Sequels X-Men: First Class

[Spider-Fan83]

except for the fact jason 143 wasn't saved on 3mile island, he was frozen in a block of ice. now... my other question is... when was jason a student? because i got the impression in wolverine jason already had killed his mother which would have been after he was a student (as said in X2)

he obviously survived (well kinda) as he is in x2 15+ years later

but, ya, I too got the impression in xo:w that, this part of his story was already done...
not to say he couldn't still show up in a flashback, or something

though, if he did survive in some way or another, I suppose magnet could find him, and use him to his plans

 

[JP]

Cyclops
Jean
Beast
Storm
Emma

and I'm there.

 

[I_am_iron_man]

My two cents to a possible story.

I seriously think that if they combine the classic Marvel stories to Ultimate stories...Must be a good movie.

They can introduce Xavier and his school with the first students: Cyclops, Beast, Storm, Jean, Emma and, why not?, Banshee. They are also other students but Xavier want that other students studying while these 6 chars learn to fight and put together a team called X-Men.

Meanwhile Mr. Sinister has vision of Apocalypse that explain if wants live forever they must kill 5 mutants. Sinister kill three mutants (maybe Dazzler, Banshee, Polaris?). The X-Men are in search for the truth. When Sinister kill Havok, Cyclops wants revenge. Sinister wants kill Cyclops for last.

It's good if Gambit works for Sinister as a "Marauder" but he don't know what Sinister doing with the mutants he kidnap. After fight, Gambit knows the truth and help X-Men to find Sinister and fight him.

Before Cyclops kill him, Xavier stops and Sinister is arrested. Like in Ultimate comics in the end we hear that Sinister has vision (again) of Apocalypse and these "monster" ask him to commit suicide.

 

[GoldGoblin]

They shouldn't have Emma and Jean,they are too similair and it would be boring.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Cyclops
Jean
Beast
Storm
Emma

and I'm there.

emma really shouldn't be part of first class... unless she leaves early on and becomes the "troubled bad girl" who doesn't want to play by xaviers rules. id much much rather it be another guy... 3 women with 2 men just sounds like too much estrogen for my liking (an this is coming from a gay man) lol. I'd prefer banshee get his shot since his daughter is in X2, it'd also help introduce muir island a bit more and give moira another chance to come back into the story.

 

[JP]

emma really shouldn't be part of first class... unless she leaves early on and becomes the "troubled bad girl" who doesn't want to play by xaviers rules. id much much rather it be another guy... 3 women with 2 men just sounds like too much estrogen for my liking (an this is coming from a gay man) lol. I'd prefer banshee get his shot since his daughter is in X2, it'd also help introduce muir island a bit more and give moira another chance to come back into the story.

I want Banshee AND Emma.
lol

 

[spideyboy_1111]

My two cents to a possible story.

I seriously think that if they combine the classic Marvel stories to Ultimate stories...Must be a good movie.

They can introduce Xavier and his school with the first students: Cyclops, Beast, Storm, Jean, Emma and, why not?, Banshee. They are also other students but Xavier want that other students studying while these 6 chars learn to fight and put together a team called X-Men.

Meanwhile Mr. Sinister has vision of Apocalypse that explain if wants live forever they must kill 5 mutants. Sinister kill three mutants (maybe Dazzler, Banshee, Polaris?). The X-Men are in search for the truth. When Sinister kill Havok, Cyclops wants revenge. Sinister wants kill Cyclops for last.

It's good if Gambit works for Sinister as a "Marauder" but he don't know what Sinister doing with the mutants he kidnap. After fight, Gambit knows the truth and help X-Men to find Sinister and fight him.

Before Cyclops kill him, Xavier stops and Sinister is arrested. Like in Ultimate comics in the end we hear that Sinister has vision (again) of Apocalypse and these "monster" ask him to commit suicide.

no offense.. but that sounds horrible

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I want Banshee AND Emma.
lol

i want Emma done correctly though... i want hellfire club, i want Massachusetts academy, i want redemption as a hero.

 

[JP]

In regards to this film not being able to be "too big", I have to mention that out of 4 movies, X3 is the only film where the events took place in public. Wolverine, X1, and X2 were all private matters. So, First Class can be as big as it wants to be.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

well it can't be bigger then the events of X3... or X2's "death to all humans" hell even X1's liberty island incodent the government would have surely been hunting mutants down by X3 with 4 public events already happening. They let mutants slide with X1 realizing it was a mutant terrorist, and not all mutants are evil. in X2 the presidency barely let it slide and needed an intervention to bring that to attention.

though i do think a public event should happen, but just one that makes mutants public in general. Not one that is going to cause a round up of mutants. Or makes us wonder why the government let them slide for so long

 

[knowsbleed]

I'm interested in how they will handle Xavier's character... he's not getting any younger... or if Stewart would even agree to be part of it.

