Why is All-Star Superman just owning All-Star Batman

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    Well issue 3 has just come out and once again I dont see why AS B&RTBW cant just follow the same format. I mean if I were DC I would pull As B&RTBW and redo the whole series and relunch it because A.S.S is just killing it.
     
  2. roach I am the night

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    i didnt know AS.S and AS.BR were in competition. I guess Marvel should pull Ultimate Spiderman since it isnt selling as much as the Ultimates????
     
  3. Lackey Avenger

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    AS Batman is selling more than AS Superman


    so I don't think AS Superman is owning AS Batman
     
  4. roach I am the night

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    I actually like AS B&R because I think that is how Batman would treat Dick. In the military you are broken down before you are trained up and Dick as Robin would be a 12-14 year old boy fighting men and watching his back.
     
  5. drastic_quench Sidekick

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    As anyone who read comics in the 90's knows, sales don't equal quality. All-Star Superman is a more well-written comic than All-Star Batman - that's why it's "just owning" ASB&RTBW.
     
  6. Super_Ludacris Avenger

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    Quality wise All-star Batman is a huge dissapointment. But of course Batman is gonna outsell the Krypton Klown :)
     
  7. Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.

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    Damn, Beat me to it - although you said it better than I could have. :up:
     
  8. Lackey Avenger

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    just a matter of opinion, I happen to think AS Batman is great :)

    so again, AS Superman isn't owning AS Batman
     
  9. That-Guy Avenger

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    AS Superman isn't the greatest Superman comic I've read, but I did really like the first 2 issues... AS Batman has been complete crap every step of the way though, IMO... so, I guess I'm on the AS.S ownz AS.B side.
     
  10. Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.

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    AS Batman is very pretty to look at but doesnt have the 'substance' that AS Superman has. Instantly forgettable is the best way I can describe it.
     
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    "I'm the Goddamn Batman" isn't that forgettable. I like the book and I bet it gets better in the next issue.
     
  12. drastic_quench Sidekick

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    True, but there's little substance there. It's just shock. Actually, Miller is somewhat analogous to a radio shock jock. He's got nothing original or thoughtful left to say so he's purposefully trying to be controversial just for the sake of shock value.
     
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    it's only controversial for those who don't like it :)
     
  14. Not Jake Superhero

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    i would rather have Quitely than Lee

    i would rather have Miller illustrate himself, too
     
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    I don't particularly think this comic is controversial. I think Miller's visibly trying to be controversial. That's a lot worse.

    I like a lot of Miller's work and I was rooting for this book to be good. Unfortunately it's pretty awful on all accounts (with the exception of Lee's art).
     
  16. Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.

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    Quitely's great IMO. His storytelling is excellent, not to mention that he can draw just about any kind of scene a writer would want. You want Action? Quitely can do it. You want intimate character-based moments? Science Fiction? Comedy? Quitely can do it. And do it well.

    Some people say his characters faces are ugly - I say they have individual character with mannerisms and facial expressions (unlike some artists, who seem to copy the same face for everyone - Dave Finch springs to mind)

    Lee's good, in a hollywood summer blockbuster kind of way, but I dont consider his artwork to be as well-rounded as Quitley's.
     
  17. XwolverineX Avenger

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    I heard over in th' Marvel forums Bought/Though that ASS #3 sucked. :confused::o:down
     
  18. The Batman The Dark Knight

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    You're right.

    It's completely destroying it.
     
  19. Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.

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    ;) lol
     
  20. The Sage The World's Finest

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    Why is All-Star Superman owning All-Star Batman?

    Grant Morrison is a better writer than Frank Miller. Plus, Miller's lost it.
     
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    I remember when people were saying that about the first issue of All-Star Batman. "It'll get better! It'll probably get better! Just wait!"[​IMG]

    Actually, the better excuses were the ones that claimed Miller was just pranking us and having a big laugh. Like, you know, people would rather believe that it was all a trick than believe that Miller could ever write something so horrible, so plodding, and so ridiculous.
     
  22. The Batman The Dark Knight

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    You notice that miller claims the crappy comics he writes are satires or parodies?
     
  23. Not Jake Superhero

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    morrison is not better than frank miller:o
     
  24. BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon

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    Oh he so is.
     
  25. XwolverineX Avenger

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    Yeah? :confused: That IS why it's ownin' ASB? :confused:
     

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