Why is All-Star Superman just owning All-Star Batman

[Not Jake]

he has put out better-regarded stuff in recent times but when one compares writers one tends to compare entire bodies of work. Franks Miller's body of work is up with the holy trinity of he, moore, and gaiman. You can put morrison in the holy...square.

 

[Lackey]

You're right.

It's completely destroying it.

only in your mind

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The writing. It's the writing. That's why ASBR has blown.

ASS (lol) has had a pretty interesting, very "out there" writing.....where, some crazy things are kinda happening....but they're making sense as being out of continuity.

Whereas, ASBR......not really making much sense to me.

 

[The Batman]

only in your mind

Not just mine. The majority seems to think that All Star supes kicks ASB's ass six ways to sunday. just the way it is, lackey.

 

[Lackey]

Not just mine. The majority seems to think that All Star supes kicks ASB's ass six ways to sunday. just the way it is, lackey.

oh, so we're going back to the popularity thing... well, look at my first post in this thread

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Am I the only one who's enjoying both titles equally?

 

[Lackey]

Am I the only one who's enjoying both titles equally?

I like them both.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I like them both.

Yay! I have an All-Star buddy!

 

[The Batman]

oh, so we're going back to the popularity thing... well, look at my first post in this thread

and yet most people are still saying All Star Supes is better!

It's like saying that bush is still popular when his approval ratings are low...just because most people voted for him in the election.

 

[Lackey]

and yet most people are still saying All Star Supes is better!

It's like saying that bush is still popular when his approval ratings are low...just because most people voted for him in the election.

a handful of people on a message board versus thousands of sales


more people are buying AS Batman, it's as simple as that... so you have no argument of popularity. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

 

[Bullseye]

At this point, three issues into each book.. All Star Superman is the better title out of the two. Miller known for the unexpected so we will have to see what is next.

 

[Green Lantern]

And many of the people buying it are complaining about the quality. How many of those thousands are people who will keep buying it just because its Batman?

 

[Bullseye]

Well, I am buying because its Batman. Miller. Lee.

 

[LibrarianThorne]

Frank Miller's done some great stuff. DKR, Sin City, Daredevil, Year One, all simply phenomenal stuff.

Morrison's done New X-Men, Skrull Kill Krew, JLA, Seven Soldiers, 52, and All-Star Superman. Sure, no one thing that Grant Morrison has done is equal to the Dark Knight Returns, but if you look at the overall body of work, Morrison is more consistently excellent than Frank Miller. Moreover, Quitely and Morrison make for an amazing team (as seen in We3), and the two doing DC's homage to the Silver Age Superman is probably one of the best pairings DC could come up with.

 

[drastic_quench]

A year ago I never would've believed that I'd have three Superman books on my pull list and two Batman books. Two!?

 

[Green Lantern]

Frank Miller's done some great stuff. DKR, Sin City, Daredevil, Year One, all simply phenomenal stuff.

Morrison's done New X-Men, Skrull Kill Krew, JLA, Seven Soldiers, 52, and All-Star Superman. Sure, no one thing that Grant Morrison has done is equal to the Dark Knight Returns, but if you look at the overall body of work, Morrison is more consistently excellent than Frank Miller. Moreover, Quitely and Morrison make for an amazing team (as seen in We3), and the two doing DC's homage to the Silver Age Superman is probably one of the best pairings DC could come up with.

I disagree that none of Morrison's is as good as DKR... Arkham Asylum Serious House destroys DKR in my opinion.

 

[Assassin]

Issue #3 was garbage. Pointles, and bull **** art.

And i never thought i would see the day when Lackey agrees with me (another thread) and I agree with him here.

The end of the world is coming!

and thats what i said, thats how batman would talk to robin if he was trying to scare him straight, but dick is a smartass.

 

[Lackey]

And i never thought i would see the day when Lackey agrees with me (another thread) and I agree with him here.

uh-oh, what are we agreeing about? maybe I should change my mind

 

[KingOfDreams]

It's better. There's your answer.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Frank Miller's done some great stuff. DKR, Sin City, Daredevil, Year One, all simply phenomenal stuff.

Morrison's done New X-Men, Skrull Kill Krew, JLA, Seven Soldiers, 52, and All-Star Superman. Sure, no one thing that Grant Morrison has done is equal to the Dark Knight Returns, but if you look at the overall body of work, Morrison is more consistently excellent than Frank Miller. Moreover, Quitely and Morrison make for an amazing team (as seen in We3), and the two doing DC's homage to the Silver Age Superman is probably one of the best pairings DC could come up with.

You should also see Martha Washington Saves the World and 300. Both are great, severely underrated stories from Miller.

 

[The Sage]

All-Star Superman issue 3 was great. Quitely has some great panels.

 

[That-Guy]

While issue #3 od All-Star Supes seemed a little... off to me, I still enjoyed it. AS Supes is pretty much a new Pre-Crisis continuity for Superman, complete with all of the goofy aspects of pre-crisis DC, just with a more modern flair. AS Bats, in contrast, doesn't feel like pre- or post-crisis... it's just felt... wrong. Wrong in that this characterization of Batman and Gotham feels as if its written by a 12 year old kid who thinks regular Batman comics suck because "BATMMAN DONT KILL NOBUDDY!!!!111" As for the art, I personally feel Lee is a better artist than Quitely, but Lee's talents in ASB are completely wasted. Frank Miller should just have just drawn the series himself because he obviously thinks that Gotham is Basin City and Batman is Marv. Quitely, in contrast, isn't the best artist out there (at least not tecnhically... a lot of his characters appear distorted and ill-proportioned) but somehow his style fits the light-heartedness of AS.S.

 

[Pksoze]

he has put out better-regarded stuff in recent times but when one compares writers one tends to compare entire bodies of work. Franks Miller's body of work is up with the holy trinity of he, moore, and gaiman. You can put morrison in the holy...square.

No it isn't...

Moore has never written anything as bad as Batman/Spawn, All Star, or DKSA.

Miller has never written anything close to Miracleman.

Miller had a great run on Daredevil, did great work with Ronin, had some nice Batman stuff.

But after the 80's he became stuck in a pulpy rut. He could never approach Moore.

As for Gaiman Sandman is still better than anything Miller has ever done.

 

[Pksoze]

a handful of people on a message board versus thousands of sales


more people are buying AS Batman, it's as simple as that... so you have no argument of popularity. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

All Star Superman is still a top 5 seller.

Put Jim Lee on it and it could approach All Star Bats.

Batman & the Monster Men is not near ASB, but the Monster Men kicks its butt.

 

[Pksoze]

You should also see Martha Washington Saves the World and 300. Both are great, severely underrated stories from Miller.

I read them, you should read Atlas Shrugged instead from whom Miller shamelessly borrowed.