BvS Writers Workshop: Pen Your Own BvS Ideas

Very good Rod, i'm still reading bro. Looking forward to reading more of your Clark/Superman dialogue.

 

Cheers my friend!
It's been a trial, but I haven't given up

 

A piece of the original idea I had for the ending. I never got round to completing it, but this is what would've and might still appear in my new script. This is the scene where Superman appears to Lex and has revealed to him the entire scheme of Lex's. It was all about increasing Lexcorp's power and rising dominance over the world.
And the thing that Lex wants in the last bit of dialogue, that the Russian's promised him, is the old relic remains of Brainiac that the Russians have had in their possession for over 50 years

SUPERMAN
Do you realise how close
you came to killing billions
of people?

LEX
Not as close as you think.

SUPERMAN
What?

LEX
The Russians were never serious
about their threats. Everything
was just a grand performance.
I wrote a script for them to execute,
and they did it very well.

SUPERMAN
I don't understand. What are
you talking about?

LEX
The submarine's destruction,
the cries of another world war,
children of the Motherland attacking America in outrage...Russia was in on the
entire scheme.

SUPERMAN
To get their hands on the US's
technology.

Lex claps his hands, slowly and sarcastically.

LEX
Bingo. Cause an international
incident, blame it on you,
'America's Superhuman Super Weapon",
pile on the pressure for the US
with threats of a new world war,
and top it off with random acts of
violence to increase their sweat. It was genius. And it was all my idea. But,
just for the record, them wanting you
dead, wasn't my idea. They just thought
it would solve the issue of you one day
potentially becoming a threat to them. I was pretty shocked how quickly our country turned on you, after all you've done for us.

SUPERMAN
Did Russia plot to have those
men killed, too?!

LEX
Of course not. And nobody died.
While you were busy tackling with
the warhead, there was another
vessel waiting for them. They were
busy sipping champagne by the time
you got back there. I told you,
it was all just a performance.

SUPERMAN
Why would you do this?
What madness motivated you?

LEX
It wasn't madness. Or, maybe it was?
All I know, that it was a desire.
A desire to see how much I could
change this world. Give it a much needed
facelift. It's unfortunate you and I see things differently. You see the world and wish to preserve it the way it is. The way it would always be, if not for the men who possess minds like mine. Those who possess a desire, and those who pursue their dreams.
We're the men of tomorrow. We are
needed to usher this world into a new generation. And with my company, I shall do this. With the wheels turning, Lexcorp
will soon increase in its size and influence, spanning across every corner of every
country. Look at what I did and
how I got away with it. Imagine what else I could do. Rewarded for my brilliance.

SUPERMAN
The world isn't yours to control!

Lex leans back in his seat and kicks his feet up on the desk.

LEX
It is now.

SUPERMAN
Not if I stop you.

LEX
You can't. You have no proof
of the things I've admitted to.
And you best show a bit of gratitude.
I arranged for your vindication. To be
honest, that was more difficult than
arranging your guilt. The Russians
weren't too happy about it, but I
smoothed it all out.

SUPERMAN
Why do that for me?

Lex sits up. He takes a can of Red Bull from his desk, opens it, and takes a sip.

LEX
So, I could look you in the
eye, the great and mighty, Superman,
and tell you that I'm top dog.
I played you like a game of chess.
I can **** your life up in any way I wish
and there is nothing you can do to stop me. So, I offer you a proposal.

Superman folds his arms, angry, but contained.

LEX (CONT'D)
Work for me. Do as I say,
and I guarantee we'll make history.
We can change this world, improve it for the better. You may not agree with my methods, but I promise you, with your assistance, we can save this world, from itself. So, what do you say?

Superman charges, at superspeed, towards Lex's desk, causing it to flip backwards, scattering and smashing everything. Lex topples to the floor, grazing his head. Superman steps over him. Lex looks up.

SUPERMAN
Go to hell, Luthor.

MERCY (O.S)
Mr. Luthor?!

Lex looks at his office door as Mercy kicks it in. He looks back up at Superman. Superman is gone. The door breaks down. Mercy enters, armed with a pistol.