 

[gap5ewl]

I'm just happy Singer's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gap5ewl]

SINGER!!!!!!! I seriously almost fainted when I heard the news. Yeah I had to post it twice to reveal my excitement!

 

[BMM]

Stewart stated that both he and McKellen would like to continue exploring their characters.

http://filmonic.com/patrick-stewart-talks-x-men-and-star-trek-458

 

[Mad Ones]

I pray they won't use the de-aging special effects on him the entire movie. It was fine in X3, but looked really creepy in Wolverine. If he's in, I'd just leave him alone and I'll suspend my disbelief.

I can easily see Emma and Gambit showing up, due to what was present in Wolverine. I'd also like to see Havok and Polaris.

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Sigh... need i explain everything.

The X-Men Franchise is very closely tied together so they cant really make a movie where it just doesnt add up.

My theory is this...

There will be a bit of back story, lightly touched upon because they want to explore Xaviers and Magneto's friendship in the Magneto movie... But were talking first class so.

Starts off with Xavier explaining his dream to Magneto and them opening a school, possibly by this point Magneto learns he has children via Magda whom he had thought he lost. However upon trying to find her he finds that some anti-mutant group killed magda and took her children... the childrens wareabouts are unknown and so Xavier builds Cerebro to help his friend track them down.

Elsewhere (Jason 143) Strykers son, had drove his mother to kill herself and Stryker did put him on ice. So thats why he is there during the wolverine movie.

Xavier adventually locates Magneto's Children at 3 mile island with other mutants held captive, knowing that Magneto would take action, in a more peaceful way Xavier goes to rescue them.

End of wolverine scene shows the mutants finding Xavier.

Now think of this, at the time of the end of the wolverine movie, Beast would of been at least working with or for Xavier, and he has connections to the goverment, or a political group. But were talking Pre-Blue beast though. Under the investigation of 3 mile island i would of imagin they would of come across the frozen MUTANTS... there was more than one but Jason was the only visable one. Being a child without a parent because stryker was imprisioned im guessing Beast helped bring the child to Xavier.

Xavier then goes to meet with stryker in prison but warns that his son his mentally ill.

Magneto hates Stryker and wants him dead because of what he did to Magda and it would partly explain why Magneto at the end of x-men 2 tied up stryker so he would die. mostly you believe its because of what he was going to do with all the mutants around the world. But there was a personal level involved with magneto and kidnapping his kids would be a good reason for him to act the way he did in x2.

See Magneto's bitter thoughts and Xaviers peaceful ones collide and we then start to see why Magneto instigated the Brotherhood.

Remember, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch escaped the facility and was found by xavier. chances are were looking at the original brotherhood comming to gether from the comic books. With Jason added as a student, im thinking the social devide between Magneto and Xavier was split when Magneto warped jasons mind with Magnetos idealistic views of mutant superiority. So Magneto with his first brotherhood members, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch and Jason as Mastermind... side away from Xavier and his vision

Infact Magneto could be the very reason why Xavier realises he needs X-Men, because although Xaviers dream of mutants and humans living together. some may not share this idea and act because of it.

The first x-men would then have to consist of, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Storm and i think we could initialy put in a very young Angel and Iceman... Angel being more around the age of Iceman. or slightly older.

i was calculating the age ratio... see Ben Foster who played angel and Shawn Ashmore who played iceman look around the same age although with Ben he could look slightly older if he had to. So it is reasonable to believe that you have the first x-men team consist of 6 mutants (Cyclops aged 18) (Jean Grey aged 18) (Storm aged 17) (Beast aged 21) (Angel aged 15) (Iceman aged 13)

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

I just thought of something... with singer back in...

Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan may return.

 

[zenith16]

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I pray the won't use the de-aging special effects on him the entire movie. It was fine in X3, but looked really creepy in Wolverine. If he's in, I'd just leave him alone and I'll suspend my disbelief.

I can easily see Emma and Gambit showing up, due to what was present in Wolverine. I'd also like to see Havok and Polaris.

it was creepy in XO:W cause fox dumped the special effects company that did X3 and the spiderman movies. it was shown in the news that the special effects company gain acclaim after those movies for their work and to fox that means" oh their gonna want to be payed more by us let's find another one." thus you got alien looking prof X.

Again I'm saying I don't trust this in fox's hands. they'll find a way to screw this as usual. and I'm not trying to be a jerk about this. it's just their M.O. especially when it comes to money that's the first thing that puts every thing in bad place story wise and the rest of the other elements that should make a great movie fall with it. or stop it from being what it should be.

 

[BMM]

Sigh... need i explain everything.

