Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version)

[fixxxer]

Main villain: Doc Ock -- I like Mysterio quite a bit, but I think they should come out the gate a little stronger. I think Doc Ock would be the way to go for movie #1. Mysterio can appear in part 2 (2020) paired with a villain who's a physical threat to Spidey. When movie #1 comes out in 2017 it will have been 13 years since the previous incarnation. While Doc Ock has easily been the best of Spidey's cinematic villains thus far, that shouldn't scare Marvel/Sony off from trying to better the previous portrayal. I know Ock's usually portrayed as a bit of a chubby guy, but I think I really like Michael Emerson for the role. There's something about his personality that makes his characters feel both warm and chilling... often at the same time.

Seeded villain: Norman Osborn -- Introduce Oscorp as a tech. firm that dabbles in weapons and biological research, that basically is manufacturing "next gen" weapons for the government now that Stark Industries is out of the weapons manufacturing game, with Norman as its CEO. Build him up for a couple of films and he can go "full Goblin" in part 3 (2022). I'd absolutely love Bryan Cranston in the role, but unfortunately I'm not too sure he'll be up for a physical role come 2022 when he's 66 year old. Jason Isaacs?

 

[JOE]

Norman Osborn is a must, especially with his potential to branch out into the rest of the MCU.

My idea for him was never dealing with an experiment gone wrong, but rather a severe case of schizophrenia. Spider-Man has had nearly every villain as a tragic "lab mistake". Let's get a truly mentally unstable character. With Norman you can play around with it. Have him perfectly normal in public/board meetings/with Harry and when he's by himself you see his other half come out.

A rival company undercuts his buisness causing him to potentially lose a huge client. We see Norman acting calm, cool and collected in the board room. He's explaining that competition is good for business, how it's a cutthroat business they're in. We see Norman's eye twitching with a small smirk. Like his other side is dying to come out. Later on that night we see Norman as the Goblin murdering the CEO of said rival company by sliting his throat, laughing hysterically yelling, "I guess it is a CUTTHROAT business!" *Goblin menacing laugh* (Censorship for Pg-13 rating, imply what's going on)

That's the type of Goblin I want, an insane one. Screw the "I accidentally/purposefully without realizing the consequences took the green formula so I'm a nutcase now".

 

[The Joker]

I know Ock's usually portrayed as a bit of a chubby guy, but I think I really like Michael Emerson for the role. There's something about his personality that makes his characters feel both warm and chilling... often at the same time.

Emerson would be great, and wouldn't need to chubby up a bit at all. A more trim Ock has been done in the comics, too, and would work just fine;

Even Ditko originally drew him as a slim man;

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I would be perfectly fine with Ock as the villain for the reboot, but much like Spider-Man, I don't really want to see his origin again.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I would be perfectly fine with Ock as the villain for the reboot, but much like Spider-Man, I don't really want to see his origin again.

Ock is one villain that would benefit the most from having an origin, though. I feel it's better we get to know him before he turns down the wrong path.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Oh, man, Bryan Cranston as Norman Osborn and Michael Emerson as Dr. Otto Octavius would be awesome!

 

[Neno_Kos]

Oh, man, Bryan Cranston as Norman Osborn and Michael Emerson as Dr. Otto Octavius would be awesome!

Oscar Isaac for Norman Osborn and Oliver Platt as Dr. Otto Octavius would be amazing
Olek Krupa would be second choice for Ock.

 

[The Slang]

I'm not saying holograms themselves are implausible. I just don't buy into the idea of him throwing out tiny little cubes that happen to contain an extravagant display for whatever the situation needs. As Arach Knight points out you generally need things set up and lighting for something like that to work. Though while he seems open to the idea of holo-cubes, I'd like to see something a little more thoughtful than that.

Again, the holocubes don't just happen to contain an illusion the situation needs. It's not random. Mysterio programs the cubes to project specific illusions ahead of time. In the 90's cartoon Mysterio uses an illusion to make the roof of a museum appear to cave in. Later, Spider-man discovers Mysterio's lair at an abandoned studio and he finds a holocube there that projects the museum roof caving in.

Mysterio plans the illusion ahead of time, the cube isn't creating the illusion itself. I'm not sure why you would make that assumption. Mysterio is a strategist who plans his illusions. He relies not only on holograms, but robots, smoke screens and more.

