Wolverine VS. Sentinel clip

[Darren Daring]

Horrible attitude. Happy thought should be made as a result of good clips, not becuase you don't like it when people disagree with you.

 

[wobbly]

Well, it is wire work. He can't actually throw the guy, you know.

What...did we all go to bed and the graveyard shift came online to b***h some more about this clip??

It's a valid criticism: When the objective of the effect is to convince the audience he is being thrown at the Sentinel, and they fail in doing that when there's really no good excuse why they shouldn't, any complaint about it is fair enough.

 

[danoyse]

Horrible attitude. Happy thought should be made as a result of good clips, not becuase you don't like it when people disagree with you.

No, honestly, I just don't care.

 

[CGHulk]

All they have to do is add a CG Logan to the back of the head as it spins! but I think Rattner wanted the audience to be surprised with Logans reveal, but he forgot that alot of people are smart enough to notice he wasn't even on the head to begin with.

 

[StevieNicks1988]

So the laws of physics are throw out because it is a movie with some fantastical elements? THe trailer has even more examples of really bad wirework. There is no excuse for this when hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent.

These are COMIC BOOK MOVIES. Superman flies and can see through walls. Batman runs around with a little butt buddy named Robin and goes around in tight rubber suits while having one night stands with Catwoman. The Fantastic Four have amazing powers. Spider-Man and Venom with an alien what-ever you call it. James Bond and his endless list of girls, amazing gadgets, and luck of always surviving with hardly any bad injuries.

Laws of physics never matter. The only thing that matters is, if you watch these movies, COULD you see in your mind, them happening in real life? YES!!! They aren't trying to make these damn movies come off like real life documentaries or whatever. They are pure fun based on comics that have brought joy to millions of lives. While some fanboys might care, the other 95% of the people who see this won't give a damn as its JUST A MOVIE.

Like I said, the scene was over-edited for the purpose of a television talk show! It IS NOT the final product so stop acting like it is and the movie is doomed to the likes of Batman & Robin. JESUS, I just love how people jump the gun just to say a movie sucks based on 50 something seconds of a not even finished clip.

 

[danoyse]

It's a valid criticism: When the objective of the effect is to convince the audience he is being thrown at the Sentinel, and they fail in doing that when there's really no good excuse why they shouldn't, any complaint about it is fair enough.

If he ran around giving Wolverine a piggyback ride, I'd agree with you. But he threw him at the Sentinel!

::looks for Derek Jeter jersey and car keys:::

 

[danoyse]

All they have to do is add a CG Logan to the back of the head as it spins! but I think Rattner wanted the audience to be surprised with Logans reveal, but he forgot that we're all smart enough to notice he wasn't even on the head to begin with.

Then everyone would have been crying that the CG looked fake.

They can't win.

 

[Angamb]

we still hear the original music a little, but I like the second too. Could you make the new music louder? it would be better.

A good idea will be add the showest clip before this, more wit a new music, of course; this way some people will stop their negativity, seeing the whole sequence.

 

[StevieNicks1988]

It's a valid criticism: When the objective of the effect is to convince the audience he is being thrown at the Sentinel, and they fail in doing that when there's really no good excuse why they shouldn't, any complaint about it is fair enough.

Like Sabretooth flying through the air without going any higher or any lower, looking like he's sliding on his ass on invisible ice? Yeah, thats realism too! *sarcasm* Or Mystique sliding about on her legs in X2 or Deathstrike and Wolverine flying through the air together during their fight for over 15+ feet without hitting the ground first.

It's JUST a movie....

 

[wobbly]

If he ran around giving Wolverine a piggyback ride, I'd agree with you. But he threw him at the Sentinel!

::looks for Derek Jeter jersey and car keys:::

What's with the sarcastic rolleyes?

 

[danoyse]

What's with the sarcastic rolleyes?

I love sarcasm.

 

[Backdrifter]

These are COMIC BOOK MOVIES. Superman flies and can see through walls. Batman runs around with a little butt buddy named Robin and goes around in tight rubber suits while having one night stands with Catwoman. The Fantastic Four have amazing powers. Spider-Man and Venom with an alien what-ever you call it. James Bond and his endless list of girls, amazing gadgets, and luck of always surviving with hardly any bad injuries.