The X-Men Franchise is very closely tied together so they cant really make a movie where it just doesnt add up.

My theory is this...

There will be a bit of back story, lightly touched upon because they want to explore Xaviers and Magneto's friendship in the Magneto movie... But were talking first class so.

Starts off with Xavier explaining his dream to Magneto and them opening a school, possibly by this point Magneto learns he has children via Magda whom he had thought he lost. However upon trying to find her he finds that some anti-mutant group killed magda and took her children... the childrens wareabouts are unknown and so Xavier builds Cerebro to help his friend track them down.

Elsewhere (Jason 143) Strykers son, had drove his mother to kill herself and Stryker did put him on ice. So thats why he is there during the wolverine movie.

Xavier adventually locates Magneto's Children at 3 mile island with other mutants held captive, knowing that Magneto would take action, in a more peaceful way Xavier goes to rescue them.

End of wolverine scene shows the mutants finding Xavier.

Now think of this, at the time of the end of the wolverine movie, Beast would of been at least working with or for Xavier, and he has connections to the goverment, or a political group. But were talking Pre-Blue beast though. Under the investigation of 3 mile island i would of imagin they would of come across the frozen MUTANTS... there was more than one but Jason was the only visable one. Being a child without a parent because stryker was imprisioned im guessing Beast helped bring the child to Xavier.

Xavier then goes to meet with stryker in prison but warns that his son his mentally ill.

Magneto hates Stryker and wants him dead because of what he did to Magda and it would partly explain why Magneto at the end of x-men 2 tied up stryker so he would die. mostly you believe its because of what he was going to do with all the mutants around the world. But there was a personal level involved with magneto and kidnapping his kids would be a good reason for him to act the way he did in x2.

See Magneto's bitter thoughts and Xaviers peaceful ones collide and we then start to see why Magneto instigated the Brotherhood.

Remember, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch escaped the facility and was found by xavier. chances are were looking at the original brotherhood comming to gether from the comic books. With Jason added as a student, im thinking the social devide between Magneto and Xavier was split when Magneto warped jasons mind with Magnetos idealistic views of mutant superiority. So Magneto with his first brotherhood members, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch and Jason as Mastermind... side away from Xavier and his vision

Infact Magneto could be the very reason why Xavier realises he needs X-Men, because although Xaviers dream of mutants and humans living together. some may not share this idea and act because of it.

The first x-men would then have to consist of, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Storm and i think we could initialy put in a very young Angel and Iceman... Angel being more around the age of Iceman. or slightly older.

i was calculating the age ratio... see Ben Foster who played angel and Shawn Ashmore who played iceman look around the same age although with Ben he could look slightly older if he had to. So it is reasonable to believe that you have the first x-men team consist of 6 mutants (Cyclops aged 18) (Jean Grey aged 18) (Storm aged 17) (Beast aged 21) (Angel aged 15) (Iceman aged 13)

Given that no one knows who Angel is in The Last Stand, it doesn’t make much sense for him to have been a student at the School. Also, I hope the movie doesn’t focus nearly that much attention on Stryker or his son. Enough is enough.

 

[markaudette]

Despite being catastrophically disappointed with Superman Returns, I'm actually very excited that Bryan is coming back to the X-men franchise. Because he can actually do the X-films justice.

However, I hope Bryan has learned to incorporate a lot more action into his suspense formula that he does so well.

 

[Goldenage Batman]

Well I hope to see Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Storm, and throw in Banshee cause I want to see him in there for selfish reasons....as for Jason they can have a quick 3 minute scene(or shorter) of him not being able to get help from Prof X and Mags and Striker leaveing all mad and getting in his car at the beginning of the movie and move on from there...

 

[zenith16]

Sigh... need i explain everything.

The X-Men Franchise is very closely tied together so they cant really make a movie where it just doesnt add up.

My theory is this...

There will be a bit of back story, lightly touched upon because they want to explore Xaviers and Magneto's friendship in the Magneto movie... But were talking first class so.

Starts off with Xavier explaining his dream to Magneto and them opening a school, possibly by this point Magneto learns he has children via Magda whom he had thought he lost. However upon trying to find her he finds that some anti-mutant group killed magda and took her children... the childrens wareabouts are unknown and so Xavier builds Cerebro to help his friend track them down.

Elsewhere (Jason 143) Strykers son, had drove his mother to kill herself and Stryker did put him on ice. So thats why he is there during the wolverine movie.

Xavier adventually locates Magneto's Children at 3 mile island with other mutants held captive, knowing that Magneto would take action, in a more peaceful way Xavier goes to rescue them.



End of wolverine scene shows the mutants finding Xavier.

