The Dark Knight Will TDK Show Off Batman's Detective Skills?

[ragdus]

lol

 

[turtlefocker]

 

[I am Batman]

Dude what does the suit have to do with Batman's detective skills?

Anyway I'd love to see Batman do some deducing like Ace Ventura. Check it out at http://youtube.com/watch?v=cGTlQD-JChs at 7:45-8:40

 

[Shoemeister]

World's greatest detective, IMO.

 

[thewhyteman]

Dude what does the suit have to do with Batman's detective skills?

Dunno man. But it sure is pretty damn sweet.

I think its level of awesome automatically allows it to be used in any argument.

For example:

PERSON 1: "I think the fact that Oprah is backing Obama will ensure him a large following."

PERSON 2: "I.... uhhh err yah,

"

PERSON 1: "Yeah good point"

PERSON 2: "Yeah."

 

[TNC9852002]

In the first movie, we definitely got the idea that he was getting a hang of everything, learning how to follow up on leads, putting the pieces together...I guess since then, he's had more experience and equipment, and I guess working with Gordon and with his own studies, I can expect more of these detective qualities to be shown like they've said.

-TNC

 

[Damiean Dark]

It isnt so much the actions of the actors to play the role imo. The aura of a hyper intelligent guy just didnt emanate from Bale for me he is smart sure but he didnt portray the bruce wayne buring intelligence on screen in a convincing and satisfying way. keatons intense brooding wayne showed a genius burning below the surface for me that was convincing especially when he sometimes seemed to talk to himself as he thought out a case you can almost see his brain sorting through the problem. Still for me the most convincing wayne not so much in looks but in the acting persona of a man driven to dress as a bat.

 

[redfirebird2008]

It isnt so much the actions of the actors to play the role imo. The aura of a hyper intelligent guy just didnt emanate from Bale for me he is smart sure but he didnt portray the bruce wayne buring intelligence on screen in a convincing and satisfying way. keatons intense brooding wayne showed a genius burning below the surface for me that was convincing especially when he sometimes seemed to talk to himself as he thought out a case you can almost see his brain sorting through the problem. Still for me the most convincing wayne not so much in looks but in the acting persona of a man driven to dress as a bat.

Bale owns Keaton as Bruce Wayne. Batman is a different story. I'd give the edge in that area to Keaton. But Wayne? It's not even close.

 

[TNC9852002]

lol. All of the real geniuses out there ironically, don't appear all that intelligent.

-TNC

 

[Bowl of Wrong]

B: "If so, the first step of your application process awaits...if you know where to look.......WHERE DO I LOOK?! ****!!"

I can see it now, Batman racing along in his Tumbler to get to the bakery in Midtown before it closes, then going into a petulant rage when the Joker only gives him a poster

 

[itsthebatman]

World's greatest detective, IMO.

That'd be great to see in a Batman film.
'So you see, Batman, I couldn't possibly have murdered him. Now be on your way.'
'If you say so, Dr. Strange, Ok'
*Batman shuffles away, then stops, raises his head, and turns around*
'One more thing....'

 

[vibeke_T]

Or.. maybe her character is nothing like Montoya's. Crazy idea, I know.

theres no way in heck they dont know about montoya ...so i'm betting its a diff character

 

[Magenta666]

I can see it now, Batman racing along in his Tumbler to get to the bakery in Midtown before it closes, then going into a petulant rage when the Joker only gives him a poster

 

[Sun_Down]

Wrong. In Batman Begins we saw him eavesdropping on conversations multiple times, using disguises such as a street vagabond, and using nightvision to observe where the toxins were going. And everyone else has this thread covered with other references and movie examples. You must be on crack.

Batman did nothing special in BB in terms of detective work, really. They tacked on some lines like the Gordon one about Batman delivering evidence, but you can't honestly say you walked away from that movie thinking, "Gee, they really portrayed Batman as a great detective". He did nothing more than any other action film hero. Seriously, go watch Rush Hour. Jackie Chan comes off as a better detective.

 

[FhFgJg]

well the thing is they portrayed batman in BB to be a very early batman..much like he was written in Year One. He makes mistakes...he's learning. It's jsut like when he's crying after his house blows up and he says "i've failed gotham". he is just a kid and he's trying to fight injustice. It takes time to develop into what he is. That's why i think he will be more comfortable in this one. I love how it develops the character slowly like that.

 

[turtlefocker]

'So you see, Batman, I couldn't possibly have murdered him. Now be on your way.'
'If you say so, Dr. Strange, Ok'
*Batman shuffles away, then stops, raises his head, and turns around*
'One more thing....'

 

[Anita18]

It isnt so much the actions of the actors to play the role imo. The aura of a hyper intelligent guy just didnt emanate from Bale for me he is smart sure but he didnt portray the bruce wayne buring intelligence on screen in a convincing and satisfying way.

Having a recently graduated from a competitive liberal arts college, I can tell you that you can't tell who the smartest people are. I had classmates who came off as ditzes, but they were absolutely brilliant. I was highly amused that my physics TA was a pretty blonde girl. She's at Oxford now, getting her PhD in astrophysics.