Laws of physics never matter. The only thing that matters is, if you watch these movies, COULD you see in your mind, them happening in real life? YES!!! They aren't trying to make these damn movies come off like real life documentaries or whatever. They are pure fun based on comics that have brought joy to millions of lives. While some fanboys might care, the other 95% of the people who see this won't give a damn as its JUST A MOVIE.

Like I said, the scene was over-edited for the purpose of a television talk show! It IS NOT the final product so stop acting like it is and the movie is doomed to the likes of Batman & Robin. JESUS, I just love how people jump the gun just to say a movie sucks based on 50 something seconds of a not even finished clip.

Lame excuses. Sorry. The scene would be 50x better if the laws of physics were obeyed.

 

[_BB_]

I can barely hear the music you added in the first and second clips

edit- i meant third not second lol

 

[danoyse]

Lame excuses. Sorry. The scene would be 50x better if the laws of physics were obeyed.

There are no explosions in space, either. The 'Star Wars' people have been getting away with that one for years.

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

1st and 3rd actually the 2nd one's more prominent!

 

[StevieNicks1988]

The point here is....

A lot of clips from X1 and X2 looked like crap. I saw clips of X1 and I got worried, but saw the movie and realized they were what they were; unfinished clips. Same with X2. Saw some crappy looking stuff. But saw the movie and realized they were what they were. Whats the difference here? Different director? Could be. But why? Why would this one clip be SO horrible yet everything else we've seen look SO good? Why? I know why. Because what we saw was closed to finished product, and if it wasn't, it was made to look like it. This clip however, was poorly edited for the sake of getting ooh's and ahh's from Jay Leno's viewing audience. Fight it all you want, but the cliop is edited and the point stands; that is NOT what we will see when we see X3 in theaters. Believe what-ever you want, but I stand by my point. Some people will deny just to be negative as they think this movie will suck ass. Some will not be certain. Some will agree with me. But PLEASE. For the sake of my sanity, STOP going on BELIEF and start going on FACT.

 

[Backdrifter]

There are no explosions in space, either. The 'Star Wars' people have been getting away with that one for years.

....what does star wars have to do with this series of X-Men movies?

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

Angamb do you have a link for the ShoWest footage so I can download this video?

 

[StevieNicks1988]

Lame excuses. Sorry. The scene would be 50x better if the laws of physics were obeyed.

The movie would also be 50x more boring if it had to follow all the rules. Mind you, this is a movie about people with super-human abilities. There-fore, all that crap does not apply.

"Oh, Storm can't fly because people can't fly. It doesn't go with laws of physics. Beast can't turn beasty and blue, it's not realistic enough and it'd never happen in real life!"

If thats your basis, then no comic books movies should ever be made as they wouldn't be 50x better.

 

[wobbly]

Like Sabretooth flying through the air without going any higher or any lower, looking like he's sliding on his ass on invisible ice? Yeah, thats realism too! *sarcasm* Or Mystique sliding about on her legs in X2 or Deathstrike and Wolverine flying through the air together during their fight for over 15+ feet without hitting the ground first.

It's JUST a movie....

Sure it's just a movie, but being sarcastic at criticism is a poor choice of how to deal with it. Bottom line is the complaint is valid wether you like it or not. Prior examples of dodgy effects doesn't exclude them from criticism this time round either btw.

Now does it ruin the movie? Hell no, and I'm not suggesting it does. For me it's just something I think they could have done better and I'm not gonna ignore that because others here may be more forgiving about such things and feel a need to resort to sarcasm to defend it.

 

[wobbly]

I love sarcasm.

I like it better when it's appropriate

 

[StevieNicks1988]

....what does star wars have to do with this series of X-Men movies?

Because with movies like this, not that many people give a damn about how the laws of physics and the things that happen in the movie would co-exist together. As I said, if thats your basis, then there shouldn't be any X-Men movies because God-forbid, people can control lightning and shoot beams out there eyes, yet you don't like it when someone doesn't fly right.

 

[Angamb]

there is a links thread here, I'll try to find it.

 

[ultimatefan]

Lame excuses. Sorry. The scene would be 50x better if the laws of physics were obeyed.

Newsflash for you, every comic book movie and comic book for that matter defies the laws of physics. That scene doesn´t do it anymore than any other movie of the genre.

 

[StevieNicks1988]

Newsflash for you, every comic book movie and comic book for that matter defies the laws of physics. That scene doesn´t do it anymore than any other movie of the genre.

Say like Spider-Man and Superman.