The Dark Knight Will TDK Show Off Batman's Detective Skills?

[JayTee]

Being a detective is unrealistic and doesn't fit into Nolan's world.

:-P

 

[perry normal]

As a Law and Order fan, I might be biased, but this is why I hate CSI. People get the idea in their head that if you're not using an ultra-violet light and other superfluous BS, you're not doing detective work. The definition of detective work is so incredibly wide. There's all different shades of it. Ace Ventura, Dick Tracy, Columbo, The Hardy Boys, Darkwing Duck, Lennie Briscoe and Batman are all detectives, just in different ways.

Here's the thing. The most important parts of detective work, in real life, are incredibly boring. Stuff like finding small inconsistencies in various files that don't add up. I like that Begins glossed over Batman taking pictures of Faden and getting cargo manifests and all that. I like knowing he did it, I don't need to see him do it.

That being said, I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the detective stuff in TDK. I was happy with the amount shown in Begins though.

 

[Matt]

I would really love to see an ongoing subplot throughout the movie of Batman using his detective skills to piece together parts of the Joker's life leading up to his arrival in Gotham, trying to figure out who he is, what makes him tick, etc. I doubt it'll happen, but it could be awesome.

 

[Hole Shot]

As a Law and Order fan, I might be biased, but this is why I hate CSI. People get the idea in their head that if you're not using an ultra-violet light and other superfluous BS, you're not doing detective work.

I don't watch Law & Order but can't stand CSI for the same reason. And the fact that every episode is exactly the same.

 

[Matt]

As a Law and Order fan, I might be biased, but this is why I hate CSI. People get the idea in their head that if you're not using an ultra-violet light and other superfluous BS, you're not doing detective work. The definition of detective work is so incredibly wide. There's all different shades of it. Ace Ventura, Dick Tracy, Columbo, The Hardy Boys, Darkwing Duck, Lennie Briscoe and Batman are all detectives, just in different ways.

Here's the thing. The most important parts of detective work, in real life, are incredibly boring. Stuff like finding small inconsistencies in various files that don't add up. I like that Begins glossed over Batman taking pictures of Faden and getting cargo manifests and all that. I like knowing he did it, I don't need to see him do it.

That being said, I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the detective stuff in TDK. I was happy with the amount shown in Begins though.

Great post...and welcome to the Hype

 

[perry normal]

Great post...and welcome to the Hype

Thanks. Glad to be here.

 

[TNC9852002]

Oh, and BTW, Christian Bale is like, 6'1". That's not "short" for any male on any continent on earth.

-TNC

 

[JoeCat]

are they going to even HINT at this in the new movie.
there have been 5 movies now and if I didn't read the comics I'd be none the wiser as to his genius.

no hint of his deductive reasoning
no hint of observational skills
no hint of his forensic skills
no gathering of clues

if there is ONE avenue I wish they'd explore for ONCE is the fact bats is supposed to put sherlock holmes to shame.

Pick up this month's issue of Wizard with the Joker on the cover. Christopher Nolan talks about getting right into it and showing the detective skills.

 

[Hole Shot]

Oh, and BTW, Christian Bale is like, 6'1". That's not "short" for any male on any continent on earth.

-TNC

At 6'1" he could play center or at least power forward if the SAG started a basketball team.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

Oh, and BTW, Christian Bale is like, 6'1". That's not "short" for any male on any continent on earth.

-TNC

thats actually pretty tall to us 5"9'ers...

 

[Sandouras]

Oh, and BTW, Christian Bale is like, 6'1". That's not "short" for any male on any continent on earth.

-TNC

Dude, he is short. Look at how he looked compared to Neeson (by your statement Neeson would be 2.5 metres) and i believe that dent and Fox are taller than him. Look at the scene where he walks in the party where Dent and Rachel are sitting. If he was as tall as you say, the table wouldnt have been at his waist.

 

[Sandouras]

Mystery is a very hard formula to work into a movie like this. But none the less, the aspects of it are there. Bat's investigation on Falcone, while it was off screen, it happened. He pretty much made a case for the D.A.'s office. Unfortunately, while we may get tossed a bone...most of the meat simply has to be sacrificed to get practically every other aspect of the character perfect.

On a side note, I really think, one line that would've been awesome in Batman Begins was once Bruce figured out that Ducard was Ra's, if Ra's gave a sarcastic little "Very good, Detective."

Too early for him to earn the reputation of the detective isnt it? I mean, he didnt even figure out that Rha's is Ducard. It was laid out in front of him really. But even if he did, you dont call someone a detective just because he figured you out.

