Wolverine sucks

[freemadison]

hahahahahahahahaha

i feel better now

 

[Not Jake]

it was the gorgon (a master swordsman, and martial artist with the mutant power to kill anyone he looked at, and could turn people into stone by lookin at them....where does marvel come up with this stuff).

Where did they get that idea from. Umm...oh yeah, GREEK MYTHOLOGY. You ******ED BABY.

 

[Galact-Gal]

And the Greek gorgons were female. Which is why it always bothered me that there was (& still is) a male Inhuman named Gorgon.

 

[BrolyKnight]

Where did they get that idea from. Umm...oh yeah, GREEK MYTHOLOGY. You ******ED BABY.

if u want to comment on my message fine i can accept that but the name calling...... come on, and u call me a baby.

 

[DACMAN]

So I'm way more heavy into comic books than my friends are save for one.(Though, that particular one wasn't there at the time.) So my friends and I get to playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and I one of them saids,"Yo, I want Wolverine." Then the other gets angry,"No I want to play as him"
So I but in,"Who cares, as long as I get Spiderman."
Thats when they just look at me. They pause and then after few moments respond,"Man, Spiderman sucks. Don't put that bumb on our team."
And I'm in shock. Spiderman being my favorite hero, I had to defend him.
"What!? How does Spiderman suck? He could kick Wolverines ass."

...That was the wrong thing to say around these three.
"What!!?? No one can beat Wolverine!! No one!!!"
"But Spiderman is stronger than him. He could knock him out." I say
"What!!! Wolverine would just slice that man no one can beat him!!"
It went on like that for awhile, then I respond"Okay, so no one can beat Wolverine." I say"What about Magneto"
They think for a second because they know I have them in a spot.
"Yeah but thats it."they repsond.
So I continue.
"Only Mags?! What about Juggernaut?"
"No"
"What?! Yes he could!!! Captain America could too."
"No"
"But I have a comic where Cap beats Wolverine. And one where Juggs beats him too. And Spiderman!!!"
"Who ever wrote that sucks as a writer."

These statements and outburst left me with one conclusion. My friends were Wolverine fanboys and probably think Wolverine can take on Galactus and win. They even stated that he can beat Thor.

This is the type of crap that causes Wolverine to win crossover fights with Lobo!!!!

And theres only one thing I blame for this, the media.Especially since my friends aren't heavy comic readers.
If Wolverines screen time in the xmen movies wasn't so long and ridiculous this breed of fanboy would never have been created. Even video games cartoons overhype this guy too much. The media needs to stop making Wolverine look like this invincible overlord and script him how he should be.
And the way he killed was written as killing Phoenix in X-3 is a prime example. Wolverine officially sucks to me and my friends are idiots.

Show them this fight. Wolverine can't even cut the HULK as long as he's mad enough.

And this...

To name a few right off bat.

 

[Mr. Green]

Well done Dacman!

 

[Not Jake]

if u want to comment on my message fine i can accept that but the name calling...... come on, and u call me a baby.

all i hear is goo goo ga ga i'm a ******ed baby

 

[Sloth7d]

Show them this fight. Wolverine can't even cut the HULK as long as he's mad enough.

And this...

To name a few right off bat.

Actually, I referrenced the wolverine and Hulk fight and lets just say.....
Denial is their best friend.

 

[Fading]

Show them this fight. Wolverine can't even cut the HULK as long as he's mad enough.

And this...

To name a few right off bat.

Don't get me wrong, not saying Wolverine can beat the Hulk or anything but those are bad examples. The first image you have is of their first encounter, but in a Hulk comic that was retconned to say Wolverine has been cutting him all along, he just heals so fast it looks like he hasn't been. That was actually said in a Hulk comic and is cannon now, Hulk, atleast now in cannon (not at the time), was indeed getting cut by Wolverine it's just his wounds were healing by the time Wolverine's claws left the Hulk's body.

The second pic is from the Ultimate comics, not 616 so therefore not cannon in our current discussion, only if this was an Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine discussion would it count. Not to count that that fights only 2 comics in at that point, so he obviously pulls himself together somehow and they fight on for 7 or so more issues, if they ever come out that is lol.

