Why Do Girls Like jerks?

J Alba's Lover said:
Yeah exactly. I'm done being everyones puppet and dancing for them.

you...uh...danced for people *shudders*
 
The bad boys will always have their appeal to some women, but thankfully it wears off on a lot. That's where being a nice guy without laying on the nice too thick all the time pays off.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Now think of this phenomenon from the "nice guy's" perspective. To the "nice guy" any man who is not doting on a woman is in effect, an ass...so why the hell would she be wasting her time with him. Because he is not going "out of his way" (although in some cases the way he is acting is intentional) to get her, this illustrates confidence. I don't need you because I am independent and confident without you. The nice guy, on the otherhand...who most likely showers her with attention (giving her a major rash)...appears dependent on her acceptance of him, therefore driving her more away.
Goddamn, you just described me to a T, I'm in love!
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On the real though, it can't be explained better than that. I'm sick of that "I'm the nice guy, why can't I get girls" bs. It's human nature to desire what we necessarily can't get, the whole Forbidden Fruit theory. Sh1t is so basic, I don't get why it's so hard to grasp for others. Hence why girls do go after the guys that look like they don't even care for them. I'd bet you half of them know exactly what they're doing, and put that up as a front because they know it works. I'm one of them. :o

Ain't nothin' wrong with being nice, but there is a problem with being "too nice", which I presume is where some of ya are at. I personally hate people that are too polite, it just annoys the hell outta me for some reason. When you come off like that to your peers, one word sticks out: boring.

So that's why you can't get girls. You're just not interesting. Work on that. :oldrazz:
 
Confidence. Once a guy makes clear to a girl that he is totally independant and unwilling to go out of his way to please her, he becomes a challenge, and everyone likes a challenge. Basically all a guy has to do is reverse it, see yourself as the prize. Put yourself up on the pedastool, and see all women as competing for you, not the other way around. It'll automatically put out an aura of confidence, and all sorts of good things happen with confidence.
 
C-$ said:
I was talking to some of my coworkers at work and one of them who happens to be a female (Katy)was telling how guys should act towards women.She was saying that girls like guys who are confident ect and this guy kind of interrupts and says "act like a a$$hole", that'll work. Even Katy admiited that girls like jerks which sucks becuase nice guys like me never get anywhere. It's been like that all of my life. I can never get the girl that I want but I get the left overs(you know what I mean) instead.

Ladies, why do like guys that act like *******s?

Well this is the god honest truth man. And it's good you've realized this now rather than later. I know a ton of women and its' the same scenario. In fact my last Ex.... she broke up with me... Even though she admited I was the sweetest, nicests guy she ever met..... So when we broke up I started to act like a total prick to her, never answering her phone calls or emails....and then she wants to get back together...and it's we've been together now for a year now. Go figure....and I haven't gone back to my sweet nice guy person since
 
^ Why'd she break up with you in the first place?
 
In college, there was this chick I liked. We got to talking and then I told her "I just realized that you're an annoying c-nt". I walked away and stopped trying to get a chick.
 
Christ.

This is one of those "WhAAAAaa! I suck with the ladies and all the guys who ROCK with the ladies are just jerks!" threads.

Nice Guy Syndrome is a ****ing joke.

No woman wants to be abused, belittled or genuinely feel bad about herself in a relationship.

But they also don't want some passive sycophant, which I'm just presuming, from your all around aesthetic of suck, that you are.

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X 10000

:whatever:
 
This is like taking the path of the Dark Side.Only this time there's not Sith Lord to guide us there.
 
JLBats said:
Christ.

This is one of those "WhAAAAaa! I suck with the ladies and all the guys who ROCK with the ladies are just jerks!" threads.

Nice Guy Syndrome is a ****ing joke.

No woman wants to be abused, belittled or genuinely feel bad about herself in a relationship.

But they also don't want some passive sycophant, which I'm just presuming, from your all around aesthetic of suck, that you are.

:down

X 10000

:whatever:
Where's your gf? :o
 
Mr Sparkle said:
LOL "pedastool"
*pedestal :cwink:

Guys are conditioned from an early age that the nice guy gets the girl. Think about it. Watch any romantic movie, any of the Disney movies we all watched as kids growing up, remember your parents when you were little (if you were fortunate to have parents that were happy together), and what do they all have in common? The guy is always bending over backwards to satisfy every desire of the girl. So we take that sentiment and apply it every time we try to court a girl. And it doesn’t work. We end up embarrassing ourselves. And the more we embarrass ourselves, the more awkward and tense it seems every time we see that girl, yet we still try, and we embarrass ourselves over and over again. But we still hold on to hope and continue to pursue something that isn't gonna happen until the girl is purposely avoiding us. It’s a viscous cycle, and it sucks. It starts to make us wonder what’s wrong with us.

