Wolverine VS. Sentinel clip

[pt_photo_inc]

DAMN IT! it is 530 and i have yet to sleep WOBBLY!

 

[pt_photo_inc]

all i am saying is that there is two ways of directing this movie.


The SINGER way

and the

WHEDON way.... and this CLIP (mind you "CLIP") wreaks of JOSS!!!!!!!!

 

[wobbly]

I think whether there is an arm or not the scene is flawed because of this lack of an understanding as to where wolvie came from, it just doesnt seem right considering how far the head flew from

And its not something you need to look at over and over to spot either. On first to last veiwing Logan effectively popping out of nowhere is jarring and looks wrong.

Maybe they are gonna cgi Logan into the shot to show where he came from (either came down holding onto the back of the head or dropped only a little bit behind it) but as it is that shot doesn't work well at all.

 

[Darren Daring]

plot assumptions? an assumption that there is a sentinel in the DR room? that wolverine looks incredibly defiant to physics? the assumption that he looks like is being levitated over flying at force speeds?

those assumptions?

or the ones that say--- when you are an artist (like a director) you make sure you think about every aspect of your masterpiece. You know every shade on every edge of your canvas... you put your everything into it... or you dont make it at all?

No, that they aren't going to explain what a sentinel is or what it's doing there. Most of your other stuff are complaints about the clip, which I pretty much agree with, by the way, but the clip doesn't give us any reason to thin they won't be explained

 

[wobbly]

DAMN IT! it is 530 and i have yet to sleep WOBBLY!

Drink a shot of whiskey, put on some shopping channel on the tv and you'll be asleep in no time (Alcohol & shopping channels are the best cure for insomnia I've ever found)

 

[pt_photo_inc]

No, that they aren't going to explain what a sentinel is or what it's doing there. Most of your other stuff are complaints about the clip, which I pretty much agree with, by the way, but the clip doesn't give us any reason to thin they won't be explained

My money is on a solid bet that they COMPLETELY dont explain it and walk out of the danger room discussing STRATEOGY and weakness... not wierd giant robot.

 

[Darren Daring]

My money is on a solid bet that they COMPLETELY dont explain it and walk out of the danger room discussing STRATEOGY and weakness... not wierd giant robot.

Yeah, I gathered, but what I haven't pieced together is why you think this.

 

[Backdrifter]

my bad... just watched it again... THE WHOLE HEAD SPINS AROUND... where is logan on it? NO WHERE!!!!! Then BAM! there he is walking out from behind it. But i saw the whole head spin around... so does he teleport?

Imagine how awesome it would have been if Colossus threw Logan...and the camera follows Wolvy over his shoulder as he arcs up to the sentinal...Wolvy struggles to hang on. He get his footing on the shoulder. He goes to work in the neck hacking away and the sentinal begins to malfunction. It begins to fall forward and Logan hangs on for dear life. The sentinal falls chest first to the ground and hits hard with a slam that shakes the entire set. Logans body is thrown from the sentinal and he tumbles and rolls right up to his teammates. He is covered in cuts and blood. THAT sounds like an awesome action sequence to me. I agree with your points and applied them to the scene that we were given...minus the fact that you do not like Sentinal being there.

 

[Savage]

I think it was supposed to be kind of a throw away thing. Like "There, mission accomplished. Now will one of you make my dinner?"

 

[Mentok]

I also agree with Logans 'flight' looking too slow & straight: to go that straight he'd have to going a lot faster, but as is it does look exactly like what it is, rather average wirework.