 

[Horrorfan]

I can't post pics but if I could I would post:


(a) The Peter David Hulk/Wolverine fight where wolverine goes ape**** and is left standing over the hulk in triumph, hulk on the floor with his guts all over the place

(b) the what if where wolverine pwns and kills hulk


and

(c) the fight between wolverine and hulk where wolverine is horseman death and has hulk scared and in a panic and is about to finish him for good before he stops himself

 

[wobbly]

I can't post pics but if I could I would post:


(a) The Peter David Hulk/Wolverine fight where wolverine goes ape**** and is left standing over the hulk in triumph, hulk on the floor with his guts all over the place

(b) the what if where wolverine pwns and kills hulk


and

(c) the fight between wolverine and hulk where wolverine is horseman death and has hulk scared and in a panic and is about to finish him for good before he stops himself

a) That was the Gray Hulk, a weaker and more vulnerable version. Not to mention it was that infamous issue that the idea of Wolverine cutting the hulk in the first fight (shown above) came to light, and that was indeed a 'ret-con' of the first order (seriously, are we to think Logan so stupid he cannot tell when his claws are penetrating an object or not?).

b) On shaky ground when thinking of 'What if's' as proof of anything, especially when the one you mention claimed Wolverine could kill the savage green hulk by repeatedly hacking at his throat, alluding to an alleged weakness the hulk has not exhibited before or since (he needs more time to heal from broken bones, everything else regenerates faster than Wolverine could ever boast...at least until recently...

Should also note there was a later 'What If?' where the the Gray hulk killed Wolverine, which just goes to show that those stories ain't ever to be considered canon.

c) Never saw that one, can you elaborate on what happened there?

 

[BrolyKnight]

a) That was the Gray Hulk, a weaker and more vulnerable version. Not to mention it was that infamous issue that the idea of Wolverine cutting the hulk in the first fight (shown above) came to light, and that was indeed a 'ret-con' of the first order (seriously, are we to think Logan so stupid he cannot tell when his claws are penetrating an object or not?).

b) On shaky ground when thinking of 'What if's' as proof of anything, especially when the one you mention claimed Wolverine could kill the savage green hulk by repeatedly hacking at his throat, alluding to an alleged weakness the hulk has not exhibited before or since (he needs more time to heal from broken bones, everything else regenerates faster than Wolverine could ever boast...at least until recently...

Should also note there was a later 'What If?' where the the Gray hulk killed Wolverine, which just goes to show that those stories ain't ever to be considered canon.

c) Never saw that one, can you elaborate on what happened there?

wolverine fights hulk as death in wolverine #145, im a wolvy fan and i admit he gets smashed around a bit, but manages to get slice the hulks throat and the hulk begins to panik but wolverine keeps cuttin at his throat but when he gets to the finishing slice he pauses for a moment and for a moment he u can tell wolverine was hesitant and in the time he paused the hulk healed and smashed wolverine one last time and walked away

 

[DACMAN]

Don't get me wrong, not saying Wolverine can beat the Hulk or anything but those are bad examples. The first image you have is of their first encounter, but in a Hulk comic that was retconned to say Wolverine has been cutting him all along, he just heals so fast it looks like he hasn't been. That was actually said in a Hulk comic and is cannon now, Hulk, atleast now in cannon (not at the time), was indeed getting cut by Wolverine it's just his wounds were healing by the time Wolverine's claws left the Hulk's body.

The second pic is from the Ultimate comics, not 616 so therefore not cannon in our current discussion, only if this was an Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine discussion would it count. Not to count that that fights only 2 comics in at that point, so he obviously pulls himself together somehow and they fight on for 7 or so more issues, if they ever come out that is lol.

It's been understood that the HULK's durability is connected to his anger. Just as his strength is. So Wolverine wasn't actually cutting him.

 

[DACMAN]

The second pic is from the Ultimate comics, not 616 so therefore not cannon in our current discussion, only if this was an Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine discussion would it count.

Well, whatever. HULK tears Wolverine in half. To me that's 'nuff said' no matter what universe it is...

 

[wobbly]

wolverine fights hulk as death in wolverine #145, im a wolvy fan and i admit he gets smashed around a bit, but manages to get slice the hulks throat and the hulk begins to panik but wolverine keeps cuttin at his throat but when he gets to the finishing slice he pauses for a moment and for a moment he u can tell wolverine was hesitant and in the time he paused the hulk healed and smashed wolverine one last time and walked away

Oh dear...Sounds like the writer didn't realise just how stupid that first 'What if' story was and took it to heart (seriously, this means that in theory any guy with an adamantium blade can kill the Hulk?...please...).
Also, was this the 'Professor' version of the Hulk or the savage 'Hulk smash' type? (I can believe the former might panic but the latter would just get angrier).

 

[Darthphere]

Well, whatever. HULK tears Wolverine in half. To me that's 'nuff said' no matter what universe it is...

