Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version) - Part 1

Johnny-Oh said:
They better do 2 villains per movie
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I don't think they need any villains teaming up just quite yet, but with so many great Spidey villains needing a time to shine, they definitly need to have more than one per movie. Just not as part of the main fight.

For example: Mysterio (the big bad) and his henchman Shocker take a contract from Silvermane. There's the main conflict. And throw in some montage fights against guys like Boomerang or Beetle.
 
CaptainWagner said:
I don't think they need any villains teaming up just quite yet, but with so many great Spidey villains needing a time to shine, they definitly need to have more than one per movie. Just not as part of the main fight.

For example: Mysterio (the big bad) and his henchman Shocker take a contract from Silvermane. There's the main conflict. And throw in some montage fights against guys like Boomerang or Beetle.
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That's what I meant, one big villain and a side/supporting villain.
 
PeterBenParker said:
Yeah, though I do like Schultz so I'd be fine with either. I just wanna see that group.
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I liked Montana as Shocker in TSSM, I could live with a live-action version of that. Montana is the leader of the Enforcers, after all. If Schultz the one behind the mask, he makes no sense whatsoever with the other two.
 
It's obvious when people's main experience with Spider-Man is from the Spectacular Spider-Man. ;)
The Enforcers aren't all that exciting of a group, which is why Spectacular combined them. I'd rather not combine them again just because it's been done. But, then again, I find neither the Enforcers nor Shocker to be all that interesting by themselves.

BTW, I keep reading the thread title as "Who should the robot villain be." I'm like, uh, Spider Slayer?
 
Just cause they may have a few villains in film. They don't need to or should be teaming together. It could be one minor villain he take care of in start and middle of the film. And the main villain. Like how asm 2 was going for. Rhino as a minor threat at start and end. And electro the big bad.
 
Mike Murdock said:
It's obvious when people's main experience with Spider-Man is from the Spectacular Spider-Man. ;)
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First experience with Spider-Man was playing the PS1 games and watching repeats of the 60s and 90s cartoon.

From there, it was the Raimi trilogy (along with the tie-in games) and Ultimate Spider-Man.

After that, it was SSM.
 
Ultimately the villain has to serve whatever story Marvel/Sony want to tell for each given film. I would like them to return to the 1 villain per film formula of SM1,SM2, and ASM 1. It also seems to work fine for most of the Marvel films, including the Avengers films. The whole multiple villains thing is a hold over from the Burton/Schumacer years and it tends just to take the focus away from the protagonist and becomes about highlighting the 2 to 3 villains and really not amounting to much. In the end, they usually just do it to sell more toys than to really further the story.

That's not to say multiple villains can't work. I think they tend to work the best in the Nolan and Singer method of doing it, i.e. several villains who aren't all given backstories and aren't all the center of attention. That said though, I would really like a return to one compelling, threatening, villain per film, as opposed to just throwing multiple villains in the story for fan service or to sell toys.
 
I don't see issue if they throw in a minor threat to be taken out in opening minutes or another time while dealing with the main villain plot in relation to pete story.
 
Well they tried that with ASM 2, and to be fair, it could have worked their but the execution was just silly and not interesting. I think that idea worked a bit better with Strucker in AOU, but even then there were criticisms about the purpose of his character.

I prefer the minor villains to be more along the lines of Falcone or Scarecrow in BB or like the brotherhood members or Striker in the X Men films. They're villains who are threats but its not like they consume all of the story and do more harm than good as in the Schumacer films, SM3, and ASM 2. I'd just prefer one villain. If you have a good and strong story, that's all you need really.
 
Well spidey does have loads of z liters who can be used for an opening scene. Or during a montage sequence.
 
Webhead2006 said:
I think they be wasted in a role like that. Scorpion us a more looser idiot type role. I rather have sinese be maybe captain Stacy or maybe miles Warren type role.
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Gary Sinise would be a good Captain Stacy, but for Miles Warren I like Alan Tudyk!
 
Webhead2006 said:
He can use psychological stuff and still not have a personal connection
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Well if Mysterio is using cruel psychological tactics to drive Spidey mad, Spidey will likely take that personally, even if Mysterio's motives are not personal. Mysterio would seem really cruel if he tries to really hurt Spidey and has no real personal grudge against him, he is trying to hurt Spidey just to make himself famous.

I kind of agree that they have to take a new direction with the next Spidey villain, I would avoid sympathetic villains with connections to Spidey's past.

But here is the thing, there are two ways to do an unsympathetic villain, either make the villain a obnoxious jerk or make the villain a psychopathic monster. I think one of these is more compelling then the other. If Mysterio is just a jerk, there is nothing really compelling about him, what are the stakes if Spidey fails? If Mysterio is a monster, you really want Spidey to triumph over him and the stakes become higher, if Spidey fails people will die, rather then some banks getting robbed.

Mysterio making things personal, not because he has some grudge against Spidey, but because he finds the idea of breaking Spidey highly amusing, would make him the most vile foe Spidey has faced on the Silver Screen.

There is a huge difference between the two types of unsympathetic villains:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompleteMonster

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Jerkass
 
Well they could always say if they go mysterio and he has holo tech and maybe some mind control type gasses. That he doesn't know folks personally but the mix of tech and gasses the victim sees what's in there mind.

Not all villains need to be personally connected to cause pain and misery to pete. Again the only ones for that should be the osborns, brock, conners, and miles warren. Those are the only ones in my book that should have connection to pete and or over series learn his identity. The rest should not.
 
I wouldn't mind Mysterio it would be something fresh, also I wouldn't mind if they have Norman be the Thanos of The SMCU/MCU build him up as a villan, have him be the one pulling the strings in the dark, and then after everyone else fails to take out Spider-Man have him become Green Goblin to do it his self.
 
Ya but that was just a tiny voice role. Since he wasn't seen. We could easily use him again.
 
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