MERCY (CONT'D)
Mr. Luthor, are you alright?!

She goes to help Lex up. Lex swipes her hand away and climbs to his feet.

MERCY (CONT'D)
Lex?

Lex walks to the open window. He looks up at the sky. He turns to face Mercy.

LEX
Get the Russians on the phone.
I want what I was promised.

MERCY
What about the alien, sir?

LEX
I'll deal with him later.
(Wipes blood from head. Look at it)
He won't
do this to me and get away with it.​

 

Very nice!

You did another fine job with this Rodrigo.

It doesn't have such a strong atmosphere like those two scenes in previous page, but I really like the dialogue here (it reads better) and the way you depicted Luthor.

 

Thanks, Wolfy!

I know, it doesn't have a strong as atmosphere. I was trying to go for the feeling of the Batman and Joker interrogation scene, you know? Hero and villain finally going mono e mono
But I think a few tweaks here and there will give it a better effect.
What I wanted to do originally, which I thought went on a bit too long, was to delve into Lex's main motivation - which was to obtain Brainiac's head from the Russians. Lex explaining via the data and readings originally founded, before Brainiac went offline during the 50's, at how much knowledge the data within the head contains. This was to include holographic projections featuring data and algorithms spread around Lex's office, things that only he could decrypt and decipher, spanning from distant worlds and galaxies.
It was to begin with this and then end up in the heated discussion. I wanted to make it akin to the scene in MOS where Jor-El explains everything to Clark in the ship via the nanobots. Except here, you get a taste of Lex's sci fi and mad scientist world, giving it an almost jarring and insane vibe, before it finally ceases and Lex's manic side dissappears, bringing him back to the ruthless businessman/schemer persona.
I'll write it out later and post it, I think it'll be better than this one

 

Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it.

I really like the characterization of Lex here. He seems smug, but it's not over-the-top. And also leaves an impression of genuinely driven and unscrupulous person. He feels like a real character.

And of course, atmosphere shouldn't be so thick here, as the scene primarily consists of what is basically an explanatory monologue. It has more to do with obtaining the audience (and the character within the story) with information than creating the atmosphere, so it's all cool.

 

I love all the ideas culminating here, most of this stuff is great movie material and I like how Lex Luthor is established here.

Any Aquaman, Cyborg, Green Arrow and Black Canary ideas?

 

I think the idea of Aquaman within the new movie is to unite the Justice League together. Superman was to do that in the comics, but he was aware of those other beings, unlike this movie.

Personally, with what I have in mind, which follows the plot of the conflict between the US and Russia, is that Aquaman and Wonder Woman have already teamed up prior to the events of BvS. Themyscira and Atlantis, which have been at loggerheads for centuries finally band together when they discover that an ancient, alien sea creature (Starro) is finally about to awaken from years of slumber, caused by the interference of Darkseid

Cyborg is "purchased" by Lexcorp in what I'm writing. After an accident when he was younger, Victor Stone was left with mental difficulties. He also lost several of his limbs, rendering him completely immobile. His parents, both being head scientists for STAR Labs, used him as a guinea pig. Using unethical treatment in a new form of scientific therapy, repairing Victor's damaged brain through the usage of a mutated strain of stem cells, Victor's mental strength, his IQ, and willpower, increased at an alarming rate. Following Elinore Stone's death, and his personal profits decreasing, as well as his health, Silas Stone attempts to approach the government to take over his research for his son, but is first approached by a fellow scientist who began working for Lexcorp. Warned of the consequences of his actions if he were to share his work with the government, Silas agrees to a deal with Lexcorp - sell his research and his son to the company, with the promise that Lex will personally give Victor a chance at living a normal life again.
Silas dies, and Victor is again used as a guinea pig, and not only that, but Lex's tool in creating a new kind of world. Between the events of MOS and BvS, Victor is used as an experiment in cybernetics. Following Victor, under Lex's control, going AWOL, Lex resorts to another and unsuspecting subject. A man who lost his legs during Zod's attack in MOS. A man who also lost his family and harbours a burning hatred towards Superman - John Corben.

