Sequels X-Men: First Class

[Halcohol]

Well, doi!

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[thegameq]

Excellent, Fox is right on track.

This move is clearly an attempt to revitalize this franchise and milk it to death. Fox can see the writing on the wall for this franchise and is trying to rescue/revitalize it the only (safe) way they know how without rebooting: bring back the director of the first two films and hope he strikes gold again with prequels. That together with Singer's less than stellar outings after he left the franchise...

I think Fox is due for a rude awakening with this franchise and it's properties.

Does anyone truly believe Singer is going to make First Class significantly different from his other X-films? Come on, be honest...

Keep up the good work Fox. Keep grinding away at this franchise until it's exhausted and audiences cease to look at it in a positive light. Especially compared to the better comicbook movie franchises.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Does anyone truly believe Singer is going to make First Class significantly different from his other X-films? Come on, be honest...

If they're the same as his other X-Films (in that they are actually good) then I''ll be happy.

They were milking this franchise way before this announcement considering they announced a bunch of prequels of which Wolverine was a part of ages ago. The fact they basically threw out all the work on this project done by the previous script writer and brought back Singer shows that Fox might realize that they need to have a good movie made before they can milk it to death.

 

[EnDz0n3]

If they're the same as his other X-Films (in that they are actually good) then I''ll be happy.

They were milking this franchise way before this announcement considering they announced a bunch of prequels of which Wolverine was a part of ages ago. The fact they basically threw out all the work on this project done by the previous script writer and brought back Singer shows that Fox might realize that they need to have a good movie made before they can milk it to death.

I couldn't agree with this more! As long as First class is in the same "class" as his excellent X2, then color me happy.

If only Bryan brought with him Dougherty and Harris...

 

[marvelrobbins]

Bryan Singer revived the genre with X-men,and X2 proved you can do a
comic book movie with lots of characters and be good.Both audences and
critics liked his take.Michael Doughary has confirmed they had plans for
more of Cyclops for X3,and before you say he kisses Singer's ass he himself
Is critical of the way Superman Returns turned out.

This Is a case of Rothman realizing If they want to keep making money off
of X-men getting Singer back Is a smart move by them,and It can create
something both the Last Stand and Wolverine didn't have.Postive Buzz.
Fox throw out all the previous work on First Class.

Doing a X-Men film Is tougher than most other top popular Comic book
characters.You have a large bunch of characters and a lot of history.You
have characters who have changed over the past 46 years plus have the
ultimate line also.Doing Spider-Man,Batman or Iron Man Is so much easier.

Fox main concern Is making money not how accurate X-Men fans think the films are.You can have a film closer to X-Men and X2 or another like Last
Stand or Wolverine.It Is a easy answer which way to go.

 

[Iceman]

A Bryan Singer X-Men 3 I was looking forward to a lot. He may not be the best action director, & although he neglects certain characters, X-Men had a ridiculously low budget & X-Men 2 was a good all round film. Hopefully his return after a poor attempt at Superman will mean that he puts everything into a film in which he knows he has the abilities to succeed.

 

[Deaths Head II]

People may keep claiming Singer is not that great at directing action, but I still consider the Nightcrawler vs Secret Service fight to be one of the best action scenes from this decade.

 

[Angamb]

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Fox main concern Is making money not how accurate X-Men fans think the films are.You can have a film closer to X-Men and X2 or another like Last
Stand or Wolverine.It Is a easy answer which way to go.

Fox probably wants X3 numbers, so after seeing Wolverine lower results, they realized that with a Bryan quality movie, they could get back part of X3 audience.

I think they have taken a great decision, signing Bryan again. The movie will have X1/X2 quality, Im sure will love it more than X3, if it has more drama elemenst, and less action or quick pacing.

 

[Iceman]

People may keep claiming Singer is not that great at directing action, but I still consider the Nightcrawler vs Secret Service fight to be one of the best action scenes from this decade.

Agreed, it's easily my favourite scene from any X-Men film. If Bryan gets solid budgetary backing and can make action of this standard throughout a film I'll be very happy. At present though, I believe he still has a bit of convincing to do in this department.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

People may keep claiming Singer is not that great at directing action, but I still consider the Nightcrawler vs Secret Service fight to be one of the best action scenes from this decade.

he's great on one on one action, or one on group.. just not very good at several vs several like a team should be

 

[mr. peasant]

Fox probably wants X3 numbers, so after seeing Wolverine lower results, they realized that with a Bryan quality movie, they could get back part of X3 audience.

I think they have taken a great decision, signing Bryan again. The movie will have X1/X2 quality, Im sure will love it more than X3, if it has more drama elemenst, and less action or quick pacing.

I think part of the reason for the lower Wolverine numbers is because people aren't big fans of derivative work. By this, I'm referring to spin-off movies that feature none or only a few of the original characters (and cast) and strays away from the original chronology (i.e. set after the last movie). Audiences aren't stupid. They realize doing things like this is simply the companies trying to cash in on their franchises while clearly not sticking to the 'original plan'. That's why Wolverine and the American Pie straight-to-DVD's did poorer than their originals. The Star Wars prequel worked because the original trilogy started at Episode IV and so was perceived as part of the plan. It would probably have fared differently if the original had been named Episode I and the prequel called Star Wars: The Early Years or something like such.

 

[Angamb]

yes, that's why I kind of hate the idea of prequels or origin films for the X-men.

This franchise should have continued with X4, not with Wolverine, and now First class.

With X-men: First class, the audience will see it as that you say, another Fox movie to make money.