Heh, last time I mentioned wirework I was called a trolling Superman fanboy and told to get the hell out of the X-Boards

 

[Backdrifter]

Heh, last time I mentioned wirework I was called a trolling Superman fanboy and told to get the hell out of the X-Boards

Critical analysis seems to be shunned around here.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Imagine how awesome it would have been if Colossus threw Logan...and the camera follows Wolvy over his shoulder as he arcs up to the sentinal...Wolvy struggles to hang on. He get his footing on the shoulder. He goes to work in the neck hacking away and the sentinal begins to malfunction. It begins to fall forward and Logan hangs on for dear life. The sentinal falls chest first to the ground and hits hard with a slam that shakes the entire set. Logans body is thrown from the sentinal and he tumbles and rolls right up to his teammates. He is covered in cuts and blood. THAT sounds like an awesome action sequence to me. I agree with your points and applied them to the scene that we were given...minus the fact that you do not like Sentinal being there.

i love you friend! that is what i am talking about. And he flies so fast that he grabs on too a cable on the sentinels neck and it almost comes unhindged with the amount of force from the throw! Like the wolverine STATUE of liberty scene.... BUT DONE BETTER.

love your insight. heck... i like it this way if wolvering moved faster... and you see him fall off the head and on to the ground

 

[Casius--J]

Ah man that was really cool, only complaint is i'd like to of seen some more of sentinel, like his body.

But all in all i was impressed!!

 

[Backdrifter]

i love you friend! that is what i am talking about. And he flies so fast that he grabs on too a cable on the sentinels neck and it almost comes unhindged with the amount of force from the throw! Like the wolverine STATUE of liberty scene.... BUT DONE BETTER.

love your insight. heck... i like it this way if wolvering moved faster... and you see him fall off the head and on to the ground

Thanks. I like that idea you added as well. That is my filmic mind at work.
Hopefully, if all goes as planned, I'll get to use it in the industry someday.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Critical analysis seems to be shunned around here.

well this is a fan based site... and unfortunately that means that there are people on here (SOME... DEF. NOT ALL) that will argue with you about the stupidest **** like they are 5 years old fighting over who gets to play with the new GI JOE toy first!

so when dealing with such dim witted opinions that cant see logic beyond "FANDOM" just use a lot of facts and create a solid arguement as possible. The only reason i commented on this at all was cause i was seeing an overflow of one sided sheep syndrom! And unfortunately the side that was winning has nothing to say but "yay! wolverine is awesome! and if you dont like him you are stupid". I swear the internet can lower even the oldest of men into the stupidest of children... then add in the "FAN FACTOR".

 

[Backdrifter]

well this is a fan based site... and unfortunately that means that there are people on here (SOME... DEF. NOT ALL) that will argue with you about the stupidest **** like they are 5 years old fighting over who gets to play with the new GI JOE toy first!

so when dealing with such dim witted opinions that cant see logic beyond "FANDOM" just use a lot of facts and create a solid arguement as possible. The only reason i commented on this at all was cause i was seeing an overflow of one sided sheep syndrom! And unfortunately the side that was winning has nothing to say but "yay! wolverine is awesome! and if you dont like him you are stupid". I swear the internet can lower even the oldest of men into the stupidest of children... then add in the "FAN FACTOR".

Yeah, I often feel the same way, but end up making posts where I let my emotions take control instead of contructing well organized arguemnts like you did so well. I need to work on that. But, I love your points about facts and so on. Very insightful stuff. I always love learning new ways of looking at filmmaking to add to my own personal philosophy in filmmaking. Thanks!

 

[Angamb]

None has made a version of the clip with a more epic/dramatic music? it would be nice...

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Yeah, I often feel the same way, but end up making posts where I let my emotions take control instead of contructing well organized arguemnts like you did so well. I need to work on that. But, I love your points about facts and so on. Very insightful stuff. I always love learning new ways of looking at filmmaking to add to my own personal philosophy in filmmaking. Thanks!

well (THIS IS MY ONLY OFFTOPIC POST I WILL MAKE)

but think about this. AGE of apocolypse... best selling marvel crossover. How you going to cinematically capture that?


easy: The animaters from REANIMATED "the renaisance" from the matrix. Start off with the camera spinning around Xavier. Add narrations behind it that are talking about HOW MUCH DOES ONE MANS LIFE MEAN? Yadda yadda... all of the sudden after a good amount of spinning and set up it zooms into xavier as he shatters like crystal and the next scene is bishop climbing over thousands of dead bodies.

why does it work? story line, script, animaters, MOOD all match... it is a team!


