Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread

[GuestStar2004]

With Apocalypse the biggest differences between it and FC are

1. They are no longer the new cast or a cast or lesser known actors

2. More recognizable A lister characters

3. Much bigger villain then shaw who i don't think anyone had really heard of

4. Its coming off well received movies rather then poorly received movies

5. Has been said to be a much bigger X-Men movie then we have had so far

Obviously another factor would come down to marketing it better then they did FC and since singer has promised much more marketing to come i'd imagine it will be

 

[Tilapia]

It can gross more than DoFP domestic because of the character draws. But I would tend to agree that 200 million domestic is the nail in the coffin for major X-Films for some time. Unless it is a door buster overseas. 300 million is the standard for CBM hits with this kind of budget.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The original cast with Hugh Jackman is definitely a bigger draw than the First Class cast or just Hugh Jackman. The box-office numbers definitely proved that. Plus Patrick Stewart is still more recognizable as Professor X than James McAvoy.

And given by the box-office decline of Mission: Impossible and James Bond in North America despite following the most critical acclaimed film of their respective series (Ghost Protocol/Skyfall)... I think there's a big chance that Apocalypse won't outgross Days of Future Past in North America, not only because it lacks the original cast but also its competition. And like I said before, the excitement for this film is not the same as the hype for Days of Future Past.

I laregly agree.I have taken hits because i have said I think domesticly it may do less than DOFP.overseas is different story.every X-Men related film since origins has been doing better overseas.

DOFP had excitement at this time in 2013 that I am not seeing for
Apocalypse.

Last stand became the highest grossing x film domesticly based on people liking X2.so people liking DOFP is plus for apocalypse.But,unlike Last stand
it doesn't have most of cast coming back from previous film.

I question if FC3 with no wolverine and with younger actors as cyclops,jean,and storm will be as exciting to GA as film having cast of both FC and trilogy.I think worldwide destrucon and explosive mutant vs mutant action to save the world are draws for GA.

In 2015 Avengers,Mission Impossible,James Bond,and hungar Games all
declined at box office compared to previous film.and they had cast returning.
So it's not crazy talk to think Apocalypse does less than DOFP domesticly.

Apocalypse could pass 200 million domesticly and fail to match DOFP's numbers.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Last stand became the highest grossing x film domesticly based on people liking X2.so people liking DOFP is plus for apocalypse.But,unlike Last stand
it doesn't have most of cast coming back from previous film.

But From your logic that last stand was a hit because of X2 and Apocalypse will do good because of DOFP then shouldn't DOFP have done well because of FC being well recieved?

I question if FC3 with no wolverine and with younger actors as cyclops,jean,and storm will be as exciting to GA as film having cast of both FC and trilogy.I think worldwide destrucon and explosive mutant vs mutant action to save the world are draws for GA.

I notice that alot of people are not that shocked that the OC ain't involved but they are shocked that wolverine isn't involved so i believe the lack of jackman may disappoint some

I think one of the things that DOFP had was that it was based on the comic days of future past while X-Men: Apocalypse will be its own story that takes elements from AOA and other books rather then saying this is a direct adaption from this book so no one knows what to expect from this movie

 

[2kt09]

In 2015 Avengers,Mission Impossible,James Bond,and Hungar Games all
declined at box office compared to previous film.and they had cast returning.
So it's not crazy talk to think Apocalypse does less than DOFP domestically.

Apocalypse could pass 200 million domestically and fail to match DOFP's numbers.

I like to reiterate the Hunger Games factor given that it made the 2nd most domestic BO within that line-up and it's only been out for 1.5 months.
Sure, so far the series was at its domestic peak with the second installment, but that franchise really draws a crowd.

As much as it irks some X-fans, the second half of this trailer was eerily cut and has elements to also draw that audience.

 

[JP]

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[psylockolussus]

It can gross more than DoFP domestic because of the character draws.

Hmm I doubt that. Wolverine is still the biggest character draw when it comes to these X-Men movies and with Professor X/Magneto, its their younger version that we are getting and I really think the older Professor X/the older Magneto resonated more with the audience.

Then with Jean/Cyclops/Storm... sorry but yeah for X-Men fans, seeing those characters is a big deal but to the mainstream, sometimes they are more drawn to what they are more familiar with and I'm telling you they would be more eager to see those three with the actors that already portrayed them before multiple times.

