Why Craig is so poor as Bond - not a troll post.

Danger Mouse said:
I would like to be the first to announce that this thread couldn't be any further from the truth.

Craig is most definitely James Bond.

Considering the thread is an opinion, I don't see how it could be considered 'truth' and therefore 'further from' it.

I was a skeptic as well, but at least I was open to the fact that Craig could be a good Bond since he is a good actor, despite his looks.

Worse than the skeptics are the people that relish in saying "nanananboo boo, your OPINION was wrong! You dumb naysayers!" Some of the people in this thread are very guilty of that, and should be ashamed.

We should be glad that there is a good Bond movie out finally...if it indeed turns out to be good, but that is up to the individual to decide, not a review or some messageboard.
 
pointman said:
You havn't even seen the movie so right now, your just chatting a load of air.

I suggest you be quiet.I have been to Great Britain,and unlike the Americans who say nearly all the movies they see are good.I think i have a firm grasp on what James Bond is.True,what i say is merly my own thoughts.Its just that i dont think he ammounts to the true James Bonds like Sean Connery or Roger Moore.
 
super_fan said:
http://www.iklipz.com/Movies.aspx?MovieID=20bdebb1-518a-4396-aa7b-5d99b06b796a

Watch the clip and listen and see Craig say:

"Well I wouldn't be any good at my job if it did."

Is that well-acted? Is it said with confidence, or charm or anything remotely Bond-like?

I stopped reading after this...
couldn't disagree with you more. You're obviously a fan of the 'old' Bond films. You're alone. There's more than a few great reasons on why they were cancelled concepts. The people who financed this film and the studio disagree with you too. Get ready for this-likely the biggest bank on any Bond film ever. Get ready for the most loved James Bond ever.
Enjoy that corner watching old Bond films with awful scripts, bad acting, action that stinks and ... well, any other Bond film pales in comparison to Casino Royale. Craig rocks. Big time. Do you think Roger Moore, Sean Connery or Dalton or Brosnan could take Craig in a fight? Do you?? Yeesh. Looks? What is it, you want to date Bond?
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The line wasn't supposed to be "charming" or "Bond-like" because he wasn't there yet as a character -- he was still trying to figure things out and he still had a lot of things to go through before his emotional click over to 007.

I think he was great, Connery's Bond. Just like Moore's, Dalton's and Brosnan's were each their own bond. And each good in their own remarks. (Even Dalton had a few things worth liking - and it wasn't Brosnan's fault his movies were sub-par. Because Goldeneye was great.)

So anyway - yes - he is a troll.
 
Saw it last night...Craig is, in my opinion, the best Bond yet. Yes even surpassing Connery. Connery will always be remembered as the classic Bond...the Bond that started it all...

...but mark my words, Daniel Craig will be looked at as Bond the way Christian Bale is looked at as Batman. As the most accurate depiction of the literary Bond. Daniel nailed everything perfectly. For the first time in my life, I actually had the feeling that I wanted to be Bond. I never got that from Connery, Moore, Dalton, or even Brosnan. Craig might not be the dashingly handsome like pretty boy Brosnan, but he has the rugged, bad boy thing goin' on that women love so much.

The only thing that could make Craig anymore Bond-like is dying his hair darker. Other than that....he's all Bond baby...and I look forward to seeing him in more Bond films!

I wish Martin Campbell would just take over as the official Bond director...hehe.
 
DorkyFresh said:
Saw it last night...Craig is, in my opinion, the best Bond yet. Yes even surpassing Connery. Connery will always be remembered as the classic Bond...the Bond that started it all...

...but mark my words, Daniel Craig will be looked at as Bond the way Christian Bale is looked at as Batman. As the most accurate depiction of the literary Bond. Daniel nailed everything perfectly. For the first time in my life, I actually had the feeling that I wanted to be Bond. I never got that from Connery, Moore, Dalton, or even Brosnan. Craig might not be the dashingly handsome like pretty boy Brosnan, but he has the rugged, bad boy thing goin' on that women love so much.

The only thing that could make Craig anymore Bond-like is dying his hair darker. Other than that....he's all Bond baby...and I look forward to seeing him in more Bond films!

I wish Martin Campbell would just take over as the official Bond director...hehe.

Agreed man :woot:

BTW, who is directing the 22nd Bond film?? I wish Campbell would come back :csad:
 
super_fan said:
http://www.iklipz.com/Movies.aspx?MovieID=20bdebb1-518a-4396-aa7b-5d99b06b796a

Watch the clip and listen and see Craig say:

"Well I wouldn't be any good at my job if it did."

Is that well-acted? Is it said with confidence, or charm or anything remotely Bond-like?

