Wolverine VS. Sentinel clip

[Savage]

Yeah, that would make sense. Can't have the lights and lasers come out of the same spot.

Man am I hoping we see more though. I can just tell they cut out some good slashing action and maybe even a wideshot of the Sentinel itself.

Anyway, it looks like I have officially run out of things to talk about.

 

[Aiden]

I'm fed up with this thread. I'm outta here

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I think its too hard to judge from this one clip... You can tell from the flippant and casual/ cocky manner of logan that he isnt really taking it seriously (coz its just a hologram and such). We don't know the context it was in either... and lets be realistic, it was a clip shown on the tonight show... there are so many possibilities...

It could have been a very small part of the movie... IF fox and brett ratner have been so good at keeping things under wraps, y would they give away a Big Scene now? They obviously thought this scene was expendable...

Also, the brief clips they show on tv shows are always crappy quality...
I'm sure it would be quite different in a movie theatre... and imagine immediately after that scene, cyclops coming out and saying
"Logan!!! your not doing it properly! this is supposed to be a challenge for the kids!"
Logan: Well its too darn easy 'Cyclops'!

Then we can all sit back and go 'Woaaaah tension!!! alright!"

It could work... have faith my children

 

[StevieNicks1988]

EVERYONE READ THIS....

1) It's obvious the scene was CUT DOWN for the purpose of the talkshow. Wolverine's voice cuts off here and there. When Storm hits the side of the car beside Wolverine, the sound effects don't match up to the previous shot of her before. Right when we see the spotlights, it sounds as if the music glithces even more, slightly proving that something before that was cut out.
2) Wolverine's voice sounds like it was overdubed when he's slicing the Sentinel (in lamen's terms, that means that probably cut out him slashing the Sentinel to bits and just made it so you hear it, but don't see it)
3) The Sentinel's eyes are red. The spotlights were white. What does that tell us little boys and girls? That they obviously come from two different sources on the Sentinel. Gee......doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
4) This is probably not a finished clip. Why do I say that? They probably had this clip ready weeks ago, before it got its final touch of movie-magic, just for the purpose to use on talk shows. It's exactly what they want people to see. It's not perfect. It's just an action scene featuring Wolverine doing Wolverine type stuff and slashing up a robot.
5) As it's obvious the scene was cut down majorly, in the finished product we could still see a shot of Wolverine slashing the Sentinel (and showing it) and then jumping off and landing, then progress to show the X-Men standing as the head comes down, and Wolverine comes walking from behind it like he just got back from walking a toddler.
6) It's just a clip, so why would they show the Sentinel in full!! Why would they show it!? Thats like Famke going on a show and showing the fiery Phoenix fire-bird in action when it's supposed to be left for surprise!! Of course they'd take a lot of crap out as to not spoil it!


So, in finishing, to sum up a great line by Wolverine.... "Don't get yer panties in a bunch".

 

[Backdrifter]

You've seen 58 seconds of the sequence and suddenly it's a bad action sequence? How do you know what the rest of the DR sequence will be like?

He had a very detailed post as to why this is not a good action sequence. It is on the previous page. Check it out.

 

[Aiden]

EVERYONE READ THIS....

1) It's obvious the scene was CUT DOWN for the purpose of the talkshow. Wolverine's voice cuts off here and there. When Storm hits the side of the car beside Wolverine, the sound effects don't match up to the previous shot of her before. Right when we see the spotlights, it sounds as if the music glithces even more, slightly proving that something before that was cut out.
2) Wolverine's voice sounds like it was overdubed when he's slicing the Sentinel (in lamen's terms, that means that probably cut out him slashing the Sentinel to bits and just made it so you hear it, but don't see it)
3) The Sentinel's eyes are red. The spotlights were white. What does that tell us little boys and girls? That they obviously come from two different sources on the Sentinel. Gee......doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
4) This is probably not a finished clip. Why do I say that? They probably had this clip ready weeks ago, before it got its final touch of movie-magic, just for the purpose to use on talk shows. It's exactly what they want people to see. It's not perfect. It's just an action scene featuring Wolverine doing Wolverine type stuff and slashing up a robot.
5) As it's obvious the scene was cut down majorly, in the finished product we could still see a shot of Wolverine slashing the Sentinel (and showing it) and then jumping off and landing, then progress to show the X-Men standing as the head comes down, and Wolverine comes walking from behind it like he just got back from walking a toddler.
6) It's just a clip, so why would they show the Sentinel in full!! Why would they show it!? Thats like Famke going on a show and showing the fiery Phoenix fire-bird in action when it's supposed to be left for surprise!! Of course they'd take a lot of crap out as to not spoil it!