 

[SuperT]

Then with Jean/Cyclops/Storm... sorry but yeah for X-Men fans, seeing those characters is a big deal but to the mainstream, sometimes they are more drawn to what they are more familiar with and I'm telling you they would be more eager to see those three with the actors that already portrayed them before multiple times.

That's highly debatable, and in my opinion wrong honestly, simply because Jansen, Marsden and Berry didn't own those roles and make them their own like Jackman has done with Wolverine. Granted they didn't get as many chances but that's irrelevant.

People aren't out here saying Marsden IS Cyclops or Berry IS Storm like they do with Jackman. Due to that fact, the popularity and familiarity of the characters themselves and their history play way more of a factor in getting people excited then what actor is playing them at this point.

Add to the fact that they're main players and we're getting origins for these characters that people have been asking for repeatedly and that overshadows the fact that they aren't being played by the original actors.

 

[psylockolussus]

I laregly agree.I have taken hits because i have said I think domesticly it may do less than DOFP.overseas is different story.every X-Men related film since origins has been doing better overseas.

DOFP had excitement at this time in 2013 that I am not seeing for
Apocalypse.

Last stand became the highest grossing x film domesticly based on people liking X2.so people liking DOFP is plus for apocalypse.But,unlike Last stand
it doesn't have most of cast coming back from previous film.

I question if FC3 with no wolverine and with younger actors as cyclops,jean,and storm will be as exciting to GA as film having cast of both FC and trilogy.I think worldwide destrucon and explosive mutant vs mutant action to save the world are draws for GA.

In 2015 Avengers,Mission Impossible,James Bond,and hungar Games all
declined at box office compared to previous film.and they had cast returning.
So it's not crazy talk to think Apocalypse does less than DOFP domesticly.

Apocalypse could pass 200 million domesticly and fail to match DOFP's numbers.

I also think the lack of IMAX tickets is a factor.

I just hope Fox knows what they are doing when they decided to not use the original cast once again after the big success of their comeback movie.

 

[Avalanche]

Slightly unrelated, but Deadpool tracking for $55 million opening week. Did not expect it to track that high. Awesome news.

 

[Mars123]

That's highly debatable, and in my opinion wrong honestly, simply because Jansen, Marsden and Berry didn't own those roles and make them their own like Jackman has done with Wolverine. Granted they didn't get as many chances but that's irrelevant.

People aren't out here saying Marsden IS Cyclops or Berry IS Storm like they do with Jackman. Due to that fact, the popularity and familiarity of the characters themselves and their history play way more of a factor in getting people excited then what actor is playing them at this point.

Add to the fact that they're main players and we're getting origins for these characters that people have been asking for repeatedly and that overshadows the fact that they aren't being played by the original actors.

I would argue Halle berry is know for playing storm! When you wear a white wig it's hard not to.... Plus in later years she really
Campaigned for a more fierce storm
And she has a love for the films.

 

[def28]

250-270 domestic
600-700m international

If solid reviews hit, and their characters get marketed properly.

 

[BeholdMe]

I would argue Halle berry is know for playing storm! When you wear a white wig it's hard not to.... Plus in later years she really
Campaigned for a more fierce storm
And she has a love for the films.

She is known for playing Storm but by no means did she own that role in any way at all, say like Stewart,McKellan or Jackman did. As a huge Storm fan she did that role no justice it was literally just Halle in a white wig not Storm. Her having a "love" for the movie dosent make her anymore Storm as does having more lines make that so.
I'm hoping the movie does 1 billion this go around or at least very close to it.

 

[Mars123]

She is known for playing Storm but by no means did she own that role in any way at all, say like Stewart,McKellan or Jackman did. As a huge Storm fan she did that role no justice it was literally just Halle in a white wig not Storm. Her having a "love" for the movie dosent make her anymore Storm as does having more lines make that so.
I'm hoping the movie does 1 billion this go around or at least very close to it.

I'm also a huge storm fan!! I liked her portrayal and her badassness in DOFP!
I also like her speech and xaviers funeral for a more compassionate side.

I'm looking forward to shipps portrayal also, hopefully some omega level power display be epic!!