 

[Neno_Kos]

Again, the holocubes don't just happen to contain an illusion the situation needs. It's not random. Mysterio programs the cubes to project specific illusions ahead of time. In the 90's cartoon Mysterio uses an illusion to make the roof of a museum appear to cave in. Later, Spider-man discovers Mysterio's lair at an abandoned studio and he finds a holocube there that projects the museum roof caving in.

Mysterio plans the illusion ahead of time, the cube isn't creating the illusion itself. I'm not sure why you would make that assumption. Mysterio is a strategist who plans his illusions. He relies not only on holograms, but robots, smoke screens and more.

Yh, he set a stage first for his magic performance.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

You know who would be the perfect Norman and Otto?

Christain Bale for Norman
Jason Alexander for Otto

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Christoph Waltz for ock everyday, maybe Ethan Hawke for Norman? Tho im not so sure I want them right away.. its just so tough to wanna see the same villains yet again and I dont think Marvel will do it, not right away at least. Mysterio would be good if done right but hes definitely a tough one to pull off..

 

[Arach Knight]

Christoph Waltz for ock everyday.

That would be an amazing casting choice.

 

[ernesth100]

I wonder if they'd have the balls to start off with a really small villain like Chameleon as the Big Bad. It won't happen but it'd be interesting to see what they do with it.

 

[Slade W]

Venom, instead of wasting time building up to him like the last films were and not having to wait till the 3rd film. Most people want to see a good Venom story and I am sure he is the villain most people want to see more than anyone else. I understand why he is always brought in late to stories and not right away but I am sick of waiting and do not want to have to go through other villains first and to wait and see if the films do well first before bringing him in. I would rather that they just start off strong. They cannot afford to take things slow anymore. He is the villain that has the most potential to make a good story IMO. I really do not want to see more Spiderman movies fail and reboot and then not get to do a Venom story again and then have to start waiting again before he is brought in. It will be 2030 before we get to see him at this rate.

 

[ernesth100]

If they wanted to do Venom first they could have Eddie go to Peter's school and develop there relationship in the first movie. I imagine maybe Eddie and Peter both like Gwen and when Peter gets her and all around makes Eddies life at school a living hell Eddie will want revenge.


We could then introduce the alien symbiote which gets out of containemnt and attaches itself to Peter making him more agressive as Spider-Man and when he almost kills a villain he realizes it's chaging him and takes it off. Obviously Eddie finds it and becomes Venom and fights Peter. They could have Eddie beat Peter and vowe to make his life a living hell after that. If they can do the Blqck Suit/Venom Arc in 30 minutes of a cartoon(21 if you take out commercials) then they can certainly pull it off in an hour and 45 minute long movie.

 

[Oscorp]

You know who would be the perfect Norman and Otto?

Christain Bale for Norman
Jason Alexander for Otto

That would be awesome!

 

[I'm Batman.]

If they wanted to do Venom first they could have Eddie go to Peter's school and develop there relationship in the first movie. I imagine maybe Eddie and Peter both like Gwen and when Peter gets her and all around makes Eddies life at school a living hell Eddie will want revenge.

We could then introduce the alien symbiote which gets out of containemnt and attaches itself to Peter making him more agressive as Spider-Man and when he almost kills a villain he realizes it's chaging him and takes it off. Obviously Eddie finds it and becomes Venom and fights Peter. They could have Eddie beat Peter and vowe to make his life a living hell after that. If they can do the Blqck Suit/Venom Arc in 30 minutes of a cartoon(21 if you take out commercials) then they can certainly pull it off in an hour and 45 minute long movie.

I'm sure they'll go through with Venom for a sequel so they can bring Brock in properly. A black costume Spider-Man storyline that leads into a third film with Venom. That honestly sounds like the trilogy I've wanted to see since I was a kid.

 

[ernesth100]

Err, with all due respect I don't want the Venom/Black Suit Arc taking up what could be spent introducing villians that never got to see the light of day in previous live action films. Scorpion, Mysterio, Vulture, Shocker, Kraven, I'd want to see something we haven't already seen before we do Venom again.

 

[Slade W]

I'm sure they'll go through with Venom for a sequel so they can bring Brock in properly. A black costume Spider-Man storyline that leads into a third film with Venom. That honestly sounds like the trilogy I've wanted to see since I was a kid.

I think they would do a black suit Spiderman and Venom in the same movie. It is hard to imagine otherwise. I just want a good Venom character and movie (Spiderman 3 was such a massive let-down). I hope they just start off with Venom. I really do not want to have to wait for them to use him, even using him in the 2nd movie is too much of a wait for me. I definitively do not want to have to wait for the 3rd film as that is way too long away and there is the usual chance that the films will flop and they will reboot again before we get the chance to see him. They should just start off strong with Venom IMO.

