If only the big money guys felt that way...
I expect a new Batman film within the next five years. Seven years max. Much sooner if we're talking about a JL movie.
Yes, but even still, let's consider the biggest money guy on the block: Nolan, Thomas, and Michael Uslan. These three love the character and they have some pretty big roles in WB. So much so that they just might consider what
Bruce Malone is calling "quality over quantity." Nolan's already said how he feels his take on the character is best left out of any crossovers, and I can't tell you how much I agree with the guy on this. It isn't like Marvel Comics where every character is made by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, put into New York, and created with a purpose of crossovers and inter-connectivity. With DC you have characters who were created independent of each other, and each really belongs to their own separate genre, like Batman to crime-noir/detective stories, Superman to science-fantasy, Wonder Woman to mythology. Nolan's trilogy gets a lot of beef from fans and general audiences today for starting a "dark and gritty" trend, but Batman always
was dark and gritty to begin with; he already
was a realistic superhero (at least the most realistic when compared to others) by the simple fact that this was a character who didn't have superpowers -- we've all heard that "anyone can become Batman, that's why he's my favourite superhero etc." all
before Nolan made his movies. Next to Batman, a character like Wonder Woman or Superman just feels like they're out of place (or vice versa) since you're really shoe-horning a fantasy character into a noir world. It works, and it can be done, of course, but it'd be limiting the potential of exploring Batman's own genre to its fullest -- or the other character's for that matter. It works in comics, but when you're adapting something with so much history you don't want to go in and adapt the fanciful ones, you adapt the ones that ring truest with the character. Nolan's films are downright the most definitive Batman movies on film we've seen so far, and another reboot so soon would simply undo that.
For the character itself, not for a trilogy made by Christopher Nolan. He'd still retain his reputation even if there's a crappy Batman movie that's made, but the character and the franchise wouldn't be able to shoulder a bad movie this close to a successful trilogy when people will start getting the impression that only Nolan can make a successful Batman movie... and that'd be terrible for the character. It'd take him back to 1997. And that isn't an exaggeration. Remember the first beef that people threw out when Avengers was released at WB? No, not that
The Avengers was successful, but the buzz was that "WB wasted their opportunity because they didn't hire Joss Whedon for
Wonder Woman all those years ago." Team Marvel even joked about it at an interview (and i sorta agree) BUT NO that is NOT the case. It never was. Whedon's pitch for
Wonder Woman was crappy. It was written by someone who admitted that he "never got the character" who said that "Batman has it all: he has all those 'must-tell' graphic novels, but Wonder Woman doesn't" in other words here was a movie being written and directed by a guy who didn't respect the character and who was stubborn enough to not get a writer who did know. But you don't hear that about the director. He's moved on. The world knows that Whedon can do no wrong, like Nolan. His reputation stayed, what suffered was the character.
My point is, don't make a Batman reboot right away. Don't make another Batman movie period. Let the world savor this. Characters like Superman and Wonder Woman, and the Flash, even the Green Lantern are waiting to be adapted and if done with the same care and love as Nolan's films, they have the potential to be just big. It's obvious for Superman, and even for Green Lantern whose fan-base is up there as much as Batman's (the comic-readers at least).
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My point exactly. Same with TIH it was wasn't even an origin story and people still felt it was too soon as well.
If WB is smart they won't rush this one. The Dark Knight series for lack of a better comparison perhaps is pretty much the star wars trilogy of comic book films. It has had that big an impact. It will be hard to follow up this without some space.
WB should focus on the MOS series and maybe JL if that gets off the ground then when a good story presents itself come back to batman.
I think you've pretty much covered how I feel about this on all your posts. I agree with all of them. They should take their time and let it roll.
TASM was knocked because it wasn't exactly a stellar film to begin with, but does the same rule apply for
The Incredible Hulk? The way Ruffalo was embraced in
The Avengers would disagree with you, and it isn't exactly news that producers think that Spider-Man and Hulk are Marvel's Superman and Batman...
What WB needs is someone like Kevin Feige who respects the characters and is geared up for adaptation. Not Avi Arad who wants to see as many characters adapted as soon as possible. I think Nolan, Uslan, and even the Donners are good producers in this regard. Not, y'know, Greg Berlanti or those other guys at CW.