Now think of this, at the time of the end of the wolverine movie, Beast would of been at least working with or for Xavier, and he has connections to the goverment, or a political group. But were talking Pre-Blue beast though. Under the investigation of 3 mile island i would of imagin they would of come across the frozen MUTANTS... there was more than one but Jason was the only visable one. Being a child without a parent because stryker was imprisioned im guessing Beast helped bring the child to Xavier.

Xavier then goes to meet with stryker in prison but warns that his son his mentally ill.

Magneto hates Stryker and wants him dead because of what he did to Magda and it would partly explain why Magneto at the end of x-men 2 tied up stryker so he would die. mostly you believe its because of what he was going to do with all the mutants around the world. But there was a personal level involved with magneto and kidnapping his kids would be a good reason for him to act the way he did in x2.

See Magneto's bitter thoughts and Xaviers peaceful ones collide and we then start to see why Magneto instigated the Brotherhood.

Remember, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch escaped the facility and was found by xavier. chances are were looking at the original brotherhood comming to gether from the comic books. With Jason added as a student, im thinking the social devide between Magneto and Xavier was split when Magneto warped jasons mind with Magnetos idealistic views of mutant superiority. So Magneto with his first brotherhood members, Toad, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch and Jason as Mastermind... side away from Xavier and his vision

Infact Magneto could be the very reason why Xavier realises he needs X-Men, because although Xaviers dream of mutants and humans living together. some may not share this idea and act because of it.

The first x-men would then have to consist of, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Storm and i think we could initialy put in a very young Angel and Iceman... Angel being more around the age of Iceman. or slightly older.

i was calculating the age ratio... see Ben Foster who played angel and Shawn Ashmore who played iceman look around the same age although with Ben he could look slightly older if he had to. So it is reasonable to believe that you have the first x-men team consist of 6 mutants (Cyclops aged 18) (Jean Grey aged 18) (Storm aged 17) (Beast aged 21) (Angel aged 15) (Iceman aged 13)

I don't know I still like the original story that Xavier made the X-Men cause of his encounter with Lucifer and the shadow king and he made it his life's mission to fight all evil human/ mutant /alien it didn't matter to him which side, Xavier wants all of humanity protected not just mutant's but both. And for both to get along peacefully. he made the school to bridge that gap for mutants and humans. This is why I didn't much like the fox movies. They limited the actual purpose to why the X-men were made. That always bugged me.

It would be better if they showed that and Xavier always had the X-Men in mind after he met the shadow king after saving storm as a kid. but the events at the school had him and mags being separated in view was the final straw that set it off in to making them come to be. yeah an FOH would work to a degree too.

BTW I'm sure storms older then both scott and jean here inthe movies as it is in the comic's man. (yes both main marvel and ultimates) but any ways.

 

[danoyse]

Stewart stated that both he and McKellen would like to continue exploring their characters.

http://filmonic.com/patrick-stewart-talks-x-men-and-star-trek-458

That would be great if both of them came back for First Class.

Awesome news about Singer. Wish he'd never left in the first place.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

A few more details from Variety. It seems as they're throwing out Josh Schwartz's script and writing a new one based on a detailed treatment that Singer wrote.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012931.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm

Bryan Singer to direct 'X-Men: First Class'

Director returns to mutant franchise for Fox

By MICHAEL FLEMING

Twentieth Century Fox has set Bryan Singer to direct "X-Men: First Class," returning him to the franchise that began with the first two installments of the mutant series. Lauren Shuler Donner and Simon Kinberg are producers.

Singer had been flirting with the project since last summer (Daily Variety, Aug. 13). Deal was made after the studio sparked to a detailed treatment he wrote for the film. Jamie Moss was hired to write the script, and the studio will move aggressively.

Singer told Daily Variety that he thought long and hard about returning to the franchise he launched until he found a storyline that would stand on its own.

"This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."

In the film, Xavier and Magneto will be twentysomething, and the film sounds similar in construct to the J.J. Abrams-directed "Star Trek."

Whether it's 'Batman,' 'Lord of the Rings' or 'Star Trek,' if the characters are good, you want to see them on their journey even if you know their destiny," Singer said. "I put myself in the fan's position, and I think this story is something I would want to see, and so will they."

Fox has launched the "Origins" project by hiring Josh Schwartz to write the script. Singer went back to the drawing board but feels so in synch with the concept and the writer that he feels the project can come together quickly. The studio is separately developing an origin film on Magneto, another about Deadpool and a sequel to last summer's hit" Wolverine," which Singer said he liked.

Singer hasn't fixed on his next movie, but he is in a holding deal with New Line for "Jack the Giant Killer," which is still working out its conceptual visual development of the giants.

Singer is also attached to direct "Battlestar Galactica" and, after a rights issue was cleared up, he's beginning to develop a remake of "Excalibur."

 

[Ipodman]

Im very excited about this movie....