Nope. How can someone so poor at acting like Bond rival Sean Connery? It's impossible. Just look at Craig acting that line. It's poor - Craig has zero confidence, charm, his delivery is leaden. People call me a troll but look at the evidence. Is that the sort of acting you expect to see from a Bond actor? If it's not then you have to question all these reviews that say "Craig is the best Bond ever, the second best to Connery etc."

Just watch and listen to Craig say that line. Is that James Bond or just Daniel Craig speaking with zero conviction? It's the latter. Call me a troll but I'm just telling it how I see it. And I see a terribly miscast actor playing James Bond.

That line is not only badly acted - Craig is clearly failing to open his mouth to deliver the line - the glass covering his mouth makes it look and sound worse.

Craig clearly has no Bond confidence - he admitted the criticism got to him during the early weeks of shooting. And it seems to be evident in these tv spots. Now people say, "Craig is amazing" but if he's so amazing why is that line delivered in such a poor, flat, totally non-Bond way? Why does Craig say "well I understand 00s have a very short life expectancy " in the same drab manner?

Something doesn't add up. If Craig is so amazing, why have Eon and Sony put badly acted lines in the trailer and tv spots? Where is the proof Craig is so amazing? I can't see it in the trailers and tv spots. Where's his Bond confidence? I see none of it. Okay, they're just tiny snippets but they're meant to sell the film to the public. I don't think they work. I''m not sold on Craig so Sony and Eon have failed one Bond fan - me.

If Craig is so great then I suggest Sony Pictures release some actual clips - 30 seconds or so in length - and let's see Craig *acting*. Let's hear his delivery, how he reacts. I'n not believing one word of any review, nor one word from any fan that's gone to a preview screening because as annoying a person as I can be here, I trust my eyes and ears. Craig looks and sounds uncomfortable - the delivery seems dour and monotone - that is my evidence - my proof.

And unless I see some actual clips or break my promise and pay to see Casino Royale, I'm not taking any other person's word that "Craig is the best Bond since Connery." Connery would have said the CR trailer lines with genuine charm or confidence - Craig doesn't and I fail to see how this man is worthy to play the most iconic movie hero of the 20th century.

I'm with you on the Bond front! The Bond character has to be a leading man and believable as Bond - not come across as the high school janitor on parole! Craig is support role caliber only, not a headliner. Storyline was good, and I sat hoping for better things last night in a theatre of 12 people, and left after 40 minutes. Everyone in the theatre was laughing and groaning - he is James Bland not Bond. It was unanimous – Craig can’t act and is the worst Bond ever! We could have saved our money and gone to see “Happy Feet”! It’s a story about dancing Penguin’s and running neck and neck with Bond at the box office. Very appropriate! If prior Bonds could be compared to a car it would be an Aston Martin, Craig comes across as a run down Moped! He’s already past his “sell by date”.
 
I'm with you on the Bond front! The Bond character has to be a leading man and believable as Bond - not come across as the high school janitor on parole! Craig is support role caliber only, not a headliner. Storyline was good, and I sat hoping for better things last night in a theatre of 12 people, and left after 40 minutes. Everyone in the theatre was laughing and groaning - he is James Bland not Bond. It was unanimous – Craig can’t act and is the worst Bond ever! We could have saved our money and gone to see “Happy Feet”! It’s a story about dancing Penguin’s and running neck and neck with Bond at the box office. If prior Bonds could be compared to a car it would be an Aston Martin, Craig comes across as a run down Moped! He’s already past his “sell by date”.:wow:
 
redintn said:
I'm with you on the Bond front! The Bond character has to be a leading man and believable as Bond - not come across as the high school janitor on parole! Craig is support role caliber only, not a headliner. Storyline was good, and I sat hoping for better things last night in a theatre of 12 people, and left after 40 minutes. Everyone in the theatre was laughing and groaning - he is James Bland not Bond. It was unanimous – Craig can’t act and is the worst Bond ever! We could have saved our money and gone to see “Happy Feet”! It’s a story about dancing Penguin’s and running neck and neck with Bond at the box office. Very appropriate! If prior Bonds could be compared to a car it would be an Aston Martin, Craig comes across as a run down Moped! He’s already past his “sell by date”.

I think its safe to say that if Ian Fleming were alive today he would have SERIOUS issues with the way Bond was mistaken for a valet in CR.

I agree with you, Craig is not leading man material and especially not James Bond. I guess the bright side is that he's committed to 3 only, so hopefully after his contract expires we'll get an actor who better fits the role physically.
 
Casino Royale has debuted in the UK with a higher grossing opening than DAD. (Adjusting for inflation??). Regardless,.......and I hate to say it,....but RIP James Bond. :(
 
All this slagging on Craig is comical. It's not like there is side to side compitition here, the old movies are still there if you want them, but dont make out that Brosnan could've done this role in this version of the character.
 