There’s nothing wrong. We're just approaching it the wrong way. Sex for both men and women is a biological fulfillment, which at one time was all we existed for. So attraction between men and women hasn't changed much. Men want a woman with pleasing physical features, large breasts, round hips, an attractive, feminine face, and as Al Pacino said a "GRRRREAT ASS", all the requirements for successfully birthing children. Women on the other hand look for strong men, men who are the master of their domain, a man who would be able to protect her and her children, men of confidence. So when we go up to a girl we like and make it blatantly obvious we would lick the dog **** off their shoe if they wanted it, biologically, the woman is not attracted to him. Think about it. What kind of guys gets the girls? "Jerks", and "Alpha Males". What do they have in common? Confidence. They refuse to be led around by the nose by anyone, especially women. Once a guy can look at a girl of any degree of attractiveness and not give a flying **** whether she likes him or not, it gives him an air of confidence, and it makes him a challenge to the girl, and as I already said, everyone likes challenges. That doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to be a "jerk", because that will only make you seem arrogant. You just have to make it clear that you're independent and uncaring of what others think of you; confident. And then you'll be the man.
 
JLBats said:
No woman wants to be abused, belittled or genuinely feel bad about herself in a relationship.

But they also don't want some passive sycophant, which I'm just presuming, from your all around aesthetic of suck, that you are.

remove the overwhelming contempt for humanity and that's pretty much what I said.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
remove the overwhelming contempt for humanity and that's pretty much what I said.

For which I applaud you and stuff:yay::up:
 
I actually decided when i was younger that...people just arent worth following around. If you find someone, you find someone. If you're a nice guy and the girl dosent want you, you shouldnt be together. There are people out there for the "nice guy", and people who limit themselves to "jerks" are probably looking for the wrong reasons

But also....girls dont just look for jerks, at least not where i'm from. They dont want a guy bending over backwards for them, but they dont want someone who just dosent give a damn about them either. The extremes between the super nice guy and the real complete ******* dont really exist, except in the movies. Maybe some of you who believe that are just a little angry that those so called types are more successful at getting what they want then you are.
 
JLBats said:
For which I applaud you and stuff:yay::up:

you're too young to be so jaded.
go sit in a field of flowers until you feel all the negative energy leave your body man!!!!!
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Remember people, girls/women like concepts. Confidence, Character, Love, Power, etc. Show any of this with a slice of passion and you can have that girl/woman. Figure out how to give said female the 'concepts' she looking for and you can have ANY girl/woman.

Best advise though... find out which ones you genuinely have, use those and you will probably get the RIGHT girl/woman.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
you're too young to be so jaded.
go sit in a field of flowers until you feel all the negative energy leave your body man!!!!!
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LOL

Generally I'm only jaded when somebody like Man-Thing makes a ******ed comment or someone like C-$ blames his troubles with girls on being "too much of a nice guy".

Otherwise, no worries, no problems. I'm hooked into the sweet, sweet love juices of the galaxy.

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Angry Sentinel said:
Remember people, girls/women like concepts. Confidence, Character, Love, Power, etc. Show any of this with a slice of passion and you can have that girl/woman. Figure out how to give said female the 'concepts' she looking for and you can have ANY girl/woman.

Best advise though... find out which ones you genuinely have, use those and you will probably get the RIGHT girl/woman.


Exactly.

Are you funny? Sarcastic? Honest? What type of person are you? If you're just a guy trying to say and do the right things, then its not gonna cut it.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
don't get me wrong, you're not completely incorrect, but you're generalizing and focussing on your experience in the matter ( you'll notice how you refer to yourself as the jerk) what I'm saying is that Nice Guys CAN get girls.
a lot of them infact.
so, actually both camps get their share of girls.
nice and confident are not mutually exclusive.
I think we're having a difference between what we mean by "nice guys". As I say, when people pose the question "why can't nice guys get any girls" it rarely refers to actual "nice guys"....because in most cases I'd say the "nice guys" who aren't getting girls are either a) too shy to meet them so then their point is moot or b) getting shot down. If it is the latter, which would inspire this thread, then what we're dealing with is the pathological "nice guy".

Perhaps a better term (hence my use of parenthesis) is "guy with social interaction problems". Unlike myself, who originally was a "nice guy", certain individuals did not have anyone teach them about women and how to interact and get women. Most guys succeed either on persistence, chance or not at all. "Nice guys" as I am referring to here are not actually nice, they are in fact doormats who are willing to do anything to get a girl and are overly afraid of stating both their feelings and intentions.

"Jerks" or guys with confidence and game aren't necessary really actually ass****, just that they employ different tactics than say a "nice guy" (or guy with social interaction problems) that don't involve doting, being overly PC (which often results in a lack of humor), giving too much information about yourself on first encounters.
 
No, its all true, the more sarcastic and more of a wanker you are to girls the more impressed they seem to be. You can even make fat jokes about their friends and they love it.... well they say they hate it, but they love it.
 

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