I hope these films spend less time establishing and building up characters and come out of the blocks quickly. The last Spiderman films seemed to spend to much time building up to things (new characters, villains, storylines and a big universe for spin-offs etc). The Dark Knight Trilogy would not be a bad template for Spiderman to follow by introducing established characters and villains (like the Joker and Bane were already fully formed characters) and not spending too much time giving them backstory. They spent a part of the first film on Batman's origins but it had not been done much on film before and tbf they did it well. everyone knows Spiderman's origins by now s there is no point dedicating much time to them.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Christoph Waltz for ock everyday

Agreed. He be so perfect.

Venom, instead of wasting time building up to him like the last films were and not having to wait till the 3rd film. Most people want to see a good Venom story and I am sure he is the villain most people want to see more than anyone else.

Disagreed. Nobody care when Venom spin off got cancelled. Venom not even got most votes on this thread poll. Vulture, Scorpion and Mysterio even have more votes than him lol.

Make no difference if Venom never get used. Be better if they never use him because he terrible villain.

 

[ernesth100]

There are 7.125 billion people on this planet. I assume atleast 1.25 billion of that is children. At least 2.50 billion of those are teens the rest are either adults or senior citizens. Now there are a couple of of nerds/geeks/fanboys&girls out there. Dylan O'Brien's fans alone are in the thousands. Spider-Man basing off his comic sales last year if memory serves correct has atleast a couple billion fans out there. Let's increase that a bit adding movie and merchandise sales and I'd say at least 3 billion fans(keep in mind I'm using the term fan as in "someone who is likes a character, actor, etc") out there of Spider-Man.


Yeah, Marvel can afford to take there sweet ass time with Spider-Man because regardless people will watch his films, new fans will come and it'll be a huge success because he's freaking Spider-Man. TASM2 made 700+ million in the box office. Which while low compared to other superhero films is incredibly high for films in general. Hell these days alot of films don't make it past 500 million and will have to pull some sort of miracle or be the first of it's kind to make a billion. SM3 which is considered to be an awful film by several Spider-Man fans made 800+ million dollars.


As long Spider-Man/Peter Parker is on screen in his red and blue fighting villains it'll make money and interest the general public, that is a fact.

 

[Slade W]

Agreed. He be so perfect.



Disagreed. Nobody care when Venom spin off got cancelled. Venom not even got most votes on this thread poll. Vulture, Scorpion and Mysterio even have more votes than him lol.

Make no difference if Venom never get used. Be better if they never use him because he terrible villain.

I was not aware that this forum represented everyone in the worlds opinion. Maybe he is a bad villain in your opinion but a lot of people like him. I know lots of people who were annoyed when his spin-off was cancelled. But fair play to you if you have the ability to know and represent everyone's opinion. He is one of the most popular villains. A lot of people who do not read comics would like him as the villain. I think a movie with him in it would be great and so would a lot of other people. No need to post lols at people who disagree.

 

[ernesth100]

^I laughed so hard at that comment because of the grammar. I thought Hulk was typing it.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Might want to work on your English there buddy. I was not aware that this forum represented everyone in the worlds opinion. Maybe he is a bad villain in your opinion but a lot of people like him. I know lots of people who were annoyed when his spin-off was cancelled. But fair play to you if you have the ability to know and represent everyone's opinion. He is one of the most popular villains. A lot of people who do not read comics would like him as the villain. I think a movie with him in it would be great and so would a lot of other people. No need to post lols at people who disagree.

English is not my first language. Forum is example of how Venom is not number one villain everyone want to see like you say. Show where there was a lot of annoyed people about Venom spin off being cancelled. I saw no big complaining.

Only Venom fans would be annoyed if he not be put in movies and movies would still be successful and better off with no Venom.

I post lols at Vulture and Scorpion getting more votes than Venom when you say he the villain everyone want to see most. It was funny when numbers show opposite of that here.

^I laughed so hard at that comment because of the grammar. I thought Hulk was typing it.

Thank you for compliment. Bruce Banner is a genius lol.

 

[Slade W]

^I laughed so hard at that comment because of the grammar. I thought Hulk was typing it.

Please point out my errors and impart onto me your wisdom my dear friend. I always like to learn new things. I probably make lots of grammar mistakes but I do not post lols at other people.