Being a detective is unrealistic and doesn't fit into Nolan's world.

:-P

wrong. He did detective work and actually batman is all about detective work. If a director cant do that, then he better gtfo my batman!

 

[Capt Throbberson]

I also thought he was supposed to be a master scientist too..and yet he didn't know what Lucius was talking about after he woke up. That didn't even occur to me until a while back

I figured he was still playing dumb with Lucius when he said that.

 

[zelas]

Dude, he is short. Look at how he looked compared to Neeson (by your statement Neeson would be 2.5 metres) and i believe that dent and Fox are taller than him. Look at the scene where he walks in the party where Dent and Rachel are sitting. If he was as tall as you say, the table wouldnt have been at his waist.

well, is he 183cm or 185cm? anyway, he is not SHORT...and he will be taller wearing the batsuit,look at the shoes..

 

[Kargo Warrior]

Dude, he is short. Look at how he looked compared to Neeson (by your statement Neeson would be 2.5 metres) and i believe that dent and Fox are taller than him. Look at the scene where he walks in the party where Dent and Rachel are sitting. If he was as tall as you say, the table wouldnt have been at his waist.

Dude Bale is around 184,185 and in the comics Batman is portrayed as 188 cm(6'2)..Neesom is 6'4 so you cant judge Bale's height compared to him.

 

[ALP]

Great shot!

Dude, he is short. Look at how he looked compared to Neeson (by your statement Neeson would be 2.5 metres) and i believe that dent and Fox are taller than him. Look at the scene where he walks in the party where Dent and Rachel are sitting. If he was as tall as you say, the table wouldnt have been at his waist.

He isn't short. It's just that Neeson is very very tall.

 

[Sun_Down]

did you even watch the movie?

Did you? Because unless you were a Batman fan previously, you would not walk out theatre thinking that Batman was any sort of detective.

 

[Anita18]

He isn't short. It's just that Neeson is very very tall.

After watching BB, my mom commented that Christian was short as well, and I pointed out that it was because practically every male character in the movie, aside from Crane, is 6ft plus. Caine, Hauer, Freeman, Neeson, all of those guys are taller than 6ft. Even Katie Holmes is tall for a woman, she's 5'9".

It's all relative you know. Apparently Gotham has something in the water (aside from fear toxin) that makes people tall.

ETA: Heath is 6'1", so he should stand eye to eye with Bale. When he's not Joker-slouching, that is...

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Its not like we've never seen any detective work out of the better films.

 

[itsthebatman]

After watching BB, my mom commented that Christian was short as well, and I pointed out that it was because practically every male character in the movie, aside from Crane, is 6ft plus. Caine, Hauer, Freeman, Neeson, all of those guys are taller than 6ft. Even Katie Holmes is tall for a woman, she's 5'9".

It's all relative you know. Apparently Gotham has something in the water (aside from fear toxin) that makes people tall.

ETA: Heath is 6'1", so he should stand eye to eye with Bale. When he's not Joker-slouching, that is...

We need to surround Bale with midgets for the third instalment. Perhaps Peter Dinklage could play the Riddler?

 

[vibeke_T]

agreed keaton was the **** in '89
but
now bale is the man

true dat!

 

[Sandouras]

I am satisfied with the detetive work on BB. Rachel's line about him giving them everything says a lot. He followed clues, interrogated and spied. Now, some more things could be added, but if they turn this film into another CSI, then goddammit, imma gonna kill you people. One comic page
could fit hours of detective work but in a film they will have to spend a lot of time to satisfy you people, while the film becomes boring and goes to hell!
Batman did a lot of work in BB. THIS IS THE TRUTH. Now if you wanna be the fanboys who's head gets stuck to an idea and who then take things to their extremes, then go ahead, ask for more CSI in my Batman.

 

[Cyrusbales]

I think we'll end up with a straight forward action film again, rather than something more intricate and detective based.

 

[JStorm]

It doesn't take a smart man to realize that a crazed guy, that looks like a clown, is terrorizing the city, when there is a crazed guy, that looks like a clown, terrorizing the city.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

It doesn't take a smart man to realize that a crazed guy, that looks like a clown, is terrorizing the city, when there is a crazed guy, that looks like a clown, terrorizing the city.

Good point! I think initially Batman will have to do some investigating and detective work while the Joker is still making a name for himself--but when it all escalates, BAM! Gotham is going to hell in a hand basket! The only detective work Batman will be doing then may focus on helping Dent bring some of the other gangsta baddies to justice.