Sequels X-Men: First Class

It'd be contadictory for him to show up in any First Class films, as a major or even minor character, a cameo maybe, but starring alongside/ or in fron tof/ or interacting with the X-Men... wouldn't make sense with X1 being the first time the team met him and all
 
I doubt FIRST CLASS would feature Logan. I wouldn't mind some sort of "mention" of him and the Weapon X project, though.
 
They might have like a 5 minute Hugh cameo so they can show it in all the trailers to make people think Wolverine is in this film.
 
I wouldn’t might if they recreated the ending from wolverine, to back track as the starting point, then continue the story from there
(Maybe, show it more from the captured mutants prospective)
 
To be honest, I think X-Men: First Class should start further back than the end of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
 
To be honest, I think X-Men: First Class should start further back than the end of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Should start maybe, with very young Scott, Jean, Ororo, Hank, and a younger Xavier, etc, but to stay there? No. We'd be looking at X-MEN: PRESCHOOL.
 
While I like the idea of a Wolverine-less "traditional" X-Men movie, I fail to see exactly what will seperate this type of film from X-Men 1 except for a slight changing of cast/roster...

I mean, who are the X-Men going to fight? Magneto and the Brotherhood, right? So that'd be...what? Mystique (again), Toad (again), Sabretooth (I find that unlikely)...and who are the X-Men going to be? Cyclops...Jean...Storm...a young Beast, that's all that's different. What's the plot? Magneto wants to replace humanity...but Xavier and Magneto seemed to establish that they would be at odds/war with each other in X-Men 1, rather than indicating that they'd battled all-out previously ("Magneto believes that a war is brewing...", "Magneto's right, a war is coming...", unless you want to retroactively read this reference to war as the battle in X-Men: The Last Stand).

However, I'd still enjoy it, so here's an idea:

Scott, Jean, Storm and Hank are the young X-Men, as established. Scott's arc is either a) that he's trying to live up to the responsibilities he faces as a leader, or b) that he is trying to put words to his feelings for Jean, or even c) both. Jean is struggling to contain the power the dwells inside her, scenes with Xavier (hinted at in X-Men: The Last Stand) will serve to indicate her constantly on the verge of losing control of herself. Storm should be darker, harsher, being out of her element from being worshipped as a Goddess and surrounded by people who now hate and fear her. Hank should be the oldest, the straight, thinking man, who has an out-of-character moment where he loses control and gets mad, possibly at Magneto/in some plot relvant way (like revealing some secret.location or something) so he can have some guilt issues to give him a dramatic arc.

The Brotherhood should be comprised of Magneto (here in a less active, mentor-like role and "Man Behind The Man" position to be seen as a more specific dark mirror of Xavier), Mystique (covert operations, as per usual, but serving as a mirror to Storm's hatred of humanity to help her work out her issues a bit to accept her new family in the X-Men, but not forgive humanity yet beause that "happens" in X2), Avalanche (a mirror for Cyclops; an arrogant prick who has no problem in trying it on with Jean and overlooking Scott completely), Toad (a snarky little bugger who eggs on Beast, contasting Beast's power with his speed and being a bit dimmer where Beast is smart), and...how about Quicksilver? Haven't seen him before, and he's Magneto's son. He can be sly and cunning and maybe try to tempt Jean into joining the Brotherhood (I admit I was struggling for a fourth member, so any other ideas are just as good, but it should be someone to contrast Jean a bit).

I think an interesting plot element could be using Havoc in some capacity as well, perhaps he joins the Brotherhood and causes some angst between him and Scott, only to convert back. If not him, then at least one member of the Brotherhood should join Xavier's school and convert to good by the end. I was gonna suggest Avalanche, but I see him as being such a prick that it might be better if it was Quicksilver (or if he at least turned on Magneto and went out on his own).

I think Moira should be a presence at the school, helping Xavier to define his mission and his training, and there can be X-Kids at the school, but it'd be better to focus on the "First Class" entirely and showcase them as a team, but also a sbickering adolescents.

As for plot though...I suppose Magneto would send his Brotherhood out to attack (I hesitate to say "kill") certain key members of the government in acts of terrorism to try to bully the normals into accepting Mutant superiority, or at least recognising Mutant rights. This, however, hurts Mutant negotiations more than it helps, as Mutants are perceived as a threat to national security and the public. This damages the fledging X-Men, who have been attempting to do good as a superhero team (by the way: no X-Jet in this film) and are now feared for being a similar terrorist group. This leads to an inevitable confrontation between them and the Brotherhood, in two conflicts in the streets (a conflict of physicality, insults, and manipulations) before the final fight at the end.

However, this is a smokescreen for Magneto's larger plan, which is to place Mystique inside Washington to impersonate key members of the senate to obtain valuable information...of some sort...which, alerts Xavier to Magneto being the Man Behind The Man and leads him to confront him in a meeting that either does, or does not, cost Xavier his use of his legs.