Green Arrow and Black Canary? I'll need to think about their film characterizations, but I'll think of something for them!

 

Man, Rodrigo has dialogue down to a science. Bravo, sir!

 

It makes my brain hurt man

With Victor, what with his IQ and willpower being to the maximum, along with his strong sense of hope and morality being kept intact, despite Lex's tampering, his humanity remains.

Whereas John, who is filled with bitterness, anger and hatred, as well as not receiving the treatment Victor did during his therapy, becomes mentally unstable and murderous. He can't handle his mental and physical anguish. His lack of physical feeling, which was at first just his legs, drives him insane. Along with Lex attempting to erase the memories of his family, John just becomes even more murderous and embittered.

You have to remember these little details, because if not, you'll mess up

 

I can give you something.

Like Batman, Oliver Queen and Dinah Laurel Lance are seasoned crime fighters too, since all three of them know each other and have had team ups together in the past.

 

In this thread context;

Holly Hunter - Senator Samantha Wilkins
Tao Okamoto - Mercy Graves
Jena Malone - Barbara Gordon

Just my guesses.

 

Yeah, it's better to have most of these characters already established.

If I had to envision Green Arrow for a movie, I would make some changes from what we currently see in Arrow. Just like Bruce is to be influenced by Zorro in BvS, Oliver had a great love for Robin Hood. He would be inspired by the tales and movies of seeing his outlaw idol fighting against the corruption of the higher powers, their greed and hypocrisy, taking their money and giving it to the most needy - all the while, doing it, with a weapon that Oliver became obsessed by; the bow and arrow.
Soon enough, Oliver had purchased for him, a bow and arrow, and a tutor to teach.

Oliver's parents would have been killed when he was younger on a safari trip in Africa. He could have saved them if he had killed the Lioness that was on her hunt, but failed to do so, as his bravery, courage, and archery skills, simply weren't up to the task. Oliver would be raised in the care of his uncle, a man who did not share the passion and the charitable traits of the boy's parents. Often manipulative and corrupting after taking over Queen Industries. His ideals, hopes and beliefs dying before him, and blaming himself for his parents' deaths, coming to lose his admiration for Robin Hood, and his love of archery, Oliver soon changed from the light hearted and optimistic boy, into an unruly, depressive, womanising, gambling, alcoholic, drug dependent young man.

Then, once he becomes stranded on the island, he goes through that dangerous metamorphosis and rediscovery of self. Now this is the psychological aspect that I've been exploring - pure isolation. Is it a positive thing to experience, or negative? In Oliver's case, it's definitely positive AND negative. The initial fear of being stranded until you die, it's pretty bad. But just imagine you're a guy like Oliver; completely self-destructive and placed within an environment where there is potentially zero hope of surviving past the first week. The survival instinct will kick in at some point, but Oliver is a young man who has literally given up on life anyway. Coping with his anger, guilt and self-hatred, the lack of hope for a brighter future, he'd be surviving based just on natural, raw instinct. Combined with that psychology, other factors would be sure to kick in, especially his slowly decreasing humanity. Decreasing, but never lost. The lack of communication and interaction with other people, preserving his own self character on a day to day basis, will revert him to a more primal form. Eventually, in between and after his new animalstic nature, his mind will begin to wonder and present him with questions on who he once was and how he found himself in his situation. Meditating will help Oliver reflect on all his life, focusing mainly on the positives, creating a hope that he may put a right to all the negatives. Soon enough, this hope, becomes his main reason of survival. All of this journey of rediscovery gets put to the test when Oliver discovers a drug ring brought to the island. Seeking to only escape by boat at first, his new nature, combined with everything else he has constantly thought about on the island, kicks into play...He hunts and kills the criminals, using the make shift bow and arrow he was forced to create in order to survive, drives the boat filled with drugs back to the mainland, delivering them to the authorities, and steals the cases filled with drug money, leaving it a hospital as a donation.

