostly and his relation with his recently widowed aunt.

 

[Webhead2006]

well my idea still would be for 3 solos right now to have 2 guys per solo 1 and 2. So we have 4 guys locked up in jail. So then come time for 3rd film we can do a easy set up and plotline for sinister six right there. So then those first 4 guys get a second appearance. While many other guys like norman, connors, brock are minor/supporting guys who have a role through 3 or so films. Plus i said this before we cant think of spidey now as just 3 films and we are done and over. We have the whole mcu to play in now. So maybe villains or other characters could make appearances or returns on agents of shield like lady sif, maria hill, fury have. Or pop up in one of the netflix shows. Or be in some role in a future avengers film/other character film and what not.

 

[ernesth100]

First goal should be to make it past 3 solo's.

 

[Webhead2006]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

 

[AvegningSpider]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

• Doug Jones sounds sick for Chameleon!
• Forest Whitaker would be very interesting for Ock, wouldn't be against, it's more i would like it even more after seeing MKSM.
• CGM....Nah!
• Kraven is basically what most pepole want, including me.
• Venom could work if they with a Ultimate/SSM Brock friend of Peter, my choice is still Rick Cosnett.
• Carnage i am not talking because i just don't want him in a movie, but the actor is not bad.
• Norman, yeah why not.

 

[Webhead2006]

i do not want friend of peter friend of family ultimate take on brock. I want to see classic brock a rival at the ubgle his bad life blames spidey for this and that. We dont need to teen folks out and what not in my book.

 

[Venom'sDad]

AvegningSpider...Rick Cosnett is not a bad pick; I could live with that...he's not my 1st choice however. Other than Cranston as Norman, I really don't like any of the other choices mention...except maybe Gerald...again, not my 1st choice; but, I can live with that...not really a bad pick.

 

[AvegningSpider]

Rick Cosnett is not a bad pick; I could live with that...he's not my 1st choice however.

After seeing The Flash i just saw a version of Eddie Brock, but i can understand why some wouldn't pick him first for Venom.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Well, to be fair...I was not happy Nolan settle with Heath Ledger; but, he turn out to be a good cast for the role, so....

 

[Web-Head]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

I liked all of them except Cranston as Osborn (I feel he's too old) and I'm not a big fan of Moretz as Black Cat. Thanks for posting.

 

[PeterBenParker]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

• Malkovich for Vulture was originally planned, so I'd be cool with that. Still prefer Banks, though.
  
• Doug Jones for Chameleon would be sweet.
  
• Whitaker would be great in any CBM 'cause he's just that good. Him being Ock would certainly be an interesting choice.
  
• Would prefer CGM for MJ, honestly.
  
• Butler as Kraven is an absolute no from me. That's one choice that is beyond overused. Then again, you could probably say that for Fehr as Kraven so...
  
• Poulter as Venom is eh. They've tried some of the Ultimate route with SM3 and I didn't really care for it. Plus, we saw an almost identical character in TASM2 with Harry (which worked far better to me), so I'd rather 'em go full 616 with a few tweaks to make the character more interesting.
  
• Have absolutely no interest in seeing Carnage in a Spider-Man movie, so while Hayley's good, no thank you.
  
• Cranston as Norman is the ultimate dream pick for me..but that's exactly what it is -- a dream pick. I think the ship has sailed on that, sadly. They should aim for a 30-40 something actor for Norman, considering Holland's so young.

Thanks for posting!

 

[AvegningSpider]

• Malkovich for Vulture was originally planned, so I'd be cool with that. Still prefer Banks, though.
  
• Doug Jones for Chameleon would be sweet.
  
• Whitaker would be great in any CBM 'cause he's just that good. Him being Ock would certainly be an interesting choice.
  
• Would prefer CGM for MJ, honestly.
  
• Butler as Kraven is an absolute no from me. That's one choice that is beyond overused. Then again, you could probably say that for Fehr as Kraven so...
  
• Poulter as Venom is eh. They've tried some of the Ultimate route with SM3 and I didn't really care for it. Plus, we saw an almost identical character in TASM2 with Harry (which worked far better to me), so I'd rather 'em go full 616 with a few tweaks to make the character more interesting.
  
• Have absolutely no interest in seeing Carnage in a Spider-Man movie, so while Hayley's good, no thank you.
  
• Cranston as Norman is the ultimate dream pick for me..but that's exactly what it is -- a dream pick. I think the ship has sailed on that, sadly. They should aim for a 30-40 something actor for Norman, considering Holland's so young.

Exactly my same opinion except for CGM and Butler.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Exactly my same opinion except for CGM and Butler.

I just think Butler has become that go-to actor for any character with a beard and is defined, lol.

I understand where you're coming from with CGM though, as that'd be a super easy and safe choice, but I just enjoy her as an actress so to each their own, dude. t:

 

[Spider-Gnome]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

Well you know I'm in full agreement with their #1 choice! t:

 

[AvegningSpider]

Well you know I'm in full agreement with their #1 choice! t:

Of course you do, it's your friendly neighborhood Bryan Man.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Of course you do, it's your friendly neighborhood Bryan Man.

 

[ernesth100]

So i was googling spidey earlier and the website what culture had another list for villains and actors they like to see play said villains in the mcu spidey. I thought some might like there list:
http://whatculture.com/film/8-villains-for-the-mcu-spider-man-and-who-should-play-them.php

They came up with some solid villain choices only ones i really wasnt feeling was there eddie brock and to a degree there doc ock choice. But that actor they listed is a good actor.

Lot of good choices. But I highly disagree with Forest for Ock. While I would not mind Cranaton as Norman. Its not happenin.