This is where I'm fizzling out of ideas, but I think the film should obviously take place after X-Men Origins: Wolverine, but should not show any footage from that film, only refrence the rescue of Scott and the others. I would rather not see a whole bunch of MUtant cameos, just leave them in the background and focus on the four-on-four rivalry with the X-Men and the Brotherhood and the personal issues of the X-Men. With no Wolverine, you can argue that most movie-only-fans will be put off by his absence, and it's hard to argue against including him somehow. But for the sake of continuity, I say don't; don't even hint at him past the reference to that rescue.

The film should end with Beast (he could be human looking, or furry....maybe even transform as an effect of his temper outburst mentioned earlier, either due to science (!) or a surge of Mutation) leaving for Washington or to begin a career outside of the school, and the X-Men established as a team (and Scott and Jean as a couple) with the unveiling of the X-Jet, flying off on another mission (but not out to save Rogue and Wolverine to tie into X-Men 1, these X-Men will still be to young for that). If you absolutely must work in a Wolverine cameo, it should be something really subtle, like an airport scene when he steps off a plane (from Japan, perhaps after the events of Wolverine 2) and has to take cover from a battle between the X-Men and the Brotherhood (but it is important that he shouldn't actually see any of the Mutants).

Much as I like Wolverine, and the X-Men, I would love to see a more team-orientated film, but there's so many issues surrounding it that I'd be surprised if it was done. Or done well.
 
While I like the idea of a Wolverine-less "traditional" X-Men movie, I fail to see exactly what will seperate this type of film from X-Men 1 except for a slight changing of cast/roster...

I mean, who are the X-Men going to fight? Magneto and the Brotherhood, right? So that'd be...what? Mystique (again), Toad (again), Sabretooth (I find that unlikely)...and who are the X-Men going to be? Cyclops...Jean...Storm...a young Beast, that's all that's different. What's the plot? Magneto wants to replace humanity...but Xavier and Magneto seemed to establish that they would be at odds/war with each other in X-Men 1, rather than indicating that they'd battled all-out previously ("Magneto believes that a war is brewing...", "Magneto's right, a war is coming...", unless you want to retroactively read this reference to war as the battle in X-Men: The Last Stand).

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Why does it have to be Magneto and the Brotherhood again? Why not actually set up Magneto's split with Xavier, instead of having it happen right away. Considering that Mr. sinister is really connected to cyclops back story in the comics, why not use him as the main villain in this movie and save Magneto's split with Xavier for a sequel?

That could make things different from X-Men 1, not to mention you would have these characters meeting and interacting for the first time, so that could be different. Also you can have Jean and Scott's budding romance without Wolverine around.
 
I think a good way to do it is to have them face off against some new villain and have the Xavier/Magneto split take place at the end after the events of the film reveal that the two of them no longer see eye to eye.
 
I wouldn’t might if they recreated the ending from wolverine, to back track as the starting point, then continue the story from there
(Maybe, show it more from the captured mutants prospective)
me either, but I'd like to see Cyke's backstory maybe flushed out in flashbacks
 
He doesn't have to be there in the first film but definitely further on. Wolverine has been a part of so many different hero teams it would be difficult to tell that story so it would be wise to simplify with him just going to the X-Men and maybe telling his story and not showing that whole saga.

These films are prequels. This means they take place before the original trilogy and must be within the same continuity as the original trilogy. Wolverine should not be part of the team, and he won't be. Not unless they decide to reboot the franchise. Which probably will not happen.
 
so its been over a year but i finally got around to making more movie prequel/reboot costume designs: Iceman and Storm.
iceman_reboot.jpg


storm_reboot.jpg
 
and here are the rest of them:
cyclops_reboot.jpg
jean_reboot.jpg

wolverine_reboot.jpg
beast_reboot.jpg

psylocke_reboot.jpg
nightcrawler_reboot.jpg
rogue_reboot.jpg
angel_reboot.jpg
 
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I like how each one is individualistic and unique, without looking ridiculous. Definitely a style I could see in a movie. I like Nightcrawler's and Psylocke's the best.
 
Someone is saying that Bryan Signer has just said he has wrapped a deal to direct the movie. He supposedly said this at the Avatar premiere.

Not confirmed though.
 
I hope so Singer brings intelligence/heart/drama/ to x men that is reminiscent of Nolan with Batman and Favreau with IM that has been lost since he left.
 
That would be a good sign that the movie will be kept in some kind of continuity. If he directs, I think it would jive better in the series than Wolverine did.
 
I've found the clip where he announces it.

Go here: http://www.myspace.com/officialavatarmovie Click play, then click 'next slide' three times. It's around the 27 minute mark.

It's official!
lol you should warn ppl that Rothman is on the video. Is that the part you're talking about cuz I only listened for a minute. I don't want to go through his whole interview
 
It's actually in the video after the Rothman interview. He said that he signed the deal yesterday!

I guess it can't get anymore official than this! I am totally shocked!
 

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