It does sound pretty dark to say he kills the criminals, but I believe it to be fitting, considering his isolation on the island, combined with his other psychology factors

To make him light wouldn't be fitting with the DCFU. If anything, I'd make him darker than what he is in Arrow. In that show, he has the conflict over killing, or did. Whereas here, he doesn't. His journey and time on the island gives him the 50-50 balance of light and dark, human and animal, hero and outlaw.

 

I like that idea about Green Arrow, it's something I might write in my own fanfic, as an origin flashback chapter.

Oliver having two facets of his character is awesome, being the dark and survival instinct traits, when he is Green Arrow and being left wing activist Oliver Queen.

I'd like to see something for Amanda Waller, Lex Luthor and Holly Hunter's senator character.

 

I will certainly give it a read

Lex will have become a special advisor to DARPA, developing their technology, defensive and offensive devices for the US military, and public products for his company, using alien technology.
Holly's character will be someone who regularly checks up on Lex's work, often reporting back to the Secretary of Defense. But soon enough, she stumbles on the more illegal side of Lexcorp and its activities. She's murdered to keep the silence, her death being to made to look like a car accident.
Amanda Waller, however, will become aware of her murder, prompting her to blackmail Lex for his assistance in Checkmate.

 

I'm searching through the forums for a couple of scenes I wrote several months ago....

 

21 Justice Street

Batman and Superman are undercover cops who are sent back to high school to sniff out a drug ring by their boss Perry White. The only problem is the drug is actually kyptonite and the dealer turns out to be Lex Luthor. As the two try to learn to work with each other they soon realize just how different they are. A series of crazy and hilarious high-jinks ensue when they get their fake identities mixed up and Batman falls in love with the popular girl in the school (Wonder Woman). As Batman tries to get closer to Lex and his operation, he finds himself more and more drawn to Wonder Woman and falls in with the popular crowd.

Meanwhile Superman, with the help of two unlikely friends (Aquaman and Cyborg) discover that Lex isn't the master mind behind the drug ring. Turns out an alien drug lord (Darkseid) is the one running things and looking to expand his operation on a global level.

It all comes down to prom night where Superman and Batman have to team up and take down Lex and Darkseid before they successfully supply the entire world with kryptonite.

 

Hahaha....I'm stupid. They're on the previous page of this thread.

 

If anyone's interested I'm writing a DCCU set Fanfic trilogy centred around my DC original character Raven Joyner, who takes the mantle of Charmcaster.

I'm going to use bits of Greek mythology and research a lot of stuff on Wicca for this trilogy.

It's going to be a trilogy of stories.

The first story Charmcaster will be Raven's origin and an exploration into the world of witchcraft and serious magic. (Work In Progess)

The second story Nightshade will be introducing Raven, alongside other heroes in the BVS context of how heroes are being revealed to the world and how people react to people with abilities.

The third doesn't have a title, but it will be a Justice League story that might happen, if I get time to do it. I'm still thiof a villian to use, since I'm still planning it.

It's one of the Fanfics I'm passionate about doing, since I've taken a break from my Avengers Fanfics.

 

I love most of the ideas thrown around here, it's getting me interested of the story that will play out in this movie.

 

Here's my idea of the final scene and first JL meeting between Batman and Superman.

~~~Interior Wayne Manor. Camera pans through walls into the Batcave where we see Batman and Superman.~~~

*Batman and Superman are sitting at large table with 7 seats.*

*Batman is in full bandages on his upperbody and forehead. His lower body suite and gloves are still on.*

*Superman is in a new suite. The suite resembles the New 52 look, brighter blue/red with a kryptonian armor "S" plate...*


Superman: Not a bad set up you have here Bruce. Very dark and creepy, especially the T-REX. Suits you perfect.

Batman: It'll do for now. I have everything we need here and can supply anything.

*FADE TO BLACK*

Superman: *Voice Over* What about Diana?

~~~Exterior Themyscira. WW returning home hugging sisters~~~

Batman: *Voice over* She agreed. On the condition she goes home whenever she needs to. Just like Aurthor.

~~~Fade to ocean. Camera dives into ocean straight down to the depths of the where it fades to black. Only to see a faint glowing shimmering light...of a city. Our first glimpse of Atlantis.~~~

Superman: *Voice Over* We'll help protect Atlantis and Themyscira. Just like they have Earth for years. We'll need more help obviously.