I think it depends on the material and direction which perhaps lacked in the OT films on the storm front... But hey these are old debates etc.

I'm happy to have more storm

 

[Mars123]

On the box office front I wonder if the deadpool link will help
Push apocalypse.... Aswell as super bowl aswell as more hype over the coming months... Could match/surpass DOFP

 

[Avalanche]

On the box office front I wonder if the deadpool link will help
Push apocalypse.... Aswell as super bowl aswell as more hype over the coming months... Could match/surpass DOFP

It's bound to help the Apocalypse box office to some degree. People love this movie and will want more. They'll get a bit of a shock when they walk into Apocalypse though, which is tonally the polar opposite.

 

[Sithborg]

With all the X-men talk in the movie, it is sure to help build good feelings toward the franchise. But, we will see.

 

[BeholdMe]

I'm also a huge storm fan!! I liked her portrayal and her badassness in DOFP!
I also like her speech and xaviers funeral for a more compassionate side.

I'm looking forward to shipps portrayal also, hopefully some omega level power display be epic!!

I think it depends on the material and direction which perhaps lacked in the OT films on the storm front... But hey these are old debates etc.

I'm happy to have more storm

I agree her in DOFP I actually did enjoy it was indeed a step in the right direction for the character. I'm glad this film they are putting some emphasis on her as well as Cyclops.

 

[metaphysician]

It's bound to help the Apocalypse box office to some degree. People love this movie and will want more. They'll get a bit of a shock when they walk into Apocalypse though, which is tonally the polar opposite.

I don't think that would do XMA any favors. Sure, it'd get more people in the front door opening weekend, but it would also kill the WOM. You don't want half your early viewers to come out bad-mouthing the movie to anyone they meet because they were expecting something completely different, and thus judged it on not being that. This is doubly a risk if XMA is in any way lower quality than Deadpool, because then the audience will condemn it for objectively identifiable flaws in writing or acting or whatnot, which will be tough to refute.

The only way I could see this being a good thing is if X-Men Apocalypse is a complete pig in a poke, and fooling people into showing up for opening weekend is the best possible scenario anyway. I am a little skeptical of the movie, but I don't think its going to be *that* bad.

 

[Wildcard]

If XMA gets similar reviews & has word of mouth like DOFP, I could definitely see it crossing that $800-$900 million threshold. I don't see it becoming a billion dollar champion, but if it's a truly solid entry that delivers on all ends like DOFP, I really can't see it making anything less than $700 million.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I think DP will help the opening weekend, but after that it's on Apocalypse to deliver the goodies. I think it will.

850 m -1 billion.

Surely most people will understand the more mature nature of a Singer X-film then Deadpool. If not by history then just by the trailers alone.

 

[marieylee]

If XMA gets similar reviews & has word of mouth like DOFP, I could definitely see it crossing that $800-$900 million threshold. I don't see it becoming a billion dollar champion, but if it's a truly solid entry that delivers on all ends like DOFP, I really can't see it making anything less than $700 million.

Yeah, I have a hard time seeing it make less than $200 million domestic and $500 million OS.

While I was waiting in line for popcorn (my theater had the display), so a bunch of people taking pics with the display. I know its not a sure thing those people will watch it, but I did see like 3 teenage girls totally fangirling over JLaw and Evan Peters, how they couldn't wait to see it.

 

[Superhero 101]

It's bound to help the Apocalypse box office to some degree. People love this movie and will want more. They'll get a bit of a shock when they walk into Apocalypse though, which is tonally the polar opposite.

I agree Deadpool is funny and action packed XMA is dark and serious. Plus the marketing for Deadpool was genius and the Marketing for XMA has been pretty much quiet. I don't see XMA making as much as DP for these reasons

 

[Wildcard]

Yeah, I have a hard time seeing it make less than $200 million domestic and $500 million OS.

While I was waiting in line for popcorn (my theater had the display), so a bunch of people taking pics with the display. I know its not a sure thing those people will watch it, but I did see like 3 teenage girls totally fangirling over JLaw and Evan Peters, how they couldn't wait to see it.

I'm actually counting on this to be the first X-Men film to crack $300 million domestically but it has to be really superb for that to happen.

I do think it's a possibility, no doubt. All depends on what audiences think of that final product.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Will be interesting to see the 2nd trailer reaction