 

[Sandouras]

Bale owns Keaton as Bruce Wayne. Batman is a different story. I'd give the edge in that area to Keaton. But Wayne? It's not even close.

Keaton:
BW:
Brooding, brooding, brooding and.... nothing...
Hair falling
short and no muscles
not really a playboy
Batman:
poopy face
killer (blame it on burton)
didnt interrogate like bale did flass (again...burton)
walked in the alley while bale could give predator a run for his money
invulnerable to bullets and plane crashes

Bale:
BW:
Good Hair
Short
handsome, smart,
real playboy: pool stunt!!!!, two girls!, bought hotel, badass Lambo!
emotional where needed: we saw all his strife, his pain and anger
muscles
Batman:
moved like predator/monster.
took about 10 thugs down simultaneously.
louder, scarier voice
interrogation: 1000 points!
smart: escaping train
detective: overhearing and spying, even dressing like a "dude" and spying on Rachel
vulnerable

Again, some of these could be attributed to the director, or the evolution of ideas along the years. Ex: Nolan had to do new things with his batman and actually used some elements that werent used by burton. But then again, a movie batman is a combination of the director's directing and actor's acting. Especially the directing since acting is overshadowed by fighting and the cowl.

So need i tell you which one i prefer?

 

[wootbaby]

Batman did nothing special in BB in terms of detective work, really. They tacked on some lines like the Gordon one about Batman delivering evidence, but you can't honestly say you walked away from that movie thinking, "Gee, they really portrayed Batman as a great detective". He did nothing more than any other action film hero. Seriously, go watch Rush Hour. Jackie Chan comes off as a better detective.

did you even watch the movie?

 

[The Caped Knight]

"Drugs, prints, cargo manifests... This bat character gave us everything."
-Rachel
(Batman Begins)


It's not like he just found all that stuff under a rock, he had to go get it. That's detective work.

 

[JJ PLAYA 24]

Keaton:
BW:
Brooding, brooding, brooding and.... nothing...
Hair falling
short and no muscles
not really a playboy
Batman:
poopy face
killer (blame it on burton)
didnt interrogate like bale did flass (again...burton)
walked in the alley while bale could give predator a run for his money
invulnerable to bullets and plane crashes

Bale:
BW:
Good Hair
Short
handsome, smart,
real playboy: pool stunt!!!!, two girls!, bought hotel, badass Lambo!
emotional where needed: we saw all his strife, his pain and anger
muscles
Batman:
moved like predator/monster.
took about 10 thugs down simultaneously.
louder, scarier voice
interrogation: 1000 points!
smart: escaping train
detective: overhearing and spying, even dressing like a "dude" and spying on Rachel
vulnerable

Again, some of these could be attributed to the director, or the evolution of ideas along the years. Ex: Nolan had to do new things with his batman and actually used some elements that werent used by burton. But then again, a movie batman is a combination of the director's directing and actor's acting. Especially the directing since acting is overshadowed by fighting and the cowl.

So need i tell you which one i prefer?

agreed keaton was the **** in '89
but
now bale is the man

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I also thought he was supposed to be a master scientist too..and yet he didn't know what Lucius was talking about after he woke up. That didn't even occur to me until a while back

 

[The Caped Knight]

Bale:
BW:
Good Hair
Short
handsome, smart,
real playboy: pool stunt!!!!, two girls!, bought hotel, badass Lambo!
emotional where needed: we saw all his strife, his pain and anger
muscles
Batman:
moved like predator/monster.
took about 10 thugs down simultaneously.
louder, scarier voice
interrogation: 1000 points!
smart: escaping train
detective: overhearing and spying, even dressing like a "dude" and spying on Rachel
vulnerable

Again, some of these could be attributed to the director, or the evolution of ideas along the years. Ex: Nolan had to do new things with his batman and actually used some elements that werent used by burton. But then again, a movie batman is a combination of the director's directing and actor's acting. Especially the directing since acting is overshadowed by fighting and the cowl.

So need i tell you which one i prefer?

 

[Matt]

Mystery is a very hard formula to work into a movie like this. But none the less, the aspects of it are there. Bat's investigation on Falcone, while it was off screen, it happened. He pretty much made a case for the D.A.'s office. Unfortunately, while we may get tossed a bone...most of the meat simply has to be sacrificed to get practically every other aspect of the character perfect.

On a side note, I really think, one line that would've been awesome in Batman Begins was once Bruce figured out that Ducard was Ra's, if Ra's gave a sarcastic little "Very good, Detective."

 

[Hole Shot]

to my knowledge I've seen one sceen that hints at his detective skills and that is B89 where he works out the combination of chemicals made the joker virus, other than that nada.

You're confusing chemistry skills with detective work:

That scene in 89 is him handing Vicki Vale an envelope and saying what he did.

In Begins, he spends a lot his time investigating, interrogating and running surveillance.

I'd rather Batman do that and then punch someone in the face than watch him tool around the Batcave with a lab coat.