Just_Human
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Why was she credited as Jen?You mean Holly
Indeed, she is credited as Jen.Why was she credited as Jen?
Yeah, but why? I thought that character was Holly Robinson too. I know it was a small role, but it still would have been a nice nod to the character in the comics.Indeed, she is credited as Jen.
I agree. I would've preferred her to be officially labelled Holly as well, but for whatever reason they didn't do so. Nolan doing his own version of the character or something?Yeah, but why? I thought that character was Holly Robinson too. I know it was a small role, but it still would have been a nice nod to the character in the comics.
Yeah, but why? I thought that character was Holly Robinson too. I know it was a small role, but it still would have been a nice nod to the character in the comics.
Oh. That makes sense I guess, though I wouldn't imagine they would have to pay him that much.Read somewhere it's to avoid having to pay royalties to Frank Miller who created the character in Year One.
The BR relationship is still tops. You actually felt that Keaton/Pfeiffer COULD end up in a cafe together one day.
Read somewhere it's to avoid having to pay royalties to Frank Miller who created the character in Year One.
It was over the top, IMO. Especially on Pfeiffer's part.Yep. In Batman Returns, their relationship was quite sexually-charged and intense. And their characters were actually developed and their feelings were made clear. They definitely had chemistry.
I didn't hear that, but it does make sense. Thanks.Read somewhere it's to avoid having to pay royalties to Frank Miller who created the character in Year One.
Yep. In Batman Returns, their relationship was quite sexually-charged and intense. And their characters were actually developed and their feelings were made clear. They definitely had chemistry.
It was over the top, IMO. Especially on Pfeiffer's part.
But I view the Bat/Cat, Bruce/Selina relationship to be more complex than being sexually charged and driven by attraction. There's a moral grey line of whether they should even be in each others company as well as attraction, admiration, curiosity, and some disdain that I think Nolan managed to capture with his version. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked more scenes between them, but I liked what he delivered.
Selina Kyle is winning?
I'll take Rachel Dawes over her anyday. Rachel taught Bruce the difference between justice and revenge, he longed to be with her since childhood, she was the one hope he had past Batman, her death shook him to the core, changing him into a recluse, and the two characters had two whole movies to develop a believable relationship together, where we, the viewer, became invested in the two and wanted to see them together.
Selina was just some tart in a tight suit, who stole his dead mother's jewelry, despised him entirely, left Bruce to die at the hands of Bane, hardly shared any scenes with him, and despite all of this, for some reason, at the end of the movie she asks him to "runaway with her" and in the end, we're led to believe they get married and live happily ever after. (There's something to add to the "Unintentionally funny Moments" thread..)
Bruce/Rachel FTW.
The BR relationship is still tops. You actually felt that Keaton/Pfeiffer COULD end up in a cafe together one day.
Bruce and Selina.
Alfred and the entire Russian ballet is second.
Followed by Bruce and two supermodels.
Who knows what happened after Bruce left?
Couldn't agree more. Alfred/Bruce FTW.Bruce and Alfred.
Scenes in TDKR had me choked up far more than any romantic one did in the entire series. Plus, these two loved one another from the very day Wayne was born.
Selina Kyle is winning?
I'll take Rachel Dawes over her anyday. Rachel taught Bruce the difference between justice and revenge, he longed to be with her since childhood, she was the one hope he had past Batman, her death shook him to the core, changing him into a recluse, and the two characters had two whole movies to develop a believable relationship together, where we, the viewer, became invested in the two and wanted to see them together.
Selina was just some tart in a tight suit, who stole his dead mother's jewelry, despised him entirely, left Bruce to die at the hands of Bane, hardly shared any scenes with him, and despite all of this, for some reason, at the end of the movie she asks him to "runaway with her" and in the end, we're led to believe they get married and live happily ever after. (There's something to add to the "Unintentionally funny Moments" thread..)
Bruce/Rachel FTW.