I saw CS last night, I think when Craig is playing up to his rugged, bad boy persona he does well and pulls it off, but when he tries to be smooth and charming he falls flat on his face as he lacks the charisma to pull it off. I felt the scenes when he is baring his sole, he does not show enough emotion to make me feel for him and his plight. Overall he gives a good account of himself, but is no where near the class of Connery or Moore
 
^. Bond, hasn't perfected his ladies man/womaniser persona yet. In Bond 22 we'll see more charisma. It's because of Vespers betrayal that he turns on the super charms to get into womans prize pocessions-their pants. The Bond we all know would not have left Solange with a bottle of champagne, to go to miami and stop a terrorist attack...he would have tapped it first! :D. That demostare that Bond was not BOND yet.
 
Golgo13:The Hitman said:
^. Bond, hasn't perfected his ladies man/womaniser persona yet. In Bond 22 we'll see more charisma. It's because of Vespers betrayal that he turns on the super charms to get into womans prize pocessions-their pants. The Bond we all know would not have left Solange with a bottle of champagne, to go to miami and stop a terrorist attack...he would have tapped it first! :D. That demostare that Bond was not BOND yet.

Of course he's not there yet. The problem is Craig will never get there! Like The Game said, he doesn't have the charisma. This is something you have or you don't. And Craig doesn't have it.
 
redintn said:
I'm with you on the Bond front! The Bond character has to be a leading man and believable as Bond - not come across as the high school janitor on parole! Craig is support role caliber only, not a headliner. Storyline was good, and I sat hoping for better things last night in a theatre of 12 people, and left after 40 minutes. Everyone in the theatre was laughing and groaning - he is James Bland not Bond. It was unanimous – Craig can’t act and is the worst Bond ever! We could have saved our money and gone to see “Happy Feet”! It’s a story about dancing Penguin’s and running neck and neck with Bond at the box office. If prior Bonds could be compared to a car it would be an Aston Martin, Craig comes across as a run down Moped! He’s already past his “sell by date”.:wow:
Aw, bless...
 
Gammy79 said:
fighting to the very end, eh Craig haters? :rolleyes:
Yup. But at this point, it doesn't matter. It's just different views, and people will dissent over Craig, just as there has been dissention over every previous Bond.

CASINO ROYALE has won. It's going to have a great opening weekend, and it's been critically received with open arms (a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes - unheard of for a Bond film - and virtually every one of them full of praise for Daniel Craig).
 
Golgo13:The Hitman said:
^. Bond, hasn't perfected his ladies man/womaniser persona yet. In Bond 22 we'll see more charisma. It's because of Vespers betrayal that he turns on the super charms to get into womans prize pocessions-their pants. The Bond we all know would not have left Solange with a bottle of champagne, to go to miami and stop a terrorist attack...he would have tapped it first! :D. That demostare that Bond was not BOND yet.

No way. That moment was extremley Bondian. Bond is totally commited to his job;

'Being a man, he wanted to sleep with Vesper, but only after the job was finished'.

That's an excerpt from the Casino Royale novel. He wouldn't stick around to bone a hot woman when there is a terrorist on the loose and he has only a limited amount of time. I definatley would, that girl was smoking, but Bond wouldn't. He just used her. If she hadn't died he probably would have gone back. Very Bond, reminded me of Connery.
 
Gammy79 said:
:dry:

That's kinda cool I guess...fighting to the very end, eh Craig haters? :rolleyes:

WTFreak, dude come better than ''Craig Haters'' I think he brings a diffrent take on Bond does quite well, but if you think he has charisma to compare with Connery then thats just pure fanboy stupidity.
 
Tojo said:
No way. That moment was extremley Bondian. Bond is totally commited to his job;

'Being a man, he wanted to sleep with Vesper, but only after the job was finished'.

That's an excerpt from the Casino Royale novel. He wouldn't stick around to bone a hot woman when there is a terrorist on the loose and he has only a limited amount of time. I definatley would, that girl was smoking, but Bond wouldn't. He just used her. If she hadn't died he probably would have gone back. Very Bond, reminded me of Connery.
What does the novel say about him leaving Solange? You do know we're talking about Solange and not Vesper?
 
connery, brosnan, craig in that order are the top 3 actors to play bond.
 
Golgo13:The Hitman said:
What does the novel say about him leaving Solange? You do know we're talking about Solange and not Vesper?
Solange isn't in the novels.

But in the novels, Bond always puts his job above sex. As it should be.
 
Agentsands77 said:
Solange isn't in the novels.

But in the novels, Bond always puts his job above sex. As it should be.

But, what if his job is sex? ;)
 
The Riddler said:
connery, brosnan, craig in that order are the top 3 actors to play bond.

Can't comment on Craig yet, but I agree with you about Connery and Brosnan. :up:
 

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