So, in finishing, to sum up a great line by Wolverine.... "Don't get yer panties in a bunch".

 

[Angamb]

for those who think the sequence will be bad: check out my video! and you'll see then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pzjvvxJ3Yo&search=danger room

 

[Backdrifter]

*sigh* I guess we will just have to wait...but I am sure this going to be the same case as what happened with Fantastic Four, most of the sane people knew it was going to suck and when it hit theaters it did. But, the FF4 fans would not face reality and stood behind it as "cheesy popcorn fun." Sorry, but I do not believe in movies who as me to invesnt emotional intrest in their characters and then clog up the screen with garabge. This will probably happen here too. I usually find it difficult to get on the Spider-Man boards because of the negativity there. But the overwhelming positivity here is nasueating...espeically when it is so apparent that this movie has some major flaws taking shape.

 

[Aiden]

Major flaws? How can you pick out major flaws during a 58 second clip?

 

[Backdrifter]

Major flaws? How can you pick out major flaws during a 58 second clip?

I direct you to this wonderful post, as I cannot put it any better myself.

all right... talked about this for about 2 days now with my girlfriend, we are big fans and have been buying every mag and reading every article and reading all these post every day! That being said, we would hope that our age group and our level of artistic snobbery would be the target audience for this movie...

but painstakingly it is seemingly not. There is something i think that alot of the people in this particular thread do NOT understand. It is a quote by Mark Twain... one of the best quotes of his ever. (IMO) "To write fiction you must first have a great understanding of fact" (or something to that extint). The reason i like that quote is because of how true it is. I call it the XXX vs. the MATRIX theory. In the matrix you have a lot of far fetched feats being performed. Freezing in air kicks, bullet dodging, running on walls... and as silly as those things were they were established in a realm of fact first, then presented.

Why could NEO fly? Run up walls? etc??? Cause he was part of a mental video game that he could control as long as he knew the moves and was strong with the force (HAHAHA)!!! Basically it was all explained first.

Now lets go to XXX or as i call it "the worse action movie of all time"! This movie completely ignored this lil fact. It wasnt suppose to be "real". So who cares, right? He can ride a motorcycle on a roof of a hay barn while a helicopter fires 180 (or so) cal. bullets into the hay and wood causing a NAPALM (sp? its late) EXPLOSION! Sure.... that makes sense! Why the hell not? Movie watchers dont like to think... they wont put together the massive holes in that.

Go back to HULK or to F4. Now i know that Avi Arad says that he thinks the HULK was a flop do to the "dark elements" and complexity of plot, and it wasnt enough of a "POP CORN FLICK, which is what hulk fans want to see", but that was not it at all. The reason hulk flopped is cause they FRACKED up the "popcorn"! The movies depth, and complexities were awesome! What was missing was the FACT BEHIND THE FICTION in the POPCORN scenes. Think about it... what about him and his dad would make FACE IMPRINTS IN CLOUDS? Where is the backing for that? Or for the stupid animals? What about F4? Great depth... character development etc... what did it flop on? The "Popcorn" scenes. The mindless fights. The fight between fantastic and the thing was more interesting then that of the team and doom!

Marvel is ****ing this up big... hollywood is in general with all the movies about superheroes. (except spiderman) They seem to think the "Movies arent made to be taken seriously... so why bother?" And they get away with it from reasons like the average ticket buyer. Those that say "Triple X was awesome! And i loved FAST AND THE FURIOUS!" LOTR had a big chance to flop... do did MATRIX so did X2. But those movies all had something in common.... I respect for science in the fictional fighting scenes. That is what made bryan singer so freaking amazing. His realism approach to the most ridiculously hard stories to keep real. But he saw... "focus on evolution and you have a means of truth, then go to how the world will react and make sure you capture that. Then make sure the fights look real! Grab the audience." Hence we get the white house reaction to an INTRUDER (best cinematic scene of all time if you dont count the NO CUTS SCENE of the hammer fight in OLDBOY) Hence you got the COP SHOOTING LOGAN, the kids getting attacked that the mansion. You have all these elements that made sense.

You know what doesnt make sense? A sentinel in the danger room.

You know what doesnt make sense? Logan being thrown slowly and straight

You know what doesnt make sense? A sentinel head falling 100 feet and logan holding on to it, no problem and out of site, only to hit the ground and walk out from around it perfectly standing rightward shaking his hands. (he should have had some legs in the air as he held on for dear life as the head fell off. And then he should have fell on his ass once the head hit the ground... and it should never had been a sentinel)

you know what else doesnt make sense? 220 million dollar movie and we havent seen **** on it yet that validates the cost. NOTHING.

