Discussion in 'X-Men: Dark Phoenix' started by Electrix, Jan 25, 2018.
I have to say I recall none of the music after watching. It def wasn’t bad , but for me- not memorable at all. I still remember X3’s music tho.
The X-Men do have a theme, and for my money, it's the very best of the franchise. It's even the most similar to the animated series theme. It was epic and moving. "Gap" on the OST, and also featured in "Reckless". The Phoenix theme isn't better than Powell's as a piece of stand alone music, but it's very close IMO. It's more haunting. Last Stand has an overly whimsical feel to it, that just clashes with everything.
Could you even imagine Ottman's score in Dark Phoenix? Holy god that would be awful. Or Powell's, even worse. It does NOT fit the tone what so ever. Just as it wouldn't have fit X-Men 1. Too grandiose for a smaller scale movie. Han's music fit's the small scale, grounded, dark tone of DP perfectly.
I'd argue it's one of the best scores of the year.
I really enjoyed the use of "Gap" throughout the film. It actually felt quite ominous and fitting for a film that marked the end of a 20 year legacy of films.
Beyond Gap I didn't really notice the score. I'll have to give it a listen later.
I wouldn't say Zimmer is past it at all but his production is remarkable.
Surprisingly didn't find the score all that great in the movie. Certainly not as good as X3 or even Zimmer's previous works like TDKT and MOS.
The X-Men theme/motif was okay
I actually didn’t like parts of the score. because the film is so low-key and intimately shot for the most part, there were times where the music felt too “epic” and triumphant sounding for what was happening on screen
The score was overbearing and dull.
At first, it was good and okay but in the middle of the film, the music just made the movie even more somber and dull.
I didn't notice the score at all.
I haven't seen the film (and won't until it's available to rent), however as an album I thought the score was pretty good if a tad underwhelming. Unfortunately my prediction about it sounding like Dunkirk/Inferno was correct, but thankfully it's miles better than either of those, easily Zimmer's best since BvS. Overall it's a lot less melodic than I was hoping for (I only count two themes, the main X-Men one and one for the Dark Phoenix). The moments that use choir are nice, and the themes are solid (if a tad unimaginative). The score just doesn't pack much of an emotional punch; the bulk of cues are mostly droning and ambient sound design, not the kind of material that makes a lasting impression.
Even though I liked it, I'd still rank almost all of the other main X-scores above it. I just prefer more thematic and hummable music, and Powell's take on this story is so much more emotional and nuanced.
Here's how I rank the franchise's scores:
X-Men: The Last Stand
X-Men: First Class
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Deadpool 1 & 2
The score is the one thing I think is indisputably top notch about this movie. And yes, it's way better than the score for The Last Stand. That said, Dark Phoenix is proof that a good score does not save a deeply flawed movie.
The score definitely tried to trick audiences into thinking they weren't just looking at rundown sets and a bunch of ugly steel at night. It doesn't work but nice effort lol.
Does anyone have a breakdown of which scenes correspond to tracks on the DP soundtrack?
From how I listened to it, it’s just in the order the movie played out too.
It's definitely up there in the top 2.
How do you folks feel the score lines up with Zimmer's other superhero work?
I think it's the worst and most boring, generic one he's ever done. Right down there with BvS.
It’s my 2nd favorite of the franchise. First is X3, 3rd would be DoFP.
The score was best thing here but still sounded like Zimmer's outtakes he assembled in few hours
Admittedly not something I'm all that knowledgeable about, but I quite liked the score. The theme got stuck in my head, and I've been listening since. Very brooding, I like it more than TLS.
I've been addicted to this score over the last few days.
The score was the best thing by a mile in this, it deserved to be for a much better film sadly.
The score while young Jean stood in front of the mansion was perfect.
I’ll just go too 5
5) X-Men: Apocalypse: I mean “The Transference” And “You’re X-Men” alone are worth the listening, I didn’t completely love the new choral aspect of the X-Men main theme but I’m a sucker for Ottman’s theme, so there you go.
4) X-Men: First Class: Just a really amazing villain theme for Magneto, love the almost call back to the Cerebro theme from the first movie, and loved the new X-Men theme, it got a little over heroic in the actual movie score mix, but fortunately none of those over the top tracks are on the actual score.
3) X-Men: Just a beautiful Kamen score, dark, broody, and it had an amazing fanfare for Magneto, I remember watching the movie as a kid and it was almost scary, and the score helped, great first theme for the X-Men with an amazing reprise before the credits start, cool motif for Mystique and a moving theme for Rogue and Logan’s bond.
2) X-Men: The Last Stand: Talk about a score being absolutely superior to a movie, the Phoenix sequences were truly augmented by Powell’s amazing score, they truly elevated this movie as much as humanly possible, the main theme wasn’t also pretty cool sadly most of the score in the film is obscured in probably one of the worst sound mixes in current cinema history, but fortunately again the score itself is pretty much perfect.
1) X2: The main theme is just glorious mixed perfectly with the militaristic drums signaling Stryker’s involvement, and just hints of evil and mischief (never like my hero themes to be over the top heroic), Mystique has a beautiful harp theme, the seduction theme for Pyro was amazing, lots of great urgency sections in the score, and every now and then the just absurdly well placed nod to the main theme in just the correct moment, a nice little theme for the future Phoenix that never was, and just one of the most badass endings of a soundtrack with a fake ending, the ultimate X-Men score for the ultimate X-Men movie (so far).