Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix Skepticism Thread

[Frankeh]

Did people not say that they wanted bryan singer out and SOMEONE ELSE to direct it? Yes or no?

Well, you people got your wish.

So you are flip-flopping. First we wanted "new people on board", now we wanted "Singer out and someone else". Curious how that works.

 

[RalphieRandy]

So you are flip-flopping. First we wanted "new people on board", now we wanted "Singer out and someone else". Curious how that works.

No, I'm not flip flopping. Did you people not say that you wanted "fresh/new blood" and that you were tired on singer's way of doing things? They have added some new people to the team, you people said so yourselves on here. And sorry, but kinberg is a "new person" to this franchise's director chair. Not my fault the new person was someone who was already there, but just not a director.

So again, you got new people on the team and a LITERAL new director. He's new alright as he's never donethis before.

 

[Frankeh]

And sorry, but kinberg is a "new person" to this franchise's director chair. Not my fault the new person was someone who was already there,

Nah, he's not new.

 

[RalphieRandy]

Nah, he's not new.

Yes, he is new. Has he ever directed an x-men movie before? If not, then technically, he is new.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Nah, he's not new.

Just stop.... No point debating this guy. We all know what Kinberg is.

 

[RalphieRandy]

Just stop.... No point debating this guy. We all know what Kinberg is.

Yes, we do. He's new to the directors chair for this franchise. Do you need to dictionary's definition?

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Do you need to dictionary's definition?

Yes since I obviously don't know what new means. Please waste some of your time to enlighten me .

 

[marcvader]

I interpret new as new to the franchise.

 

[RalphieRandy]

I interpret new as new to the franchise.

And I interpret it as new to the directors chair for the franchise. People said no singer, and they got no singer. Apparently, that's what the people behind the scenes thought, too.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Kinberg's been involved with every X-MEN related TV/Movie except X1/X2 & Wolverine 1.

The best description IMO is uninspired.


But at least he's not Singer.

 

[Frankeh]

I interpret new as new to the franchise.

Of course that's what it means. But RalphieRandy here flip-flops the goalposts of people he pretends to speak for.

 

[Zarex]

They should higher Laura Shuler Donner to direct. She new.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

They should higher Laura Shuler Donner to direct. She new.

I love LSD.... Her only mistake IMO is not hiring Feige to bigger role.

 

[Frankeh]

I love LSD....

You certainly do.

 

[EnDz0n3]

People are so confusing here. First they didn't want x-men to release in the summer now they say it'll be its downfall because it's not. Then they said too much wolverine, now they say the series won't survive without him. Then they say they need to be more fantastical and less grounded, now they say it's not gonna work. Then they said they want new people on board and a different director and now that's not good enough. Then they say they want present day but logan messes it all up.

Then what do they want? Then when some of us point this flip flopping out they claim we're causing trouble or "flipping out". Do they even know what they want? Excuse us for not being so sinister in our thinking 24/7. I have reservations about some things too but man..........and like you said, all THIS when we know extremely little. Dang, just wait.

So, different people have different opinions about different things?

Imagine that.

 

[RalphieRandy]

Of course that's what it means. But RalphieRandy here flip-flops the goalposts of people he pretends to speak for.

So I flip flop things? Nobody else could possibly interpret a "new director" the same way I did, right? I'm the only person who could have ever thought that? You wanted a new director, you got a new director.
I don't pretend to speak for anyone. I'm repeating what you people said.

 

[RalphieRandy]

So, different people have different opinions about different things?

Imagine that.

Many of those opinions come from the same people. Don't scream for change and when you finally get it, get upset about the change. Change is what you originally wanted.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

You certainly do.

I'm to chicken to ever try anything above weed & hash.....


But idk i just find LSD to be a very attractive older woman.

 

[autumnkid2000]

I love LSD.... Her only mistake IMO is not hiring Feige to bigger role.

I like her. She seems to be more knowledgeable of the X-Men mythos than Singer.

 

[BeholdMe]

Did people not say that they wanted bryan singer out and SOMEONE ELSE to direct it? Yes or no?

Well, you people got your wish. It's just not exactly what you were wishing for. Funny how ya prayers get answered sometimes, huh?

I know for a fact when I said I wanted someone else on board that I specifically said fresh blood and fresh ideas which would not involve Kinberg since he has been with the property from the start. Please dont twist what people are saying or throw everyone in the same category. Just as your happy with what they are doing others have a right to be a little worried and unsure how this will all play out.

 

[RalphieRandy]

I know for a fact when I said I wanted someone else on board that I specifically said fresh blood and fresh ideas which would not involve Kinberg since he has been with the property from the start. Please dont twist what people are saying or throw everyone in the same category. Just as your happy with what they are doing others have a right to be a little worried and unsure how this will all play out.

I never said I was happy with what they're doing. I've expressed here the problems that I do have, though I don't feel the need to constantly express them. If you expressed that you didn't want kinberg, that's one thing. But many just said they wanted singer out and wanted someone new. Well, singer's out and kinberg is new. Yes, I remember some saying get rid of kinberg, but not everyone expressed that. And like I said, the people working on the movie obviously heard the "new" comments too and interpreted as new or different from singer. Which, according to his interviews, has claimed to do things differently than singer.

 

[X-Maniac]

Many of those opinions come from the same people. Don't scream for change and when you finally get it, get upset about the change. Change is what you originally wanted.

People wanted a complete change ie no one who had ever been involved with X-Men before.

In addition, Kinberg directed some parts of X-Men: Apocalypse because Singer kept swanning off on vacation so he isn't even really new to that role. That does explain some of the 'weaknesses' in that film.

 

[BeholdMe]

I never said I was happy with what they're doing. I've expressed here the problems that I do have, though I don't feel the need to constantly express them. If you expressed that you didn't want kinberg, that's one thing. But many just said they wanted singer out and wanted someone new. Well, singer's out and kinberg is new. Yes, I remember some saying get rid of kinberg, but not everyone expressed that. And like I said, the people working on the movie obviously heard the "new" comments too and interpreted as new or different from singer. Which, according to his interviews, has claimed to do things differently than singer.

I do understand what your saying. I feel Fox knew what people meant if they did indeed hear people speaking of someone new that they meant someone who has never touched the movies or worked on them lol there being shady. I dont always express my concern for this movie but they are there Im just seeing what that first trailer looks like and how the movie is when it comes back hoping for the best. Im hopeful that it all works out and we get a great movie.

 

[RalphieRandy]

People wanted a complete change ie no one who had ever been involved with X-Men before.

In addition, Kinberg directed some parts of X-Men: Apocalypse because Singer kept swanning off on vacation so he isn't even really new to that role. That does explain some of the 'weaknesses' in that film.

Welp, fox didn't pick up on that.

 

[Mad Ones]

Fox clearly doesn't care about what fans want