~~~Fade to Batman~~~

Batman: I already found someone.

Superman: Ray?

Batman: His father could only do so much at Star Labs. I can build a better suite and replace his last lung with artificial.

Superman: Perfect for underwater. Looks like you've been busy lately.
Bruce, I'm only going to say this once. I know you have a fail safe for me and probably everyone else on the planet. If we bring in others, you'll need to trust us. All of us.

Batman: ........ *No face expression*

*Batman slowly stands in pain. Takes off his right glove and extends his hand out.*

*Superman slowly stands with a gratitude expression on his face and extends his right hand also.*

~~~Last image is a close up of Batman and Superman firmly shaking hands~~~

DAWN OF JUSTICE

 

An idea I have for my own BvS fanfic named Nightshade would be like this.

A group of ignorant and hateful witches band together to exact revenge on Superman for the destruction of Metropolis, which accidentally killed their leader Derek Thompson.

This group of hooligans are led by Carly Jameson, Derek's grieving girlfriend and old friend of my original character Raven Joyner.

The group of witches are rebels, they are tired of being the minority and being second class citizens to the humans.

This is the foil that will lead Raven into Metropolis, in order to stop Carly's reckless behavior before more innocent people die, just because of an accident.

Raven is more wiser and smarter than she was before. She doesn't like the idea of her own kind regressing back to their old human hating ways of the past.

Raven will be conflicted with whether to side with her own kind or break away from them to continue being a hero.

Nightshade is going to be set three years after Charmcaster: Origins.

 

Looks like I'll finally be getting this underway soon! Just need to finish my project for the BBC, and then I'll get to work on this, and I think all systems are go to give you guys an entertaining read!

To further expand on the whole "war/conflict" issues, I want to bring Gotham and Metropolis into entirely different settings. Metropolis, after the 3 years since the attack, is still recovering, but more or less back on its feet. Remember the huge waste ground at the end of MOS? That's going to be Memorial Park. There's the giant Superman statue there, as well as a giant stone memorial wall, to remember those who died. We're at a point where Metropolis is in love with Superman, but the rest of the world still isn't, and that's obviously due to the political liability they see him as. He's harmful, in their eyes, due to their mistrust against America.

Onto Gotham. That place is a totally different environment altogether. You thought it was bad before? The way I envision it, is that it will be a complete war zone. You might as well picture it as a third world country. With Gordon being dead, and with crime and corruption on the uprise, Gotham's citizens are giving up on the city. I was watching Harry Brown the other night, with good old Michael Caine in it, and there's scenes in that movie which I felt I would have to include in this BvS script. Riots amongst the people. Riots in general, the more I read and watched the reason behind riots, the more I wanted to include this.
I'm using bits and bobs about what I know already from the actual film, and the scenes depicting Ben Affleck amongst this devastation from the onset pics, where everybody thinks it's going to be a flashback to the attack on Metropolis? That is going to be a scene where a riot is happening, during the day, and Bruce comes out of Wayne Enterprises, which is the main target of attack, and tries to aid people as much as he can. This is also the beginning of him realising that Gotham is descending into the darkest reaches than ever before. Something that he's not so sure he can fight. I need to show the differences between Superman and Batman, and their individual environments, and everything that is going on within them.

 

A little scene that explains the prespective of another race's reaction to Superman.

Pointers:

Raven Joyner/Charmcaster - my own magical superhero
The Grand Council - the high council, who uphold the rules for witches

 

If anyone is interested in reading a DC fanfic about magic, a bit of mythology and in a DCCU world setting.

Charmcaster: Origins has been a passion story of mine, since the DC movie slate was revealed.

Me being a superhero fan and a creative writer. I created an original character named Raven Joyner, who will become the hero Charmcaster.

I don't want to spoil much, but it's pretty much a transformation and a redemption story of how someone so jaded and ignorant can change to be a more compassionate person.

Link: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11110212/1/Charmcaster-Origins