If they wouldn't have done Wolverine, we had X-men 4 on DVD now.

 

[Iceman]

The X-franchise has lost a bit of momentum with these non-core films but the main thing we need to wrory about is a return to quality. If we get back to basics & a good film is made, then X4 will happen eventually & more chance of it being taken seriously.

 

[X Knight]

The X-franchise has lost a bit of momentum with these non-core films but the main thing we need to wrory about is a return to quality. If we get back to basics & a good film is made, then X4 will happen eventually & more chance of it being taken seriously.

yah.....but the longer they wait to make X4....the likelier the chances that the public will have "moved on" from the X-men franchise....at least the franchise that started with X1.

X3 came out in 2006....so it's almost been 4 years since it came out.....and that's longer than the 3 year gaps between X1 and X2 and X2 and X3.

This is especially true if they plan on doing First Class. If they do First Class first, then do X4.....we're looking at prob a good 6-8 years since X3 came out. Would the public still be interested in a sequel to X3 after such a long hiatus from the "main series?" Especially as X3, while it did make money, was not as critically well-received as X1 and X2.

Also, the chance of X4 happening would prob depend on the success of First Class. If they make First Class, and it only does OK ( like Wolverine ), Fox may take that as a sign that the public is losing interest in the X-franchise. Or, maybe, they are losing interest in all the prequels and spin-off. Fox then has to decide if it's worth it to revisit the main franchise by doing X4.

Likewise.......what if First Class turns out to be a great hit and can spawn its own franchise? Does Fox still want to do X4? Having multiple franchises of the SAME characters going on concurrently might confuse the public or simply cause them to lose interest due to overexposure.

IOW.......the longer Fox waits to make X4....the less likely we are to see X4, imo.

And focusing on prequels like First Class will only push X4 further out into the future....thus decreasing our chances of seeing it.....

 

[Nightmare]

Yeah, I dont really see Fox doing X3, then Wolverine Origins, then Xmen Origins, then coming back and doing X4. People would be be confused for sure.

 

[Electrix]

X-Men 4, as in a continuation from what happened in X3 with the same cast returning, is unlikely.

Assuming everything goes well for Fox they will have a First Class trilogy and a complete Wolverine trilogy. After that I can see them going into the future. 'Days of the Future Past' type stuff.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Yeah, I dont really see Fox doing X3, then Wolverine Origins, then Xmen Origins, then coming back and doing X4. People would be be confused for sure.

I think after a movie called X-Men Origins: Wolverine and a film called X-Men: First Class, I don't think that many people will be confused if they made a new movie that announced it was a sequel. The titles make it clear they're origin films and the audience might assume they are just breaks done to answer questions about the origins of the characters prior to the next sequel.

 

[Cyma]

IOW.......the longer Fox waits to make X4....the less likely we are to see X4, imo.

And focusing on prequels like First Class will only push X4 further out into the future....thus decreasing our chances of seeing it.....

Unless, the prequel or prequels can somehow connect to X4 so instead of losing interest, it makes the audience more excited for an X4, thus more chances of seeing it.

They could take the X-men Evolution approach. Like in one of the X-men prequels, Professor X somehow gets a glimpse of the future and we see not only X3 stuff but bits and pieces of post X3 stuff like Scott being alive now with Emma or something and the younger mutants like Rogue, Bobby, Kitty, Angel all older. Since the original actors would indeed be older when we get a prequel, that’s no problem.

If Sinister really is the villain in the prequel, then he could get involved in a bigger scheme to release Apocalypse(like Mesmero in Evo), a villain much suited to an X4 rather than a prequel where humans might not even be aware of mutants’ existence.

Fox seriously should consider doing something like this to make the prequel not seem pointless and unnecessary. *Sigh* But it's Fox....

 

[mr. peasant]

I think the best bet for X4 would be something along the lines of Indiana Jones 4 with the storyline continuing decades later in a completely new era (e.g. Age of Apocalypse?). And by doing so, there'd be one or two returning cast members (now much older and more experienced) with the rest being mostly new characters.

 

[JP]

Can we stop talking about a movie that's never going to happen in the FIRST CLASS thread?

 

[Nightmare]

Agreed with JP.

 

[Nightmare]

Either way it's not gonna happen anytime soon, so..

 

[BMM]

I can't even believe people want an X-Men 4. I would rather Fox confuse the hell out of people with a reboot, after the current spin-offs, rather than attempt to revisit that mess.

 

[danoyse]

but in all seriousness... ive experienced some of singers personality first hand... and know many others who've dealt with him... and his professional public relations is way different... the guy makes great movies, but personality wise, he's a liar, a creep, and is an attention ****e. So my inferences are based on alot of things i know about the guy, and i feel are pretty accurate, especially since he didn't announce anything he was planning to do for X3 until after fans were already irate.

Like when you repeatedly said he was signed on to do X3, when nearly everyone else here was pointing out that he wasn't? (and no, he wasn't)

I think whatever personal issues you have with Singer are getting in the way of whatever you think of his movies. And that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but I think everyone is else is being totally fair with liking what he did already - and being happy that he's back. I've heard horror stories about the guy too, but I like his movies.

 

[danoyse]

I can't even believe people want an X-Men 4. I would rather Fox confuse the hell out of people with a reboot, after the current spin-offs, rather than attempt to revisit that mess.

I agree. I just finished watching all 3 movies (I got the blu-ray trilogy box set for Christmas ), and I feel like the time to continue that story has really passed. They killed way too many characters to make any sense trying to explain bringing them all back at this point.