I am not saying that brett ratner wont build character depth... or he wont make a watchable movie... i am saying the battles (which this movie is seemingly one giant battle) are going to be campy as hell.

and this is sooo hard for me to say. cause i hate negativity, and i love my xmen. but unless this is the only STUPID clip in the whole movie.... then i feel that fox just took bets on people like us going to see this movie REGUARDLESS, so what was the point.

sorry guys.


flame on.

 

[boywonder13]

agreed! Wolverine came out of nowhwere from behind the Sentinel....im not saying the movie is gonna suck because of that, I am saying...WTH!!!

 

[Backdrifter]

agreed! Wolverine came out of nowhwere from behind the Sentinel....im not saying the movie is gonna suck because of that, I am saying...WTH!!!

It is a good indicator as to how this director thinks. Thus, an indication as to what the rest of the movie is going to be like.

 

[god/devil]

Heres my opinion...

The good:
1. Storm
2. The rolo relationship
3. Wolverine

The not so great:
1. sentinal, it should never be in a movie in the first place.
2. The ending.

 

[Aiden]

A point about things making sense and grounded in realism. We are talking about a movie where a guy has wings and a man is blue and is covered in fur. Why all of a sudden, after the amazing trailers, and everyone watches this obviously unfinished clip, is the movie, the director, the actors, the writers, almost everyone involved in the production being slammed? It was unfinished and poorly cut together. It doesn't deserve the bashing it's getting and we can't judge the rest of this movie on 58 seconds. And how will the battles be campy as hell?

 

[Backdrifter]

A point about things making sense and grounded in realism. We are talking about a movie where a guy has wings and a man is blue and is covered in fur. Why all of a sudden, after the amazing trailers, and everyone watches this obviously unfinished clip, is the movie, the director, the actors, the writers, almost everyone involved in the production being slammed? It was unfinished and poorly cut together. It doesn't deserve the bashing it's getting and we can't judge the rest of this movie on 58 seconds. And how will the battles be campy as hell?

So the laws of physics are throw out because it is a movie with some fantastical elements? THe trailer has even more examples of really bad wirework. There is no excuse for this when hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent.

 

[Weadazoid]

THe CGI on that clip was not compleate, we still don't have quite a bit of what we saw in the trailer...

Woverine probubly rides the head down on decent and then appears...or perhaps sumps off the sentinal head and lands next to it


Hugh himself promised the action would be amazing... I still belevie him

 

[Aiden]

Simon Crane worked on the wirework. He's one of the best in the business. It will all be sorted out. I have no doubt

 

[wobbly]

Major flaws? How can you pick out major flaws during a 58 second clip?

There are two flaws that stand out regardless of how the scene was edited for the talk show: Wolverine's rather fake looking flight and his appearing as if by magic from behind the Sentinel's severed head.

Other complaints seen in this thread, such as dialogue, performance and so on are subjective and I agree it's harsh to judge the film as a whole on such a short clip, but those two complaints are fair enough.

 

[Darren Daring]

I hate to break it to you, Wead, but Hugh just said that to get you in the theatre,.

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

Hey guys,

I've made three variations on the recently released clip. All 3 clips have different music which I think add more drama to the scene rather than the generic score which was played with the original clip, it now seems more like a 'DANGER room' rather than the X-men's giant playpen lol! My personal favourite is the second one with the 'Storm's Perfect Storm' track from X2 as the timing fits perfectly especially with the fastball special moment so if you could please give some feedback on these, that would be great :

Click here to watch x3clip1

Click here to watch x3clip2

Click here to watch x3clip3

 

[danoyse]

I think he needs to be moving faster. My eyes do not believe he is actually flying through the air as the result of being thrown. Looks more like wire work

Well, it is wire work. He can't actually throw the guy, you know.

What...did we all go to bed and the graveyard shift came online to b***h some more about this clip??

 

[Darren Daring]

They tried, but more people came on to defend it mindlessly.

 

[danoyse]

Well then I'm SO glad I have tickets to the Yankee game this afternoon. I think I can handle 55,000 people screaming obscenites at Alex Rodriguez then hear anything else about this clip.

Happy thoughts, people...happy thoughts!!!

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

Hey guys,

I've made three variations on the recently released clip. All 3 clips have different music which I think add more drama to the scene rather than the generic score which was played with the original clip, it now seems more like a 'DANGER room' rather than the X-men's giant playpen lol! My personal favourite is the second one with the 'Storm's Perfect Storm' track from X2 as the timing fits perfectly especially with the fastball special moment so if you could please give some feedback on these, that would be great :

Click here to watch x3clip1

Click here to watch x3clip2

Click here to watch x3clip3

 

[sky_boy_16]

Oh lord, I really hope Rogue isn't just running around the danger room. Please let her do something. This clip isn't very promising...