New wolverine movie they want to do. How is going to work?

easy: get the director of "lucky number slevin" or "running scared" to do the filming. Make it gritty. Wolverine is an animal. Set the director, the scripting, the filming and mood all in sync.

how do you make X3 work?

easy: you get a director that has done a dark action movie or has some kind of creditial for it. And this clip shows you the focus points of the director. There is dark story... with a campy, not well thought out action sequence. It just doesnt work. And i know it is hard. To get a director, screen writter, producer and actor all in line. But settling is worse then not making the movie from the get go.

I am a professional photographer. I do not put any of my shoots up for viewing that arent going to SALE my next shoot. I dont care if it is a pic of AUDIOSLAVE lead singer Chris Cornell.... or some hot Playboy.net model! if it isnt selling my next shoot... i dont put it out for viewing... i quietly discard it.

i think that is all i have for now

 

[Backdrifter]

well (THIS IS MY ONLY OFFTOPIC POST I WILL MAKE)

but think about this. AGE of apocolypse... best selling marvel crossover. How you going to cinematically capture that?


easy: The animaters from REANIMATED "the renaisance" from the matrix. Start off with the camera spinning around Xavier. Add narrations behind it that are talking about HOW MUCH DOES ONE MANS LIFE MEAN? Yadda yadda... all of the sudden after a good amount of spinning and set up it zooms into xavier as he shatters like crystal and the next scene is bishop climbing over thousands of dead bodies.

why does it work? story line, script, animaters, MOOD all match... it is a team!


New wolverine movie they want to do. How is going to work?

easy: get the director of "lucky number slevin" or "running scared" to do the filming. Make it gritty. Wolverine is an animal. Set the director, the scripting, the filming and mood all in sync.

how do you make X3 work?

easy: you get a director that has done a dark action movie or has some kind of creditial for it. And this clip shows you the focus points of the director. There is dark story... with a campy, not well thought out action sequence. It just doesnt work. And i know it is hard. To get a director, screen writter, producer and actor all in line. But settling is worse then not making the movie from the get go.

I am a professional photographer. I do not put any of my shoots up for viewing that arent going to SALE my next shoot. I dont care if it is a pic of AUDIOSLAVE lead singer Chris Cornell.... or some hot Playboy.net model! if it isnt selling my next shoot... i dont put it out for viewing... i quietly discard it.

i think that is all i have for now

Agreed

 

[Celestio]

And this clip shows you the focus points of the director. There is dark story... with a campy, not well thought out action sequence. It just doesnt work. And i know it is hard. To get a director, screen writter, producer and actor all in line. But settling is worse then not making the movie from the get go.

You've seen 58 seconds of the sequence and suddenly it's a bad action sequence? How do you know what the rest of the DR sequence will be like?

 

[Aiden]

We're still having this argument

*sigh*

 

[Celestio]

We're still having this argument

*sigh*

Tell me about it.

I think I'm gonna stop going in this thread.

 

[Kid.]

I won't beat the dead horse with details, but I just have to say I'm disappointed with this clip.

Also, I seen haven't any comments on the subject: was anyone else annoyed by the discrepancies between the sentinel's eyes towards the beginning and its eyes once Logan had severed the head? Call me crazy, but when a pair of large spotlights inexplicably become a pair of glowing red rectangles, well that's just bad film making. I also noticed that while the eyes are still spot lights, the distance between the two fluctuates, but now I'm just *****ing for *****ing's sake.

 

[Celestio]

I won't beat the dead horse with details, but I just have to say I'm disappointed with this clip.

Also, I seen haven't any comments on the subject: was anyone else annoyed by the discrepancies between the sentinel's eyes towards the beginning and its eyes once Logan had severed the head? Call me crazy, but when a pair of large spotlights become a pair of red rectangles, well that's just bad film making. I also noticed that while the eyes are still spot lights, the distance between the two fluctuates, but now I'm just *****ing for *****ing's sake.

1. The lights look closer together because they are shining straight at the camera.

2. The lights most likely come from the chest as oppose to the eyes. I think the eyes are for the red lasers we have seen in the trailers.

 

[FieryBalrog]

The whole Fastball/Sentinel takedown has an incredibly half-baked approach to it. Its definitely not a 200 million dollar budget being put to use there.