Of course you would say that, and you'd be dead wrong.

 

[wobbly]

Of course you would say that, and you'd be dead wrong.

In theory the 616 Hulk could easilly do the same to Wolverine (hell, he is a lot stronger than the Ultimate Hulk so he could do a lot worse). The only situation where I'd say he couldn't is if 616 Logan's spine is somehow linked by adamantium tendrils or something. Otherwise, that tissue and cartilige is just as weak and easy to tear apart by the Hulks huge mitts as any of ours.

btw- I am a Wolverine fan myself (would easilly make my top 10 favourite comic book characters) I just don't like seeing him taken to extremes that have made him a borderline parody of what the character originally was.

Imo, the writers should never have ret-conned matters to enable him to hold his own in a fight against heavyweights like the Hulk, much less be portrayed as being able to even kill them.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Hulk could easily rip Wolverine apart. Even though Wolverine's bones are coated in Adamantium that doesn't mean the joints are too. If they were, Wolverine would be a living statue, with no means of moving AT ALL.

 

[DACMAN]

Hulk could easily rip Wolverine apart. Even though Wolverine's bones are coated in Adamantium that doesn't mean the joints are too. If they were, Wolverine would be a living statue, with no means of moving AT ALL.

 

[Warhammer]

I can't post pics but if I could I would post:


(a) The Peter David Hulk/Wolverine fight where wolverine goes ape**** and is left standing over the hulk in triumph, hulk on the floor with his guts all over the place

(b) the what if where wolverine pwns and kills hulk


and

(c) the fight between wolverine and hulk where wolverine is horseman death and has hulk scared and in a panic and is about to finish him for good before he stops himself

I definitely want to see those.
Looks like Hulk LOST in the first one and Hulk went out like a b**** in the third one.

 

[Warhammer]

a) That was the Gray Hulk, a weaker and more vulnerable version. Not to mention it was that infamous issue that the idea of Wolverine cutting the hulk in the first fight (shown above) came to light, and that was indeed a 'ret-con' of the first order (seriously, are we to think Logan so stupid he cannot tell when his claws are penetrating an object or not?).

b) On shaky ground when thinking of 'What if's' as proof of anything, especially when the one you mention claimed Wolverine could kill the savage green hulk by repeatedly hacking at his throat, alluding to an alleged weakness the hulk has not exhibited before or since (he needs more time to heal from broken bones, everything else regenerates faster than Wolverine could ever boast...at least until recently...

Should also note there was a later 'What If?' where the the Gray hulk killed Wolverine, which just goes to show that those stories ain't ever to be considered canon.

c) Never saw that one, can you elaborate on what happened there?

Dang.

 

[Phrostyphlame]

First of all the hulk will murder wolverine in an instant so ur friends are dumb and the hulk will beat spidey to nah but they do hype him up way too much when magneto can twist and turn wolverine till he can even move any more and then throw him into a volcano so there

 

[Zeu]

Hulk could easily rip Wolverine apart. Even though Wolverine's bones are coated in Adamantium that doesn't mean the joints are too. If they were, Wolverine would be a living statue, with no means of moving AT ALL.

Exactly.

Not only do the joints have to be flexible, but the adamantium itself can´t cover the surface of the bones completelly.

Why?
Because a bone has to be porous so that the blood (white and red cells) which is originated in the marrow (the soft and nutritive tissue inside the bone) can get out once fully formed.

 

[Darthphere]

In theory the 616 Hulk could easilly do the same to Wolverine (hell, he is a lot stronger than the Ultimate Hulk so he could do a lot worse). The only situation where I'd say he couldn't is if 616 Logan's spine is somehow linked by adamantium tendrils or something. Otherwise, that tissue and cartilige is just as weak and easy to tear apart by the Hulks huge mitts as any of ours.

btw- I am a Wolverine fan myself (would easilly make my top 10 favourite comic book characters) I just don't like seeing him taken to extremes that have made him a borderline parody of what the character originally was.

Imo, the writers should never have ret-conned matters to enable him to hold his own in a fight against heavyweights like the Hulk, much less be portrayed as being able to even kill them.

No doubt, but Ultimate Hulk and 616 Hulk are for lack of a better term, two different animals.

 

[unstoppable]

Why?
Because a bone has to be porous so that the blood (white and red cells) which is originated in the marrow (the soft and nutritive tissue inside the bone) can get out once fully formed.

his healin' factor allows him to cyrculate blood through his body that's why without it he'll die